Yep, a different opinion is crap to you, that pretty much proves my point.
And yes, I know i am right.
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And yes, I know i am right.
Oh god you know what you obviously want an arguement and I really cant be bothered.I refer you to all my previous posts and that should tell you what you want to know whether you want to call it crap or not I really dont care.Go and get drunk or something to ease your obvious frustration,reply if you want mate I can assure you I wont
'The reason', certainly not... a contribution to making Utd less attractive than it might have been, highly likely.
It was regrettably necessary to explain repeatedly, to those unwilling to listen, that the more a player feels liked by the fans the more positive will be his attitude towards the club, and that the less they are apparently liked the less positive is the attitude. That isn't repeatedly blaming people - it's explaining why the (very limited) blame doled out on a couple of occasions was justified - and having to do the latter because (perhaps) people could only see it in terms of a claim that it was 'the major' influence.
Or to put it another way, "you're right I was talking out of my arse, I apologise"
Fans had their heads up Ronaldo's backside all of 2007-08 season. Didn't stop the cnut dicking the fans and asking for a transfer immediately after the season end.
Allow me to put you out of your misery early Apache
He doesn't listen to logic and sense like this. Only his own little fantasy world where we forced him out with our actions
As suggested - it's merely 'a factor' not necessarily the over-riding one.
The latter phrase is merely your own propaganda - misrepresenting my point that we made him feel less positive about Utd than he might have been - that will have affected the balance to some degree - it does not, nor have I ever claimed it does, amount to 'forcing him out'.
I'm glad you realise the error of your ways.
Accurately describing a body of text does not constitute an apology btw - it may function as a clarification for those incapable of discerning the meaning the first time though.
You'll hear a lot more of that cnuts behaviour once the 80 million is banked. Mark my words.
I'm sorry
"contributed" apparently
It had feck all to do with it and you know it, and what Apache just said proves it
But you have some fantasy nonsense version of what actually happened last summer, so the logic doesn't check our for you
I thought the idea that I'd suggested you'd apologised for something, or admitted you were wrong, was utterly laughable myselfI'm glad you realise the error of your ways.
Accurately describing a body of text does not constitute an apology btw - it may function as a clarification for those incapable of discerning the meaning the first time though.
The only motivation in his decision to move was money.
Not only has his salary nearly doubled, he'll also be paying around 10 million less tax over the course of his contract at Madrid.
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Are you OK mate?
I'm not exactly a "Ronaldo fanboy". I just think the pretentious "I never liked Ronaldo, you all are stupid for liking him" are idiots.
Wtf?I think I will miss his amazing free kicks...Not much else!
Not exactly?
I can't think of one post on here where someone has criticised Ronaldo the player.
One post and suddenly I became Ronaldo's biggest fan?Not exactly?
I can't think of one post on here where someone has criticised Ronaldo the player.
This thread is getting repetative and boring now. We get it, half of you despise the lad even though he has given us so much. Attitude wasn't the best, we all agree.
Now just get over it. Its boring now.
Now just get over it. Its boring now.
What the feck are you on about?One post and suddenly I became Ronaldo's biggest fan?
There are plenty who unjustifiably criticised Ronaldo the man though.Not exactly?
I can't think of one post on here where someone has criticised Ronaldo the player.
Really? Did Ronaldo tell you this himself when you gave him the finger at the airport recently?
Or is it far more likely that money was a significant factor in his decision, but not the only one? Climate and location probably helped - his family desperately wanting to him to play for them may have helped as well. The superstar lifestyle within that culture would have been very attractive as well. Then there are other factors - like how attractive he still found Utd and the English game.
Yet according to you ONLY MONEY had any effect at all.
Just how blinkered are you?
I bet if he was not wanted by Real all the above you mention would have been fine. I would also imagine it would have all been fine at United had he been offered less money than United by Madrid.Really? Did Ronaldo tell you this himself when you gave him the finger at the airport recently?
Or is it far more likely that money was a significant factor in his decision, but not the only one? Climate and location probably helped - his family desperately wanting to him to play for them may have helped as well. The superstar lifestyle within that culture would have been very attractive as well. Then there are other factors - like how attractive he still found Utd and the English game.
Yet according to you ONLY MONEY had any effect at all.
Just how blinkered are you?
Yeah, he was rubbish at everything else..
He was a cnut on the pitch. People can only judge him on what they see in public.
If they;'re going to judge him, judge him by what people say about him.
He's liked in the dressing room by pretty much everyone, Sir Alex has said himself he's a likeable lad and very intelligent, he's shown he's got a great sense of humour with his Sky Sports interviews, there are many more examples to prove the idea he's a cnut is rubbish...
