Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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if you are correct about PSG pushing it then of course you're right. I doubt that though. I get what you're saying about the source but in my mind that makes it just as likely to be shenanigans as the source adds legitimacy. For one thing, there really is seemingly no advantage for PSG to publicly get this information out.

I'm super skeptical about football journalism though, as you can see!
I understand. It's up to you if you want to take their word as the truth or not. I just wanted to highlight that Loïc Tanzi has never covered any Italian football news at any point in his career, and the furthest he's strayed has been transfer news involving other French teams + Sheikh Jassim's takeover process. In both cases, he basically hasn't strayed too far away from PSG's ownership or France.
 

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Don't worry, I've just PM'd Rasmus on Instagram. I'm sure he'll clear up this nonsense pretty quickly.
I PM'd him too and got this reply

I've been watching, I've been waiting
In the shadows for my time
I've been searching, I've been living
For tomorrow's all my life
In the shadows
In the shadows
I've come to the conclusion that he's either trying to cryptically tell me that he's ready to take the next step and flourish at United, or I PM'd the wrong person.
 

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I understand. It's up to you if you want to take their word as the truth or not. I just wanted to highlight that Loïc Tanzi has never covered any Italian football news at any point in his career, and the furthest he's strayed has been transfer news involving other French teams + Sheikh Jassim's takeover process. In both cases, he basically hasn't strayed too far away from PSG's ownership or France.
I googled him along with "Italian football" and found some stuff

shennanigans mate! :lol:
 

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If Hojlund is off the table then I think we are left with the following choices:

1. Kolo Muani or Vlahovic but i'm sure their clubs will try to take advantage of our desperation and demand high fees for both.

2. We put off the CF chase for another window, divert the funds to get a high quality DM like Caicedo or someone else, and go again next year when Kane could potentially be available and some of the younger lesser known CFs develop further and make themselves known. Liverpool and Manchester City have dominated without out and out CFs before. It can be done with a strong team spine and base and an attacking mindset from all our players.
 

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Who are these other forwards?
Where did I in my original post claim there are other forwards out there?

I'm no scout but let's assume there are no other viable options out there and I still we rather sit out this summer in our pursuit of a forward than be saddled with an onerous price that he's seemingly being touted about.
You raise an interesting thing I've always wondered about. Have there been any notable examples of players who drastically, and I mean seriously, improved their first touch into adulthood? In my mind the Bergkamps and Zidanes of the world always had it.
Some Slight improvements I could recall but yeah not any "major" improvements.

Maybe those who follow youth football with more vigor than I could provide a more satisfying answer.
 

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Can’t see him wanting to go to PSG, he’ll either come to us or stay in Italy for another year. There’s lots of time, he’s only 20
 

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On the bold part.


Salah was born in 1992.

On 2012 Salah was in Basel as 20 year old. In 2 years in Basel till 2014 he played 49 games scoring 9 goals.

How Salah showed more than Hojlund as a 20 year old is completely false.
I didn't mean by the age of 20, I meant he had shown more at the time he signed for Liverpool
 

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Apparently it’s a Tier 1 for PSG he’s the club’s mouthpiece and pretty much the main source for PSG news
Sounds more like a propaganda source, not someone who actually knows what the player might be thinking.
 

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I PM'd him too and got this reply



I've come to the conclusion that he's either trying to cryptically tell me that he's ready to take the next step and flourish at United, or I PM'd the wrong person.
I’d make sure all your windows and doors are locked before you go to bed if i were you!
 

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PSG an easy name for Atalanta to throw out to the press in order to get United to bid higher. Mbappe seemingly another step closer to Madrid and Atalanta is just trying to get United to pay up and wrap the deal up quick.
 

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Sounds more like a propaganda source, not someone who actually knows what the player might be thinking.
He never indicated that the player's preference is to join PSG. All he's said is that United may not be willing to meet Atalanta's fee demands, but that's part and parcel of the negotiation process regardless.
 

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Apparently the caf reckons Daka or Scamacca would be great for us.
Scamacca who was a highly touted Italian youth international and has had a 16 league goal season in Serie A at a similar age and Daka who scored over 50 league goals across two seasons at RB Salzburg before he turned 22 scoring at a higher rate than even Haaland. Talent just doesn't disappear. If we miss out on Hojlund, there are no legitimate targets that I would be spending similar money on and those guys would come in a lot cheaper and be adequate as placeholders until a more long-term target comes on the scene.
 

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Well, if there are really no guaranteed goal scorers then we should not gamble exorbitant amount of money. Strengthen other areas where viable option is present. If at all we want to gamble, and we should, then do with reasonable amount.

Collectively spending upward of £100m on Antony and Hojlund is hardly a smart business.
We just play the season without a proper striker again?
 

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He never indicated that the player's preference is to join PSG. All he's said is that United may not be willing to meet Atalanta's fee demands, but that's part and parcel of the negotiation process regardless.
It felt like from the way the tweet was written he was trying to allude to the idea that Højlund was keen on the move, or at least his agents are. Although to be fair it's a translation and I've no idea how accurately it reflects what he actually wrote in his piece.

And for sure, this pretty much reflects the negotiation process we saw unfold with Mount.
 

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It felt like from the way the tweet was written he was trying to allude to the idea that Højlund was keen on the move, or at least his agents are. Although to be fair it's a translation and I've no idea how accurately it reflects what he actually wrote in his piece.

