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Mejbri is the same age as him. Played similar games, international etc. Yet we can say Mejbri is not ready for the first team and he needs time to develop. But with Hojlund he should be a first teamer and have all the time to develop. Makes sense

You have to be kidding me with this comparison.
We have players who can play ahead of Mejbri, we don't have players who can play ahead of Hojlund.

Hojlund shouldn't be first choice for United at this stage of his career but he is, we as fans cannot change that
 
You have to be kidding me with this comparison.
We have players who can play ahead of Mejbri, we don't have players who can play ahead of Hojlund.

Hojlund shouldn't be first choice for United at this stage of his career but he is, we as fans cannot change that
Well exactly my point. He shouldn't be first choice. But Ten Haags says he's ready. So we should judge him on that fact and not say he needs time and he's too young. Same if Mejbri becomes first teamer. If he does then he's ready and be judged as such. You cant have both
 
Well exactly my point. He shouldn't be first choice. But Ten Haags says he's ready. So we should judge him on that fact and not say he needs time and he's too young. Same if Mejbri becomes first teamer. If he does then he's ready and be judged as such. You cant have both

You've lost the plot
 
Maybe. But I'm not the one who is saying he's not ready and yet Ten Haag spent 75 mill on him and says he is

So we're going to ignore the manager wanted Kane then...
Do you think the manager should have said Hojlund isn't ready after the club bought him and he was the only no 9 we had?

Its ok for you to take this stance with a view to pinning failure on the manager, but its silly.

Fact is the club didn't get what the manager wanted and the manager has to give his no 9 confidence. I also believe the player has all the tools to be a top striker but he is going to need both time and confidence and belief of the manager
 
So we're going to ignore the manager wanted Kane then...
Do you think the manager should have said Hojlund isn't ready after the club bought him and he was the only no 9 we had?

Its ok for you to take this stance with a view to pinning failure on the manager, but its silly.

Fact is the club didn't get what the manager wanted and the manager has to give his no 9 confidence. I also believe the player has all the tools to be a top striker but he is going to need both time and confidence and belief of the manager
Ten Haag has repeatedly said all transfer decisions are between him and Murtough. Ten Haag wanted Hojlund. If he thought that Hojlund will need 2/3 years then he should have vetoed the signing. Thats his job. He takes responsibility for the team and the players and the transfers. If I'm silly for believing in Ten Haag then I guess I'm silly. There is 0 proof that they wanted Kane. None. Zero. Nada
 
Ten Haag has repeatedly said all transfer decisions are between him and Murtough. Ten Haag wanted Hojlund. If he thought that Hojlund will need 2/3 years then he should have vetoed the signing. Thats his job. He takes responsibility for the team and the players. And I'm silly for thinking the manager should take responsibility for the players?

I never said he didn't want Hojlund, I said he wanted Kane.
You are silly for thinking the manager is solely responsible here, you're also silly if you think the manager is saying Hojlund should be treated like a world class striker today
 
I never said he didn't want Hojlund, I said he wanted Kane.
You are silly for thinking the manager is solely responsible here, you're also silly if you think the manager is saying Hojlund should be treated like a world class striker today
No one said anything about world class. We are talking about first team level that will contribute to trophies/top 4/getting closer to City this year and beyond the next few years. Thats our targets. No one said he was solely responsible either. Its between him and Murtough. How do I know? Because Ten Haag said so. So yes he takes some responsibility. I'm just telling you facts and you are repeating false stories like he wanted Kane. There is no proof of that unless your proof is Mark Goldbridge who heard it from Ten Haag directly
 
Obviously not unless you think we are Villa or Spurs etc. We are Man Utd. You come into the first team and you are have to perform. Sure players have been known to take a while to settle but then they are not first teamers until they perform. Hojlund should be judged on the fact that he is our first choice striker. Excuses like he's young doesn't matter

So you can play in the first team without being a first teamer?
 
