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So we should be starting Martial ... seriously??He should be coming off the bench in the PL.
So we should be starting Martial ... seriously??He should be coming off the bench in the PL.
How many 20 year old clinical strikers at this level are there?So far he's a stronger, quicker Weghorst. He is the most useful option we have up front at the moment but some are going overboard with the hype. I don't see a clinical striker here.
For realSo far he's a stronger, quicker Weghorst. He is the most useful option we have up front at the moment but some are going overboard with the hype. I don't see a clinical striker here.
The reality for a lot of ETH signings, Malacia, Antony, Hojlund all find the PL,Agree, nowhere near good enough. Don't want to sound harsh but he's got big expectations. Has to start scoring.
No we should have bought an elite striker like Ivan Toney and not wasted £85m on Antony when Sancho, Amad and Pellistri were all at the club.So we should be starting Martial ... seriously??
No we should have bought an elite striker like Ivan Toney and not wasted £85m on Antony when Sancho, Amad and Pellistri were all at the club
So we should be starting Martial ... seriously??
Toney is not Elite by any stretch of imagination to be honest good Striker that's about it and I don't see him moving needle for United in slightest with kind of Horrendous football we play either .The reality for a lot of ETH signings, Malacia, Antony, Hojlund all find the PL,
No we should have bought an elite striker like Ivan Toney and not wasted £85m on Antony when Sancho, Amad and Pellistri were all at the club.
He did what he could and I believe he was quite good actually. Was surprised to see him subbed off.
We needed someone to hold the ball up better and be more involved. For all his faults, that’s one of Martial’s strengths and it isn’t, yet, one of Hojlund’s.
I would start to rotate them more than we have seen so far. Hojlund to start in the week and I’d then bring Martial in for the City game. If we are still in it at 60 minutes, Hojlund would be a good option to throw in.
You've been a hater from the start, no point in even trying to deny it...
Same here, thought he was our most dangerous player in the 2nd half. First half he was invisible because the players treated the ball like a hot potato. We created nothing for himHe did what he could and I believe he was quite good actually. Was surprised to see him subbed off.
Am I the only who sees Hojlund actually holding the ball up and passing it on to his team mates?
People are out of their minds criticising him
Also I can't wrap my head around the logic of "should've spent the money on a more established older striker". Our squad is a mess. Our club is a mess. It is far better to buy a younger CF who can grow and develop with the team so that we can hopefully pull our shit together in time for him actually peaking. As it is - he is very far from any sort of problem for us, he's a very good player and actually quite impressive in what he's shown.
What the hell do people think we would achieve signing a 30 year old like Kane? Our defence would be a disaster still. We wouldn't be close to the title still. Only we'd be stuck in a spot where we threw 100m on a declining asset. Similar to the Casemiro situation, even if I think that one is slightly different but the point stands. Every single signing we make should be geared at aiming to step up as a club and start challenging for honors a few years from now. Because realistically that's where we are at.
Same here. I really like him and think he'll be very good. He has no service at all and the team is basically a mess atm.Absolutely fine, exciting talent, like what iv seen so far, good signing
Rashford's pass was the issue there, there was plenty of space to pass into for Hojlund to run onto the ball, instead he hits a pass to where Hojlund is standing with too much force.I like him alot and he is feeding on scraps, I think he should've done better with ball that Rashford intercepted either by moving bit further to pull the defenders away from Rashford instead of demanding the pass in his spot which was predictable
He scored goals, offers pace and physicality and right now has a huge chip on his shoulder and a massive point to prove, when he’s scoring 20 goals for Arsenal or Chelsea next season and maybe 10-12 for the second half of this one, then tell me he’s not a huge upgrade on what we currently have, stop living in the past, Lewandowski, G Ramos, Haaland, Kane, Osimhen all turned us down we now have to operate at the tier below and then turn them into Elite?Toney is not Elite by any stretch of imagination to be honest good Striker that's about it and I don't see him moving needle for United in slightest with kind of Horrendous football we play either .
Exactly that, he was prepared to see out his last 12 months and move which was a perfect scenario for us.Same way we shouldn't be spending 60m on Mount when we need an elite 8. We really like shooting ourselves on the foot.
There is a time and place for every transfer. That is where Dof steps up (in other clubs). With some transfers you look short term and with some you look at long term. When you already have good striker in team then you can buy someone like Hojlund. But if you don't have a first choice striker and your biggest issue are striker's goals then you go and buy proven striker.People are out of their minds criticising him
Also I can't wrap my head around the logic of "should've spent the money on a more established older striker". Our squad is a mess. Our club is a mess. It is far better to buy a younger CF who can grow and develop with the team so that we can hopefully pull our shit together in time for him actually peaking. As it is - he is very far from any sort of problem for us, he's a very good player and actually quite impressive in what he's shown.
What the hell do people think we would achieve signing a 30 year old like Kane? Our defence would be a disaster still. We wouldn't be close to the title still. Only we'd be stuck in a spot where we threw 100m on a declining asset. Similar to the Casemiro situation, even if I think that one is slightly different but the point stands. Every single signing we make should be geared at aiming to step up as a club and start challenging for honors a few years from now. Because realistically that's where we are at.
Get back to me when he actually does that we can talk then .He scored goals, offers pace and physicality and right now has a huge chip on his shoulder and a massive point to prove, when he’s scoring 20 goals for Arsenal or Chelsea next season and maybe 10-12 for the second half of this one, then tell me he’s not a huge upgrade on what we currently have, stop living in the past, Lewandowski, G Ramos, Haaland, Kane, Osimhen all turned us down we now have to operate at the tier below and then turn them into Elite?
There is a time and place for every transfer. That is where Dof steps up (in other clubs). With some transfers you look short term and with some you look at long term. When you already have good striker in team then you can buy someone like Hojlund. But if you don't have a first choice striker and your biggest issue are striker's goals then you go and buy proven striker.
We are not Brighton, club whos season does not depend on CL football and trophies.
Yes, in a long term Hojlund will be good because his potential is huge but in a short term he wasn't a right choice. Which our results and his contribution are showing so far.
Regarding Casemiro; we didn't had any dmc in team. We went for older but proven one. Result is that we are playing CL this year and have one more trophy in a cabinet. That is prime example of good short term transfer.
Kane would have been better this year no question. We wouldn't have been close to the title anyway. Which is the point. Spending big on a player who will decline before you as a team are ready to step up is dumb as feck and the reason we are in this mess. It's a mistake we have repeatedly made. It is the reason for a constant rebuild. Buy a younger star if you acknowledge you aren't close, commit to some rough periods but work through it and you'll develop a much stronger group.The points you're making seem to only prove why going for a young unproven striker was a mistake. If every other part of the team is dysfunctional, bringing in someone who is still learning the ropes means it's going to be twice as hard for them to settle and contribute. This is where you need someone who is more capable of making things happen on their own. At this point, in fact, it would be preferable to bring in players who have leadership qualities aside from football experience. Hojlund has neither at the moment and this makes his addition a net negative even if he might be a good player with potential. The money that was spent on Mount and Hojlund could have brought in a genuine world-class finished article striker who would immediately improve those around him like Rashford and Antony. Kane could have been that guy. At a lower level, so too would have Kolo Muani, Goncalo Ramos, or Osimhen. Of all the strikers that were available, Hojlund offers the least to this team, which is no fault of his as he's younger than the rest.