No we dont. Liverpool and City only settled on managers when they won major titles.
Bayern, Real and Barca the same.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Bayern, Real and Barca the same.
Feels like the beginning of the end.
Of the team tonight only 4 played under a previous manager, the idea that they're deliberately shit to screw the manager is absurd. Most of them aren't anywhere near good enough, including some that Ten Hag signed, and as a whole they're clearly not being properly coached because they go out with no clue of what they're supposed to be doing.
As long as the results stabilise to some extent and performances improve a bit then he probably deserves a chance to work as just a head coach rather than having so much else to do (whether by choice or not) under a better structure but he's been absolutely shit this season regardless of the culture and structures in place and things do need to start trending upwards.
Don’t worry, lads. Apparently, when Lisandro Martinez and Luke Shaw return, Ten Hag will turn us into prime Real Madrid overnight. It's the injuries, alright? If we didn't have them, we'd be able to defeat Newcastle B team at home.
Truly delusional.
Truly delusional.
Criticism has gone overboard now. A charlatan. A bluffer. A Pardew.
I've got serious doubts about his courage to do what needs to be done, but I am relieved that he benched Bruno and Rashford for two players more deserving of a place in the first XI. He has been massively let down by Dalot in this first half and he's having to field the centre back pairing of Lindelof and Maguire which obviously negates any chance of a high line or mobility in recovering ground for their counters.
I've got serious doubts about his courage to do what needs to be done, but I am relieved that he benched Bruno and Rashford for two players more deserving of a place in the first XI. He has been massively let down by Dalot in this first half and he's having to field the centre back pairing of Lindelof and Maguire which obviously negates any chance of a high line or mobility in recovering ground for their counters.
For all the talk of it's the players letting him down again, only 4 in our starting 11 were here before him. The rest he either signed or promoted. Plus, he chose to keep faith in Dalot despite always being terrible.
In fact, some of our worst performers are his signings.
In fact, some of our worst performers are his signings.
He isn't. No top club would hire him. He will end up back at Ajax. (Apologies to Ajax fans for saying their not a top level club).
Except from city and Liverpool, who have had their managers for 7 and 8 years each, backing them after initial dodgy periods. Hasn’t worked out badly for them.
Casemiro was brilliant last year, don't rewrite that.
But he has pissed home off the comments about not being able to play like Ajax. I don't feel like there's anything to believe in now.
But he has pissed home off the comments about not being able to play like Ajax. I don't feel like there's anything to believe in now.
He's played an active part in the shitshow.
I agree, but as a serious club, how many more home defeats like City at the weekend, tonight or even Liverpool last season will it take to say it's not working? and not all to ETH's fault of course there are an abundance of other factors, but it's a results business and by that metric he's failing miserably.
Antony's felt like the headline failure, but Mount especially just struck me as such a lazy signing. Finding value in the market isn't always easy but a manager in need of genuine spark or creativity with decent money at their disposal needs to be doing much better than that. Like the type of signing you make on a half-arsed FIFA or FM save when you can't be bothered and just plop for the first half-decent option who might be okay.
If he can find another one team league where he can massively outspend everyone and have a once in a generation set of youngsters come through he’ll be grand.
Poor Ten Hag. We've dragged him to our level.
Or alternatively he's spent £400m lining the squad with deadwood to make us even worse than we started off with.
You stick with a manager when there is clear progression and improvement. You don't stick with a manager when the team is going backwards after spending hundreds of millions of pounds.
Its felt like that since pre season
Erik ten De Boers
I thought he made some bad decisions on Sunday, and i haven’t yet seen what it is he’s trying to do. He isn’t blameless. That doesn’t mean I want him sacked though.So basically a little bit everything except Ten Hag.
I don’t disagree that these players will do it with every manager BUT that doesn’t mean we should turn a blind eye to the fact that his signings have largely been crap, his team selections and subs in particular lately have been all wrong and the players, with the best part of 7 months left of football, are throwing him under the bus. Do we let him stay, finish mid table and then what happens in the summer? We aren’t clearing out the majority of the squad and also I don’t trust his judgement on purchases!
The club is rotten top to bottom but as long as the Glazers are here, the best we can hope for is “the new manager bounce”
The club is rotten top to bottom but as long as the Glazers are here, the best we can hope for is “the new manager bounce”
Why does he never complain about the refereeing? Go and shout at the useless cnut. You can shout at our soft, sloppy defenders and midfielders while you're at it.
Thanks for the laughs
Ten Hag isn’t good enough but he isn’t the problem.
You can all hope for a new manager in the morning and sure, we might win a few matches with new manager bounce so you get your short term endorphin hit.
But things will just go back to how they’ve been since 2013 after a few months. Rinse repeat.
The entire club needs a reset and it needed it yesterday.
You can all hope for a new manager in the morning and sure, we might win a few matches with new manager bounce so you get your short term endorphin hit.
But things will just go back to how they’ve been since 2013 after a few months. Rinse repeat.
The entire club needs a reset and it needed it yesterday.
How many of those are run like a complete circus?
No manager can ultimately dismiss an entire dressing room though. Like it or not lots of these players will be at the club for at least a couple of years to come. And no manager can survive a toxic dressing room or dreadful results forever. Major question is whether ETH is just a strong coach struggling to adapt or a genuinely world-class manager with the character and vision to overhaul the culture of the club and the playing squad while keeping things steady for the next season of two, all evidence thus far suggests the former is much more likely the case than the latter.
More like their C team
Yet you haven't blamed him one bit in these last few posts. Your argument for keeping him is "We can't sack more managers". We absolutely can and we will.
He’s not a top coach at all.
I've lost all faith in him now, he needs to go, along with the whole team. Back to square one again.
You think we’ll beat Luton at home the way it’s going?
Not sure there is any manager in the world that could thrive under our ownership and culture. For what it's worth, I think Ten Hag is very good manager. He's proven that elsewhere. However he's not a director of football and shouldn't be making key recruitment decisions. Don't think he has an eye for talent in the way SAF did. Ultimately the players we have just aren't good enough.
I don’t know he wouldn’t have spent 90m on Antony and 60m on a Bruno backup in Mount. It’s ETH’s main problem for me his transfers have been ridiculously bad.
On our last 37 games with have a goal difference of 0 by the way.
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He looks completely out of his depth but this squad is absolutely shit. The whole club needs to be gutted on and off the pitch.
We have created virtually nothing at home this half and v City. Our attack is embarrassingly bad.
The Spanish ones are both backroom circuses.
All 5 club hierarchies would be days or weeks or maybe even minutes from sacking ETH with this rate of decline.
Erik signed 10 of the playing squad today and has given big new contracts to another 3 of them.
Glazers fault we still don’t have a style of play 18 months down the line
Think that a one way trip to amsterdam might be in order.
Back to Ajax for you Mr. Hag.
Back to Ajax for you Mr. Hag.
I know understand what the Blackburn fans felt when they had Steve Kean as their manager.. feck me.. this is the lower than I would have ever imagined.. a team incapable of playing football at all..
feck right off.
feck right off.
Because I don’t think he’s among the largest reasons for our poor season. How can he be when those 4 factors are having a direct impact on results?
The two greatest managers of this generation, both of whom had already proven themselves at the top level. Try again.
Can we stay away from dutch managers, cheers.