Obviously not unless you think we are Villa or Spurs etc. We are Man Utd. You come into the first team and you are have to perform. Sure players have been known to take a while to settle but then they are not first teamers until they perform. Hojlund should be judged on the fact that he is our first choice striker. Excuses like he's young doesn't matter
But they are true. We bought a player who is not the finished article. However he is also our first choice CF over Martial and Rashford.

He’s is quite literally our starting CF. Your opinions don’t change that fact. He’s also 20 and hasn’t played a huge amount of senior football. Your opinions don’t change that.

If you want to have unreasonable expectations, go ahead. But don’t be all pissy about them.
 
But they are true. We bought a player who is not the finished article. However he is also our first choice CF over Martial and Rashford.

He’s is quite literally our starting CF. Your opinions don’t change that fact. He’s also 20 and hasn’t played a huge amount of senior football. Your opinions don’t change that.

If you want to have unreasonable expectations, go ahead. But don’t be all pissy about them.
If I have unreasonable expectations then so does Ten Haag and his staff and the board. They decided this. Not me
 
No one said anything about world class. We are talking about first team level that will contribute to trophies/top 4/getting closer to City this year and beyond the next few years. Thats our targets. No one said he was solely responsible either. Its between him and Murtough. How do I know? Because Ten Haag said so. So yes he takes some responsibility. I'm just telling you facts and you are repeating false stories like he wanted Kane. There is no proof of that unless your proof is Mark Goldbridge who heard it from Ten Haag directly

Key words here.
He is obviously good enough to be our lead striker at the moment, unless you think Martial is better?
He has potential to be top class in a couple of years
Ten Hag also said Maguire is good enough, McTominay is good enough and also Ronaldo was too.
 
If I have unreasonable expectations then so does Ten Haag and his staff and the board. They decided this. Not me
You do understand that there were external influences that contributed to us buying him?
 
hes been lively in his couple of games coming back from injury, got one goal, had another chalked off from rashford going out of play that was actually a nifty little shift of feet from hojlund, and is making good runs we havent seen from our CFs in a while. Im fine with what he has done so far. All of this while antony been gone, injuries rocking our squad, and there being very little fluidity in the games in which he has been playing.
 
Key words here.
He is obviously good enough to be our lead striker at the moment, unless you think Martial is better?
He has potential to be top class in a couple of years
Ten Hag also said Maguire is good enough, McTominay is good enough and also Ronaldo was too.
So you agree with what i said at the beginning. Lets judge him on the fact that he is our lead striker and not keep saying he's too young and needs time etc. Either he's our lead striker or not. Saying both is an oxymoron
 
I know it’s only early for him but I expect to see more within the next few months. Especially as the performances and team start getting better. The other players aren’t spotting his runs as of yet but I’m sure that understanding will come. He’s rapid but we’re yet to see his full pace. He’ll get a few scrappy goals as he seems like the type of ST that loves making runs into the box and being in the right place at the right time.
 
So as i said at the beginning. Lets judge him on the fact that he is our lead striker and not keep saying he's too young and needs time etc. Either he's our lead striker or not

First of all this is silly.
Any new player we sign gets some amount of time to adjust to a new league etc.
Secondly when people are saying he is young and need time, they are talking about him turning into a top level striker which he isn't right now.

United is not challenging for the title this season or the UCL, but we eventually will want to do so, and Hojlund needs time before he judged by THAT particular standard
 
First of all this is silly.
Any new player we sign gets some amount of time to adjust to a new league etc.
Secondly when people are saying he is young and need time, they are talking about him turning into a top level striker which he isn't right now.

United is not challenging for the title this season or the UCL, but we eventually will want to do so, and Hojlund needs time before he judged by THAT particular standard
So being a lead striker for the biggest club aiming for top four and trophies is not a top level striker?
 
If you beat beat team will Weghorst and half fit Martial last season, Hoijund is already an upgrade. I think this season he will score less than 20 goals, he will get better with age. As long as he is fit, he starts so there is no question about it. If we are lucky, he could be a productive in 3 years time. Let's hope.
 