If you're not going to judge him by his overall personality then don't judge him at all.
Judging him by how he acts on the pitch is ridiculous. You're a completely different person on the pitch and off it.
On the pitch Paul Scholes is quite a dirty tackler, puts himself about a lot and is very expressive. Off the pitch he's gentle and avoids attention by not being expressive at all.
Not sure what your point is here?
That, if Real were not interested, Ronaldo would not (have had the opportunity to) go? Not sure that really gets you anywhere tbh.
So you seem to now be claiming that the extra money was a significant factor - not 'the only motivation' though. That in itself is a far more reasonable claim (albeit not the one you initially made).
Yet insisting that being offered less would have led to him staying at Utd may not make the slightly stronger implication I suspect you believe it does. At this stage in his career - when his existing pay was set prior to being crowned BPITW - he would (rightly) expect his next pay-deal to be better. If RM had offered less, then this would probably have been viewed as insulting (and in the context of football's odd culture this would be normal).
So you are effectively asking if Ronaldo would have joined them when they were personally insulting him - we'd agree he wouldn't - yet this is probably more accurately portrayed as being about prestige and being appreciated than just about dosh.
It's interesting to suggest an alternative situation, in an alternative future - where Ronaldo had stayed with us through his peak years, ending with a massive salary reflecting continued development and success. When the career had started to go over the peak, and the current wages were based on a period of great success, might Ronaldo's other reasons for liking RM not have led him to accept a slightly lower bid from them (knowing that his next offer from Utd would also be lower)? (Though, of course, RM would not be after him in that situation.)
Money, I suggest, plays a part - yet there are other factors at work - always. Ask Berbatov about City if you doubt this idea.
Spot on.
Berbatov never spoke to City.
Yes. Ronaldo is a football ho.
Yes. Ronaldo is a football ho.
Did he tell you we contributed to his leaving by not supposedly being good enough supporters of him?FeedingSeagulls said:Really? Did Ronaldo tell you this himself when you gave him the finger at the airport recently
Thought not. You made that bullshit up all by yourself
Team mates are hardly going to say he's a cnut.
This Sunday papers will draw a different picture of Ronaldo.
I am not going to apologize for being a huge Ronaldo Supporter because it pisses some people off. If I can't stand up and be honest in what I believe in then I am lying to myself. I am a United Supporter but I admire his talent and will always be interested in how he is doing elsewhere. I am sure when England plays in the World Cup etc talents from Liverpool etc is admired ....there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Nobody is going to tell me who to admire or praise...I am no puppet or a bitter loser
And here's where your argument falls down
Brwned has it spot on...there are numerous instances of Ronaldo doing fantastically charitable, honourable and decent things that are either never reported by the papers, or tucked away because they don't make good sound bites...
He paid for the medical bills and retirement plan of a crocked portugeese player he grew up with
He sent money, aid and visted a lad in east timor who's life had been ruined by a recent atrocity (forget whether it was an earthquake or a flood or something like that) even flying him over to OT frequently to see matches...all on the back of seeing a story about him
He paid off debts and for the rehabilitation of his drug addicted brother in law
he gave a ride home to a lad who had come o carrington to watch the team train after he spotted him on the road in the rain...
All of these things happened?..Have you read about them? He also had to deal with being falsely arrested for Rape, the ridiculous scapegoating hatred of allmost the entire country and the death of his father...all before he was 22..
People who think he's a cnut because he postures on the pitch or 'didn't respect his football club to a satisfactory level (despite never handing in a transfer request or striking or any of the other things he could have done) are narrow minded neanderthal idiots in my opinion...and probably cnuts
for fecks sake. I was hoping this thread would die, and sink off the main page and some twat comes on and bumps it.
And he had good reason for most of those tantrums on the pitch ....Reason 1 --he was the most fouled and he was ignored many times because he was painted as this spoilt brat, diver etc who complains when 80% of those times he had a valid reason to protest
your post bumped it also genius
It is boring, with the other half spouting gems along the lines of "fans pushed him out" and "there's still an outside chance he won't sign the Madrid contract". Let's lock this thread then and start one last huge "Viva Ronaldo" thread instead in a last gasp attempt to keep the wonderboy at OT.
Patronising cnut
And then you wonder why true reds can't afford to see their local team with them fecking Asian daytrippers filling OT on matchdays
Was that the junky jumping on the OT pitch with the Permiership trophy? Good thing he won't get anywhere near Rio anytime soon
Nah...he was probably lost and couldn't find the way home himself.
Come to think of it, perhaps he did rape that woman after all