Thom Merrilin
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Says that Ineos would have sporting control immediately. WowAthletic article here: https://archive.ph/nuH5i
Says that Ineos would have sporting control immediately. WowAthletic article here: https://archive.ph/nuH5i
Some of them wanted a full sale but Joel and Avram did not and that has been reported all along. SJR has been forced to reduce percentage he is taking whilst still putting up a similar amount of capital from his original bid.So the Glazers strung along the sheikhs in order to bait their real target, Ratcliffe? I remember this theory being brought up as a joke because people were saying the opposite and that Sir Jim was being used to get a bigger offer, he should just walk away, qatar will just blow him out of the water etc
Im not lashing out, I’m amused by your gullibility, and everything I’ve stated is objectively true.You're deluded and lashing out. Jassim love united?! Ok...he wasn't a front for a Qatari sports washing operation then. Sure. Loving your insults though...kee em coming. It's hilarious.
He's a man of many talents and even more names. Jim Ratcliffe, Jimmy Brexit, Jim Glazer, The Rat, Ratterz, Jimbo, Mr Chelsea, Jim Radcliffe, Captain Barce, Dave down the pub and many more.The same opposition fans high five one another one forums when one of them says "VARchetser United have always had refs in their pocket." Opposition fans know feck all about the club.
For the folk saying that this is the worst possible outcome; nope, that would be the Glazers still holding complete ownership of the club.
We have folk, as we always do, jumping immediately to the worst case scenario to stir up drama. Why would a guy in his 70s offer to buy 25% of the club if that's all he's interested in? He's going to demand sporting control, he's going to want the club to compete for honours. He's not Avram and Joel Glazer, happy to collect dividends just as long as the sponsorship money doesn't dry up, with zero business acumen because Dad did all the work.
When Wumminator is happy, you know you're on the wrong end of the decisionYep. When the opposition fans are happy, you know we are fecked.
Why would a minority stakeholder get sporting control?Athletic article here: https://archive.ph/nuH5i
Because it is full of drama queens.It's 25% with a route to full ownership. Why does everyone ignore that part?
United's Brexit moment.Because it is full of drama queens.
. . .Can we just stop with the ridiculous hyperbole?
We will continue to fight for the soul of the club.
It's already better. 25% better to be exact.United's Brexit moment.
It'll be bettter.. eventually.
You might be dead at that point but eventually...
Desperate for the Glazers to go, 100%. Not a fan of state ownership personally.Hahahahaha.
Who's prepared to get themselves arrested and have their careers ruined because they're desperate for state ownership?
You see this is what happens when you don't really stand for anything other than a potentially quicker route to success.
People aren't really prepared to do anything when your movement doesn't really stand for anything meaningful.
Anyone who still thinks Ratcliffe is just giving money to the glazers to help them stay are either simply ignorant, or a WUM with an obvious agenda.Says that Ineos would have sporting control immediately. Wow
Because fans want the Glazers gone now and not maybe in 3 years, key word being maybeBecause it is full of drama queens.
The Glazers are still here and aren't going anywhere. I'd take a 100% debt free buy out by Ratcliffe any day of the week but that isn't what we've got. Besides which wanting success and having the ability to deliver it are two very different things. Ratcliffe won't have control of the club, doesn't have the funds to clear the debt or invest in the stadium and training ground and even if he did hasn't shown he has the ability to run a club in a way that can deliver success.The same opposition fans high five one another one forums when one of them says "VARchetser United have always had refs in their pocket." Opposition fans know feck all about the club.
For the folk saying that this is the worst possible outcome; nope, that would be the Glazers still holding complete ownership of the club.
We have folk, as we always do, jumping immediately to the worst case scenario to stir up drama. Why would a guy in his 70s offer to buy 25% of the club if that's all he's interested in? He's going to demand sporting control, he's going to want full ownership in the long term, he's going to want the club to compete for honours. He's not Avram and Joel Glazer, happy to collect dividends just as long as the sponsorship money doesn't dry up, with zero business acumen because Dad did all the work.
