He's not a world class gymnast though..Piss poor technique don't you think Scholesy? Could he improve though over time or is that as good as it will get?
Wayne Rooney | 2007-10 Performances
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This season, he's come into his own.
He's world class, that's all.
He's world class, that's all.
I dont think there is doubt any more. He's found what was missing from his game and is becoming a true master of his craft. He's the main talisman for club and country for a reason. I just hope he can show this form when the World Cup comes around.
Wayne Rooney is World Class!
Wayne Rooney is World Class!
You could have bumped this thread for the cross field ball alone which set forth the first goal.
The ball to Giggs was an incredible pass
Even his celebrations are world class!!!!
What about THAT BALL to Giggs for the first?!!
Aye.
That was sex, awesome technique.
My stream died for that goal. How much of a sex pass was it?
Didn't you see OT awash in white stuff afterwards ... that was the from the orgasms generated by the pass.
The interview where Rooney praised Capello for helping him learn to play more centrally and get in the box etc speaks to some of the transformation in his game.
He still doesn't deserve to be a lone striker.
SAF went on about how today's performance was better than Saturday against Hull, that his control and constantly being a threat by leading the line was a world class performance by him.
Certainly can understand why it is a better option for him to be playing higher up the pitch when paired with Berbatov.
Sorry, is this thread about whether Wayne Rooney is world class?
Unless by 'World Class' you mean 'as good as Maradona' or summat, the answer was yes seven years ago.
Unless by 'World Class' you mean 'as good as Maradona' or summat, the answer was yes seven years ago.
Someone make me a gif of that pass. I want to see it.
it was a great pass but what about that pass against chelsea in the champions league final? When he's on song he's immense and you just hope he can keep it up
The pass to Giggs was simply out of this world.
Reminded me of his pass to Ronny after dispossessing Carvalho in the CL Final.
Seems to make the impossible pass look easy but fecks up a simple pass. He does this because NOBODY was around him in the first half. He over thinks what to do because of no support. Heskey anyone?
Reminded me of his pass to Ronny after dispossessing Carvalho in the CL Final.
Seems to make the impossible pass look easy but fecks up a simple pass. He does this because NOBODY was around him in the first half. He over thinks what to do because of no support. Heskey anyone?
That pass was absolutely sublime. I was stunned.
He wasn't very good today. He did one World Class thing, all be it a very world class thing. He is world class though yes...but it's still a knee jerk bump due to a 2 yard header.
The Caf is almost more spastic tonight than it is after our losses
The Caf is almost more spastic tonight than it is after our losses
it couldn't have been more perfect. hit him on the full run and then the way giggs collected it with such ease. wow!
But he's lost his magic, apparently.
only to the blind and of little faith.
I think everyone expects too much from him up front on his own, or doesn't appreciate what he does up front on his own.
Thought he did his job perfectly, and produced a bit of magic along with it.
It's about time people realise Rooney's an excellent option as the furthest forward striker or the only striker.
Thought he did his job perfectly, and produced a bit of magic along with it.
It's about time people realise Rooney's an excellent option as the furthest forward striker or the only striker.
He's an excellent option yes....But that still isn't where he's best playing
Yet.
Trying to judge where a young player's best position is doesn't always work. Right now he's best in behind the striker but who knows in a couple of years.
Trying to judge where a young player's best position is doesn't always work. Right now he's best in behind the striker but who knows in a couple of years.
You really are simply the most clueless person i've ever shared conversation with in regards to a footballing opinion.
That ball to Giggs alone merits world class, and people STILL complain when he comes deep to get the ball.
In my opinion, in regards to the topic, he's a world class player, but not a world class striker... This is his time, we're chasing a league title, we've got a tough draw for the CL, he's got a chance to put himself on that pinnacle of footballer.
And in time for some random football tournament in South Africa this summer.
He's a world class player, but not a world class striker?
Ignoring the main part that confuses me, in that it doesn't really make any sense seeing as he plays as a striker...but what does he have to do to be called a world class striker?
He's scored 21 times in 26 games!
Ignoring the main part that confuses me, in that it doesn't really make any sense seeing as he plays as a striker...but what does he have to do to be called a world class striker?
He's scored 21 times in 26 games!
Oh! That's intelligent!Sighs Brwned, this is getting old mate.
He's coming into it, a World Class Striker, yes, he's not been a great striker since he's joined us, you can cough up goal statistics from all his seasons with us and they don't cry "World Class" which is why this debate even exists.
The comparison I commonly make is Torres...
- Torres is a world class striker because he has world class attributes in his position.
- Rooney is a world class PLAYER because he excels with his overall game.
Good now or should I go on?
Sorry?
You should realise I genuinely don't have any issue with you, in any way whatsoever, you just happen to have opinions that I don't really understand. It's really not a big deal, I'd have thought. I mean this site's made for debate, it makes no sense for you to be on here if you have a problem with your opinion being challenged.
I'd understand you saying it any other season, but this season Rooney's done everything you'd want from a world class striker - been adaptable in striking positions, been clinical despite not quite bringing the rest of your game together and doing it against a variety of teams.
I don't understand what he needs to do that he hasn't been doing this season to be called a world class striker?
If anything I'd say the vast majority of fans would say the opposite to yours, in that his all round game's not been at it's best but his striking game's been near-perfect.
Close out the season on this form and lift a few trophies, this is his first great season in terms of his goal output (So far), so I can't say he'd walk into a world XI yet.)
For the common perception, especially in the media, He's got it all set up for him... Leading United to something this season, on top of England glory, and he'll be world class to everyone and their grandmother.