And for sure, this pretty much reflects the negotiation process we saw unfold with Mount.
You can blame the aggregators for headlining the news like that. The facts are that Campos & PSG have gotten in touch with the player's agent, and they've likely been told that United may not be willing to pay what Atalanta want for Højlund, basically pushing PSG towards paying that €60m + add-ons that Atalanta want.
 

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Wasn't Hojlund huge Man United fan? If he goes to PSG, I guess that was all bollocks then.
 

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Wasn't Hojlund huge Man United fan? If he goes to PSG, I guess that was all bollocks then.
What exactly do you want him to do if his club accepts PSG’s offer and declines us? Stay a diehard United-fan in Atalanta and risking potentially what might be a once in a lifetime contract because we want to spend 5 weeks haggling over €10 million.
 

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What exactly do you want him to do if his club accepts PSG’s offer and declines us? Stay a diehard United-fan in Atalanta and risking potentially what might be a once in a lifetime contract because we want to spend 5 weeks haggling over €10 million.
I mean, from what I have seen this isn't case of PSG offering a lot more money, they offered exact amount Atalanta wanted, 60 million? And from all the sources we offered that plus add on bonuses, so yeah, it is basically up to him if those reports are true.
 

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Pedulla retweeted the below information, which seems to be a English translation from his own piece from a little earlier.

 

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I get what you mean, and in this case, the agent's effectively using PSG partially to hurry us and partially to give Højlund another top option. However, Loïc Tanzi gets his info straight from the club; if he ever gets info from agents, he'd first corroborate that with his sources from PSG. This is different to Romano, for example, who's more likely to report info from a trusted network of agents.
Psg coming in is the best thing for the player and agent, an agent having a club with the pockets of PSG is best case scenario, especially with United on the other side
 

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If Hojlund is off the table then I think we are left with the following choices:

1. Kolo Muani or Vlahovic but i'm sure their clubs will try to take advantage of our desperation and demand high fees for both.

2. We put off the CF chase for another window, divert the funds to get a high quality DM like Caicedo or someone else, and go again next year when Kane could potentially be available and some of the younger lesser known CFs develop further and make themselves known. Liverpool and Manchester City have dominated without out and out CFs before. It can be done with a strong team spine and base and an attacking mindset from all our players.
Erik wants a striker now so option 2 off the table
 

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You raise an interesting thing I've always wondered about. Have there been any notable examples of players who drastically, and I mean seriously, improved their first touch into adulthood? In my mind the Bergkamps and Zidanes of the world always had it.
I feel like every part of Drogba's technique improved a ton over the years, including his touch.
 

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This is what happens when it takes you months to get deals done.
It’s better to get the right deals done rather than just splashing cash immediately and then being held to ransom in future deals. We’re trying to learn from previous mistakes.
 

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You raise an interesting thing I've always wondered about. Have there been any notable examples of players who drastically, and I mean seriously, improved their first touch into adulthood? In my mind the Bergkamps and Zidanes of the world always had it.
You probably hadn’t heard of them till they did. It’s an aspect of the game, any player can realistically improve on any aspect, of course pace there’s only so much one can do but they could still honestly improve on that to a small extent.
 

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Rather he goes to psg to be honest, he's athletic and energetic for sure but there's a lot more out there in making a top of the line forward.

His touch while to be fair is nowhere near lukaku levels of abhorrent is still an area of concern and I doubt any other player has ever improved upon it substantially after his age.
yeah players never improve aspects of their game once they hit 20
 

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With Mbappe leaving imminent, and Kane preferring a move to Bayern, its quite clear PSG would be in needed for new forwards.

I wouldn't be surprise if they are really interested in Hojlund since there is lack of quality/attainable striker in the market right now.
 

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If Hojlund is off the table then I think we are left with the following choices:

1. Kolo Muani or Vlahovic but i'm sure their clubs will try to take advantage of our desperation and demand high fees for both.

2. We put off the CF chase for another window, divert the funds to get a high quality DM like Caicedo or someone else, and go again next year when Kane could potentially be available and some of the younger lesser known CFs develop further and make themselves known. Liverpool and Manchester City have dominated without out and out CFs before. It can be done with a strong team spine and base and an attacking mindset from all our players.
Or we could just start with Rashford in the middle; Sancho as a false 9 or the ol' Faithful, Antony Martial and in parallel get Greenwood up to speed as soon as possible.
 

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Or we could just start with Rashford in the middle; Sancho as a false 9 or the ol' Faithful, Antony Martial and in parallel get Greenwood up to speed as soon as possible.
Any plan with Sancho and Martial in it, is a bad one.
 

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Or we could just start with Rashford in the middle; Sancho as a false 9 or the ol' Faithful, Antony Martial and in parallel get Greenwood up to speed as soon as possible.
Sancho as a false 9 is a walking disaster waiting happen. He will offer less than nothing with his friendly match intensity. No thanks.

Don't even want to consider Martial as an option. If busted flush was a player it would be him. He gave up on football a while ago. If he were to stay fit for a season however, He would offer next to no goal threat but at least his hold up and build up play would be good.

Rashford is probably the best option but it takes so much away from his game and makes him a lot less threatening compared to wide left. We'd have to hope Garnacho can replicate that wide left threat.

Club still haven't made a decision on Greenwood but if he's near what he was when he left then that would be a huge re-addition in terms of goal threat and just general quality and may end our need for a striker if he were to kick on from where he left off even with abuse and vitriol going to be coming from all angles.
 
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