Very few people could outright buy the club without saddling more debt on to us. Just because some Sheikh waved his wallet at the club and said he'd build us a new stadium on the moon doesn't make Jim Ratcliffe as bad as the Glazers. Have you forgotten how shite the Glazers actually are?!
I’m currently dating a HR professional with a route to dating Margot Robbie. . . means about as much as Ratcliffe wanting full ownership unless it’s written into any deal.It's 25% with a route to full ownership. Why does everyone ignore that part?
Probably rather than maybe as of now. TBC of courseBecause fans want the Glazers gone now and not maybe in 3 years, key word being maybe
that never really appeared to be on the table with Jim.I would have preferred Ratcliff , but an outright buy, not this.
The next week will be really interesting. I can't wait for the INEOS statement, to be honest.The Athletic article is a good read. As ever the devil will be in the details. Once Ratcliffe can speak publicly (after the board ratify?) we should be able to see the exact terms and conditions, and hopefully the timeframe for buying majority control.
We don't know anything at the moment.
Well, no. Propping the Glazers up for another 5+ years or indefinitely is by far a worse outcome than even no outcome.For the folk saying that this is the worst possible outcome; nope, that would be the Glazers still holding complete ownership of the club.
I hate to break it to you but Brexit is never getting better, and most likely neither will Ratcliffe taking over.United's Brexit moment.
It'll be bettter.. eventually.
You might be dead at that point but eventually...
Because a route to full ownership is likely more Glazer bullshit. Like they have fed the fans for years to pacify them.It's 25% with a route to full ownership. Why does everyone ignore that part?
Very common no? Same way the Glazers got control of United.Because a route to full ownership is likely more Glazer bullshit. Like they have fed the fans for years to pacify them.
If they were willing to give up full ownership, why not do it now?
Fans on average are pretty stupid and can't think rationally when it comes to this. Now would be better. Partial takeover with the path to full within 3 years is still a huge step and a big win. It's the takeover of one of the biggest sporting brands in the world. It's gonna take time.Because fans want the Glazers gone now and not maybe in 3 years, key word being maybe
Every year that goes by without us rectifying the years of neglect and gross mismanagement the club gets further away from sporting excellence. Ratcliffe being in situ with the scum will be the worst possible start and quite clearly not the clean break I am sure everyone was hoping for, fans, players, staff. Whether he will actually wipe the debt, invest in state of the art stadium and training ground, appoint people with the absolute relevant expertise and experience in positions of authority and compete in the market is anyone's guess. I don't know what "put the Manchester back in Manchester United" means. But I do know what investing 1-1.5B sterling in infrastructure means. Of course Jassim is an unknown so we don't know if he would have professionalised the club, but we know Ratcliffe hasn't done that at Nice.Not sure why. Aren't ineos very successful across their sporting endeavors? May not be a roaring success in football yet, but it's not about instant success. It's about setting up for future improvement over time which seems to be his path.
Yeah, it’s been a constant with Utd since SAF’s retirement -Yep. When the opposition fans are happy, you know we are fecked.
That was my point. It's complete bollocks.I hate to break it to you but Brexit is never getting better, and most likely neither will Ratcliffe taking over.
Is it maybe? I've seen reports that say Ineos will gt full ownership. This is from the Athletic article:Because fans want the Glazers gone now and not maybe in 3 years, key word being maybe
Not directly related to the point but worth pointing out that most of the people who campaigned for Brexit would be quite happy to sell most of our sporting and cultural institutions to foreign states.I hate to break it to you but Brexit is never getting better, and most likely neither will Ratcliffe taking over.
To a number of fans watching United be bad is proof of how much of a fan they are after years of success, it’s some perverse martyrdom. Clubs huge & outspends 99.9% of the football world already but that Qatari cash would be a step too far.To the fans celebrating Ratcliffe's success, you are celebrating the demise of our club. There is reason you are joined by the fans of every other club in the country.