You do realize they spent 75 mill on him, made him first choice and repeatedly said he is good enough
He was 64 million and there wasn't many options out there for our price range, what do you think they're going to say? I'm sure Ten Hag would also say that he's young and can improve.
 
So being a lead striker for the biggest club aiming for top four and trophies is not a top level striker?
Obviously, he wont be a literal "top level" striker. He's a kid who we have bought for "potential", and because we really needed striker. If he actually becomes a top level striker ? who knows.
 
So being a lead striker for the biggest club aiming for top four and trophies is not a top level striker?

No a top level striker is trying to win the PL and UCL which is where we aspire to be
 
I haven't caught the past few games, has he been that bad? Or is everyone here whiners because we haven't had a stellar start to the season?

He def had an influence in the game against Arsenal. The highlights against Brighton look pretty good. There was maybe one incorrect / poor action he took amongst all of this touches. The crowd was booing when he was replaced by Martial etc. He also scored against Bayern.

 
I haven't caught the past few games, has he been that bad? Or is everyone here whiners because we haven't had a stellar start to the season?

He def had an influence in the game against Arsenal. The highlights against Brighton look pretty good. There was maybe one incorrect / poor action he took amongst all of this touches. The crowd was booing when he was replaced by Martial etc. He also scored against Bayern.



It's hard to judge him so far. His workrate, height and speed will be useful for high pressing system.
He's definitely a handful for defenders.

I played as a defender and wouldn't like to mark him.

It's difficult to know how good his technical ability is yet in terms of finishing, touch, holdup play, dribbling, passing etc.

I've a feeling he's a little lacking in these areas. But when you've height, speed and strength you can compensate for other deficiencies.
 
He is not ready as a lead striker for a club like Man Utd. He needs time to develop especially coming from other league at his age.

Having said that I don't think we have a choice here. He is the best striker available and attainable for us.

We are skint and can't sign an established top striker which costs a bomb. Remember, we even struggled to get Amrabat over the line in the fecking loan deal in the transfer window.

We don't have a choice but to support him. Hope he can develop fast and establish himself as of of the top striker in PL sooner rather than later.
 
Yes and they will also be aware that he isn’t the finished product. Unlike you they understand football and player progression .
No one said he is the finished product. Heck we are still waiting for Martial to come good. But he is still deemed good enough right now to be leadd striker. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
So you agree with what i said at the beginning. Lets judge him on the fact that he is our lead striker and not keep saying he's too young and needs time etc. Either he's our lead striker or not. Saying both is an oxymoron

A main #9 for United should be a world class 30 goals a season top scorer.

We simply do not have/could not buy anyone of that calibre so here we're. If we have to play a 20 yo kid as our main #9 then you should blame the board not that 20 yo kid. It's the same as you think you should drive a Ferrari but only could afford a Toyota. You should blame yourself for being delusional and having no money not the poor Toyota imho.
 
Players like Hojlund, Garnacho, Hannibal and Mainoo...just leave them alone!

Bruno, Casemiro and Rashford are the one who should carry the burden of results.

Let Hojund get to know the league and while he does that, fans can enjoy watching him develop.
 
A main #9 for United should be a world class 30 goals a season top scorer.

We simply do not have/could not buy anyone of that calibre so here we're. If we have to play a 20 yo kid as our main #9 then you should blame the board not that 20 yo kid. It's the same as you think you should drive a Ferrari but only could afford a Toyota. You should blame yourself for being delusional and having no money not the poor Toyota imho.
At no point did I blame Hojlund.
 
No one said he is the finished product. Heck we are still waiting for Martial to come good. But he is still deemed good enough right now to be leadd striker. Why is that so hard to understand?
You and I quote “Saying he's our first choice striker and at the same time saying he's young and needs time is an oxymoron.” Yet now you’re saying he’s not the finished product. If he isn’t the finished product isn’t he by design someone who needs time?
 
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