It’s amusing to see him being blamed because we just pin things down to one individual. Btw we were the better team in the 1st half last year and far more impressive than yesterday. Second half was some voodoo magic that saw the entire team collapse - a freak result where every shot seemed to go in. It’s like saying we won’t today because of Mcotminay or Antony. Nonsense.
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Like all those away games against top 8 opposition where Bruno played and was so damn influential .
We had a season-low shots on goal yesterday, wtf are you talking about?What the feck?Not a very bright fella, are you?
Since you need things simplified to you: We were more dangerous against a better team without Bruno than we were against a poor team with Bruno.
If our attackers had been better, the result would've been a win today. That would not have been the case against Bournemouth.
It’s also hilarious that you are now using the excuse of our attackers being useless yesterday when you have pretty much ridiculed this notion in regards to Bruno creating chances throughout the season and beyond.
Why are you talking about Brighton when he was talking about Villareal??
About the Liverpool game, I didnt really learn anything about Bruno from that. The one thing I saw was that we are much better with two actual central midfielders. So regardless who plays in the 10 we shoudl ALWAYS have Mainoo there partnered with Amrabat or Casemiro when the latter is fit again.
So a chance is not a chance unless a shot on goal is the end result? Guess you learn something new on here every day
Our attackers are still shit even if Bruno plays. The whole point here is that we don't need Bruno to be a dangerous side. It makes me laugh how people claimed we missed him in an away draw against Liverpool, when he did absolutely nothing against Bournemouth except waive his hands around and get himself suspended.
Yeah, it should be Mainoo plus Amrabat behind Bruno. Once Casemiro is fit then it should be Case + Mainoo.
2 CMs is the way to go.
Right, so we are narrowing Bruno's season/career down to the game against Bournemouth? The other poster yesterday was right, your negative obsession of one of our players (one of our best players) is remarkable.So a chance is not a chance unless a shot on goal is the end result? Guess you learn something new on here every day
Our attackers are still shit even if Bruno plays. The whole point here is that we don't need Bruno to be a dangerous side. It makes me laugh how people claimed we missed him in an away draw against Liverpool, when he did absolutely nothing against Bournemouth except waive his hands around and get himself suspended.
You really think Bruno wouldn't have improved on McTominay's performance at 10 yesterday? It's quite probable, of course, that the manager doesn't play the same system if Bruno was available, but that's not Bruno's fault. Hopefully EtH sees sense and starts to use 2 deeper midfielders going forward so we can again see the best of Fernandes and not have to watch McTominay hiding as a 10.
And as for your first sentence, I guess every time we step foot in the opponent's half is a chance going by that logic.
Same poster thinks selling Fred was a mistake and was posting his passing stats to try and make some sort of point about him.
Bruno in the 10 yesterday, if he played with structure and patience behind the ball, he probably would have been better than McT. If he would have broke the pressing lines and let them bypass straight into midfield then not so much. We've seen him do that many times, one of the last games against Liverpool it was his stupid pressing run that let them straight out and up the pitch for a goal.
This setup with him in the 10 role suits him against most teams. In most games he'd be infinitely better than McT in there, but maybe not yesterday.
Bruno this season has been terrible apart from the last 6 weeks. You really can't be serious if you think he's been good this season. Even his most stalwart defenders wanted him benched for a period. That's how bad he was.
Whether or not he would've been an upgrade on McTominay yesterday is impossible to say for sure. Bruno is usually dogshit in big games. It is likely but that barometer isn't very high. But other factors come into play. We would've given away the ball more and given them more counter attacks and we would have less physicality.
Why would he make such a big difference against Liverpool when there plenty of games this season he has done nothing?
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Selling Fred was a mistake because we didn't replace him. Context, please. Don't be such a twat.
Hey look, I'm not going to argue that if we want to play a pragmatic game and mostly defend during a game that leaving Bruno out could be a solution, however this poster is after Bruno in pretty much every game.
It wasn't a mistake, buying him was a mistake, playing him for 5 years was mistake. Selling him was the right move.
He was replaced, Hannibal was brought up and Mount was signed.
Fully aware.