TBF, he's got roughly 1 in 2 for United (keeping in mind many of those are sub apps and playing on the left). this is the first season he's playing in a more goal-scoring position (i.e. furthest forward - or like Torres if you will).
this hasn't been his best season with us, even now (i think Mockney's article on fancast is far more eloquent on the subject so i'll refrain from adding to that thought here)
btw, when did Torres ever lift trophies? not at Atletico far's I know
Is Wayne Rooney world class? Top ex-pros give their views on Manchester United's man of the moment... | Mail Online
Quite the compliment he gets there.
Rooney has stepped up to cover the loss of Ronaldo, pitty no one has stepped up to cover Rooney though.
He's a world class footballer, so good he'll do well even played out of position. Easily in the top 10 footballers in the world for me. He may well go on to be an excellent first striker but that's because he's just great wherever he plays.. in the same way he'd be an excellent left winger if his position was changed to that.
So some people agree with me...
Thank you.
You said Rooney is a world class player, but not a world class striker.
Rush said Rooney is a world class striker, who can be a world class player.
How does what Ginola said back up your opinion in any way, shape or form?
Sorry Searl, but Brwned made a good post above. Everything about his striking game this season has been almost perfect, whereas some of his flair and all round game has been sacrificed by him playing further forward. TO have achieved the strike rate he has this season and for you to still say he isn't world class is quite baffling. There isn't a striker in the league playing as well as Rooney right now.
Le Sigh,
You'd swear i'm rating the lad lowly... He's coming to his own, turning INTO a WORLD CLASS STRIKER... Instead of tearing apart the comments I make, figure out what I mean... The threat of stating an opinion on this place is sometimes embarassing.
Genola says what I said to a tee, he's a world class forward, a complete player, half the players he lists there don't even play striker, so if you will, degrade his comment, not mine.
What Rush said is exactly what i've been saying... "...Certainly, the form he’s in at the moment he’s world class." ... So how is he not saying anything that i've said any different? If anything, he proposes my opinion and puts it into the right words, sorry if i'm not a linguist to your ever so high stature.
Since when does one World-Class season merit you the title WORLD CLASS?... If that was the case, then christ almighty John O'Shea is a World Class Right-Back.
Just a few weeks ago Rooney was going through a big slump... And NOW all of a sudden it's "Defend Rooney, anyone who says a lick of anything that doesn't rate him world-class must be castrated"
feck me for having an opinion, I stick by it and I have merited why:
Rooney is a world class footballer
Rooney is not YET a world class striker
If he does this until May and in the summer and next season, then yes, the boy has reached the promise land... But until then it's alot of pre-mature press.
I'll be over here if you'd like to continue
You'd swear i'm rating the lad lowly... He's coming to his own, turning INTO a WORLD CLASS STRIKER... Instead of tearing apart the comments I make, figure out what I mean... The threat of stating an opinion on this place is sometimes embarassing.
Genola says what I said to a tee, he's a world class forward, a complete player, half the players he lists there don't even play striker, so if you will, degrade his comment, not mine.
What Rush said is exactly what i've been saying... "...Certainly, the form he’s in at the moment he’s world class." ... So how is he not saying anything that i've said any different? If anything, he proposes my opinion and puts it into the right words, sorry if i'm not a linguist to your ever so high stature.
Since when does one World-Class season merit you the title WORLD CLASS?... If that was the case, then christ almighty John O'Shea is a World Class Right-Back.
Just a few weeks ago Rooney was going through a big slump... And NOW all of a sudden it's "Defend Rooney, anyone who says a lick of anything that doesn't rate him world-class must be castrated"
feck me for having an opinion, I stick by it and I have merited why:
Rooney is a world class footballer
Rooney is not YET a world class striker
If he does this until May and in the summer and next season, then yes, the boy has reached the promise land... But until then it's alot of pre-mature press.
I'll be over here if you'd like to continue
In no way, shape, or form do I say he's shite, like you guys seem to be claiming I am.
Maths:
World Class Striker = Form Now + FormxGoals (Jan+Feb+Mar+Apr+May) + Good World Cup
I think the problem people have with your opinion is that you're suggesting he still has to do MORE to prove himself as a world class striker, when he blatantly already is one of the very best strikers in the world. He has been a world class PLAYER for years. His all round game is fantastic. He has pace, power, vision, passing and a great long shot. Everything you want in a forward player and he's been the heartbeat of our team fr a good few seasons. Ronaldo took most of the plaudits for his goalscoring exploits, but his partnership with Rooney was breath taking a times.
This season he's played in a much more advanced role than he's used to. And you might even say it's not natural for him. still, he's cracked on with it and shown that his goalscoring rate can compete with any striker in world football. He leads the line well, he's a brilliant finisher and he has improved his heading, though that is one area that still needs work. As I said earlier, some of his flair has been sacrificed in order for him to take up the more advanced role, and he isn't involved in the build up play as much anymore and doesn't really dominate games, but that's because of the role he's been asked to play and he's doing his job as well as anyone in the league and possibly the world.
Wayne Rooney doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. he's a world class footballer and striker and has been for years. To suggest he hasn't is strange from a United fan. You would expect Scousers or bitters to say that, but United fans who watch him every week and know the class of the lad should be together in their praise of just how important he is to our team. You don't become Manchester United's most important player without being world class Searl, it's that simple.
And nobody has said you think he's shit, but you're not giving him the credit he deserves. I haven't "torn into your comments", I just disagree with them. I'm sorry if that surpprises you, but when you post your opinion on a forum expect a certain number of people to disagree with it.
Rooney's one of the few players that makes me laugh during a match, simply because of how good he is. That pass to Giggs was absolutely extraordinary - I didn't even spot that with a bird's eye view of the pitch.
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