StamsShinyHead
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Do people not remember how shite he was here? I feel like I'm in another universe looking on.
A combination of Sancho fanboys coming out of their closet and "ETH out" gangs seeing a nice stick to beat ETH with.Do people not remember how shite he was here? I feel like I'm in another universe looking on.
And for some reason Ronaldo suddenly plays better after he left Ten Hag. Is it because of the manager or the players I am not so sure.Surprising that some people say that ETH was unhappy with Sancho's performances. Is this the same ETH who is always happy with the unstoppable Antony?
ETH is the problem. He is not a good manager and he has favorites (who are not good players). He was constantly moving Sancho around, left, right, striker ... while he was always playing Antony. And on top of that, he blamed Sancho in public that he does not train well, and when Sancho replied that he trains well (just defending himself) ... ETH demanded a PUBLIC apology!
Apology for what? Do you really believe that Sancho should apologize for saying that he always tries hard? Who does this? It was like asking Sancho to say in public that he does not train well. It's silly to ask this from a player. It is disrespectful.
ETH created the problem, he is NOT a good manager.
Or the league.And for some reason Ronaldo suddenly plays better after he left Ten Hag. Is it because of the manager or the players I am not so sure.
and score 1 goal per game running under 45 degree hot sun is not a good achievement?Or the league.
It's really not. Nobody cares about the Saudi league. He could score a hattrick every game and he is still past it with a shit attitude.and score 1 goal per game running under 45 degree hot sun is not a good achievement?
Say all you want about his attitude and I agree with you, but don't dismiss the league like that. And nobody said he is wanted back, but we still can acknowledge he is a generational talent of the time and his fallout with Ten Hag is also about football disagreement.It's really not. Nobody cares about the Saudi league. He could score a hattrick every game and he is still past it with a shit attitude.
His fallout was because he was not ready to do what the manager wanted. He can score 100 goals if he wants but if the manager puts him on the bench then you comply or you leave. He left but threw a hissy fit. Did interviews and was disrespectful. He can go do one.Say all you want about his attitude and I agree with you, but don't dismiss the league like that. And nobody said he is wanted back, but we still can acknowledge he is a generational talent of the time and his fallout with Ten Hag is also about football disagreement.
ETH was winning until two night ago, when Sancho gave a shit, put in a performance and now he is second coming of Mr Jesus.this reads a like UFC bout, who's winning?
It's Saudi league ffs, no need to glorify everything. Ronaldo performance has nothing to do with EtH.and score 1 goal per game running under 45 degree hot sun is not a good achievement?
I am also here to dismiss that league, it is rubbish.Say all you want about his attitude and I agree with you, but don't dismiss the league like that. And nobody said he is wanted back, but we still can acknowledge he is a generational talent of the time and his fallout with Ten Hag is also about football disagreement.
He had 2 full seasons and 80 games to show what he could do. He rarely showed it, he was given time off to get himself right and threw his toys out of the pram when he was dropped for a game, because the manager said he wasn't doing enough in training and other players were.Calling people who thinks Sancho deserve a second chance fanboys is not very nice. After all, he is only 24 years old and deems as one of the most talented winger at his age.
When you believe your manager is a liar and call him out, you may either succumb to the power and make apology in order to be welcome again or stick to your words and get the full treatment, I probably respect the latter more. Trust me, I am from Vietnam and I know how tough it is to say what you think is right. Considering what we know now about Ten Hag, is he or is he not a liar and a fraud, that would be a question up to debate.
Ronaldo is 39. His superstar status, plus his old age and his declining abilities, naturally require special handling. ETH is a stubborn, mediocre manager who was not capable of properly handling Ronaldo - or Sancho.And for some reason Ronaldo suddenly plays better after he left Ten Hag. Is it because of the manager or the players I am not so sure.
Which means he's at Abderrazak Hamdallah levels. That's not a minor achievement to be ignored for Ronaldo and another feather to his cap.It's Saudi league ffs, no need to glorify everything. Ronaldo performance has nothing to do with EtH.
That's a different question. Nobody claimed that he performed great for United. The point is just that a lot of people seem to think Sancho was kicked out for being unprofessional, but there is zero evidence for that being the reason.So how did Sancho perform on the field with Rangnick as the manager?
Who better to have an insight into it than a guy who was a transfer rumour for about 20 years?Well if Wesley says it case closed
It was a combination of it all. Shit, half arsed performances, being late several times whilst playing PS until 3am, and then of course the social media incident. So yes, being unprofessional also played a partThat's a different question. Nobody claimed that he performed great for United. The point is just that a lot of people seem to think Sancho was kicked out for being unprofessional, but there is zero evidence for that being the reason.
It was always just about performance and EtH and Sancho clashed over how they saw Sancho's performance.
Very AI thing to say thatAnd for some reason Ronaldo suddenly plays better after he left Ten Hag. Is it because of the manager or the players I am not so sure.
Could be that Rangnick was just too soft and not demanding enough, which was great with Sancho as he didn't have to prove a lot? His results were terrible after all and no one really looked good under him.I'm bit a surprised by this, I must admit. The picture painted was that there very constant disiplin issues.
https://x.com/ESPNFC/status/1745860696288465305
How many times has he dropped Antony to the bench this season, you don't hear of him having a hissy fit and plastering his discontent all over social media.Surprising that some people say that ETH was unhappy with Sancho's performances. Is this the same ETH who is always happy with the unstoppable Antony?
ETH is the problem. He is not a good manager and he has favorites (who are not good players). He was constantly moving Sancho around, left, right, striker ... while he was always playing Antony. And on top of that, he blamed Sancho in public that he does not train well, and when Sancho replied that he trains well (just defending himself) ... ETH demanded a PUBLIC apology!
Apology for what? Do you really believe that Sancho should apologize for saying that he always tries hard? Who does this? It was like asking Sancho to say in public that he does not train well. It's silly to ask this from a player. It is disrespectful.
ETH created the problem, he is NOT a good manager.
Is this a funny joke?And for some reason Ronaldo suddenly plays better after he left Ten Hag. Is it because of the manager or the players I am not so sure.
I'm going to flag your post for racism. All leagues are equal.You know the Saudi league is ranked a smidge below the EPL, right?
Fair. Bake me away, toys.I'm going to flag your post for racism. All leagues are equal.
Ronaldo demanded to leave, skipped preseason, and then played like utter shit when he did come back. Wout was literally better for us last season than Ronaldo was. And no, that's not an exaggeration.Ronaldo is 39. His superstar status, plus his old age and his declining abilities, naturally require special handling. ETH is a stubborn, mediocre manager who was not capable of properly handling Ronaldo - or Sancho.
Spot on.Of all his failings and incompetence, removing Sancho and Ronaldo are the two things I would not blame Hag for.
That's obviously true but still scoring 44 goals in 45 matches (29 goals in 26 league matches) is hardly easy and not something of a finished player. The second top striker in the league is Mitrovic at 22 goals, a very good player. Malcom has scored 13 goals, Mane 12, Benzema 9, Mahrez 10 etc, so hardly a very easy league to score. I am pretty sure that Weghorst and Hojlund wouldn't be scoring at anywhere that rate there.Is this a funny joke?
You know the Saudi league is ranked a smidge below the EPL, right?
He didn't. He just stood his ground when he disagreed with the manager. Suspending him from the squad was EtH's reaction to that (and I don't disagree with that), but Sancho did not go on strike, he went on with individual training as ordered.The minute the manager challenged him he threw a hissy fit and went on strike...