No idea how anyone could take offence to Fred being shipped out but also aim so much crap towards Bruno. I'm not Bruno's biggest fan, but he's an infinitely better player than Fred. So it doesn't make any sense.
There is a huge middle ground between being great all season and one game against Bournemouth. Fans have had a bee in their bonnet with Bruno since the 7-0 last season, and some really can't let it go.
Go back and watch McTominay yesterday, particularly the first half. He was literally scared to have the ball, constantly just being half a yard away from a pass etc in order to mask the fact he didn't want it. For all of Bruno's faults, you'll never get that from him.
It's quite possible that had Bruno been playing, we lose as we go for it a bit more, but equally the chances of us nicking a win are also higher.
And for the millionth time, it's fine to not rate Bruno, I have my own frustrations with him, but you still seem to think that ditching him is the answer to our problems despite the other much poorer players/performers still in the team.
Glad that he didn't have to play. I like my #10s way less erratic than he is. We also seem to look like more of a 'team' when he doesn't play.
I agree with this. I think it's a midfield with potential, although Casemiro probably don't have that many good years left.
My hope is that Bruno has the longevity of Modric and Mainoo lives up to his obvious potential.
He may not have played but with how atrocious Dombasslad was last night, he was there in spirit
Because I can't recall if we shot in front of the opposition fans or our own fans vs Villarreal. Nevertheless he said Bruno won the coin toss vs Villarreal and chose to shoot second, which simply didn't happen.
Honestly doubt it would have helped with our attacking, we were rarely in a position to attack anyway.
Yes he did. Even though I fail to see how that is relevant to whether or not he was missed against Liverpool
I wasn't the one who made that point. It's not remotely relevant.
I know and I agree with you
Play Bruno in McT's place yesterday and we would have won it. Play Bruno and McT or Bruno and Mount and lose control.
I should've known you wouldn't be able to resist jumping onto the Bruno thread shortly after the Liverpool game, despite peddling the idea that this type of behaviour was weird only a few days beforehand.
Why are people criticising him when he's not playing?
Those are hardly the same thing though. Quite the opposite in fact.
Come on. How is that the opposite of criticising him when he's not playing?
Zaafi is claiming that we didnt miss Bruno in that match, or that we where better off without him in that match. I think there are matches where I think Eriksen is excellent but other matches where I think we are better off with a different style and thus different player. That is hardly a harsh criticism but more a reflection on the team setup and tactics as a whole.
Now my personal opinion is that I do think we missed Bruno because McT does nothing at all in a 10 role and the reason we looked better is more du having two natural central midfielders and thus more balance defensively.
The other person was talking about Mount as a player and how bad he is for us, despite him hardly playing for us. Id argue there is a big difference.
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And that's not even mentioning his pressing, tackles, interceptions, workrate and fitness!
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Highly doubt it. We haven't scored a single goal at Anfield with Bruno on the pitch.
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Well done Bruno. You have won the database trophy.
I honestly am baffled as I see these stats pop up every season he's been here, because I watch the guy every game and I just see a hindrance to us being a big team who has the occasional moment.
How many times has he lost the ball or given it away? Flailed his arms? Sulked?
We benefited from him being suspended for the Liverpool game and no one can convince me otherwise.
We had a chance of nicking a goal with him on the pitch though..
We have had many games like that with Ole and Bruno has shone
We would have gotten smashed as per usual with this guy playing. Couldn't care less what his statistics show, he is a flat track bully who is more concerned with padding his statistics than helping the team
Agree with you. We were far more disciplined without his performative shuttle runs where he makes our defensive shape disjointed and easier to play through. Regardless of his stats I also think Bruno’s approach to football is a key reason for us being unable to control games. Not good in tight spaces, not press resistant, not good at ball retention, can’t dribble, doesn’t have a concept of La Pausa. Honestly reckon Mount is better at all of these things and I don’t rate him too highly either.
He wouldn’t start in any other side in contention for the Champions League. We need to move on from Bruno.
This is more the result of the cause of the problems he causes than a solution.
Stats wise on paper…problem is the game is played on grass. Performances are far more important than stats.