Cool - I've been on holiday all week, who have we bought?United spend £60m+
Isn't that a good thing, especially if we finance a good chunk of our outgoings by selling players we can afford to lose?Don't know why they're getting all excited and calling it a spending spree.
We're buying yes, we'll be selling too. Won't have spent much come the end of the season.
Speculation in a teacup as usual by the papers.
1. Is the grapevine really buzzing?Football’s grapevine is buzzing with rumours that Qatar Holdings, the business arm of the country’s ruling royal family, are the real force behind a United cash spree that is set to top £125MILLION.
This-ishSounds to me like the media are beginning to believe their own ficticious propaganda.
United spend £60m+ — But, they're skint, the Glazers have ruined the club; we said so, remember! — Hmmm, it must be the Qataris funding the transfers!
They've added two and two, and a couple of made-up numbers that don't exist, and come up with a googolplex.
Waste of time.
Yes it is.Isn't that a good thing, especially if we finance a good chunk of our outgoings by selling players we can afford to lose?
Yes basically!Are the papers basically assuming this simply because we look to be spending a fair bit of cash this summer? Seems a bit of a case of 2 + 2 = 5 to me.
Cool - I've been on holiday all week, who have we bought?
Can't remember what the terms were, but I'm sure my money's safe!
I fancy you've been having a few sleepless nights lately over our ''net spend'' wager.
hmm I just got back from Mexico for a week and there was a fair few brits in the resort, a couple of fat blokes dicussing the quality of beckfords goal against chelsea though in some sort of mangled language...which I imagine was scouse.Cool - I've been on holiday all week, who have we bought?
I win if our net transfer spend is £75m or higher between 01 July 2010 (so including the signing of Bebe) and June 30 2012. You win if it's lower. We agreed on the terms just after the close of the January 2011 transfer window IIRC.Can't remember what the terms were, but I'm sure my money's safe!
Seriously though, Cider's got another thread going on about how we've got De Gea and Young... I presume if we'd actually signed them, I'd have found out by now, having been back online for two days?
I smelt summat when I read about teh transfer funds bit..Sounds like bollocks, to be fair, Dreamsy.
That's a load of bull to be fair.Qatar Holdings making £2 billion takeover plans for Manchester United > Manchester United > Sport | Click Manchester
Qatar Holdings are reportedly planning a £2 billion takeover of Manchester United.
The People claims Qatar Holdings, the business arm of the country’s ruling royal family, are financing United’s summer spending which is expected to be around £125 million.
It is argued that United’s owners, the Glazer family, who bought the club for nearly £800 million in 2005, do not have the financial capability to fund that level of transfer spending.
Qatar Holdings, a division of the Qatar Investment Authority, is believed to have had a £1.5 billion offer turned down last year.
Rumours in the financial world suggest that a third party – thought to be the Qataris – may have in any event provided a £250 million loan to the Glazers late last year.
That move, if believed, could be the forerunner to a full-blown takeover bid, which may be £2 billion, the figure at which the Glazers are reckoned to value the club.
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It's not really though.The fact that the story just won't go away is actually an indicator that the Qataris interest might be genuine. And make not mistake: If they want to buy the club - and that's a big if - they will get it.
Enlighten me!It's not really though.
Bullshit!It's a bullshit story, and repeating a bullshit story over and over and over doesn't make it any less bullshit.
The shitty papers are pissing in your pocket and telling you it's raining.
Can you give an example of other long running bullshit stories that had zero truth in them? Most get dropped after a short while.It's a bullshit story, and repeating a bullshit story over and over and over doesn't make it any less bullshit.
The shitty papers are pissing in your pocket and telling you it's raining.
t.silva really?Our next line.up
Casillas
D.Alves T.Silva Vidic Cole
Xavi Busquets Iniesta
Messi Rooney
Ronaldo
ColeOur next line.up
Casillas
D.Alves T.Silva Vidic Cole
Xavi Busquets Iniesta
Messi Rooney
Ronaldo
hah yeh. would have been more likely with Gary Fkn Cahil there.t.silva really?
Both good points. Personally, though I'm in no way a fan of the Glazers, I would much prefer them than to be sold to Qatar, or any other sugar-daddy style owner.Why would i not want this to happen? firstly and most importantly is the uncertainty, we can bicker all we want about our level of debt under the Glazers, they have in no way meddled with the managers decisions on the pitch. New owners, Arab owners and i dont wish to be stereotypical or generalize here, are very proud and in a sense arrogant in their dealings, will want to be hands on, perhaps maybe not when Fergie is around but certainly afterwards. I wouldnt want that.
Secondly, we'd be pretty much untouchable on and off the pitch if massive amounts of cash were piled in for the very best players. To be very crude but have you ever played FM with the money cheat? its feckn boring after you have got a team of 11 of the 11 best players. Youth policy would be virtually redundent, something which we have always striven upon. A takeover would go against our traditions so much that our 130yr history would be all fairly meaningless.
Having said that, Messi would be nice.......
Will this finally put an end to this rubbish? This whole thread has been nothing but bullshit from the beginning.DOHA, June 15 (Reuters) - Qatar Holding has denied reports it is planning to buy Manchester United, a statement from Qatar's state-run news agency said.
Qatar Holding Chief Executive Officer Ahmed Mohamed Al Sayed told Qatar News Agency that the fund was not, and never had been, in negotiations to buy the club.
Qatar recently acquired a 70 percent stake in French top-flight team Paris St Germain .
Agree with this.Im not sure if i want this, but i do think there is something in the story. I've always maintained the Glazers 'bought' the club to sell, much like a property investment where the value only goes up with time (in the main) it was always a shrewd investment, and United with their global appeal are Mayfair.
Why would i not want this to happen? firstly and most importantly is the uncertainty, we can bicker all we want about our level of debt under the Glazers, they have in no way meddled with the managers decisions on the pitch. New owners, Arab owners and i dont wish to be stereotypical or generalize here, are very proud and in a sense arrogant in their dealings, will want to be hands on, perhaps maybe not when Fergie is around but certainly afterwards. I wouldnt want that.
Secondly, we'd be pretty much untouchable on and off the pitch if massive amounts of cash were piled in for the very best players. To be very crude but have you ever played FM with the money cheat? its feckn boring after you have got a team of 11 of the 11 best players. Youth policy would be virtually redundent, something which we have always striven upon. A takeover would go against our traditions so much that our 130yr history would be all fairly meaningless.
Having said that, Messi would be nice.......
While I agree with most of your points, the health of the club does come first and if our current ownership is a threat to the club's existence in the long term future I would obviously prefer the debt being wiped out. Of course we all want United's great traditions well and truly as part of its present and future, but not at the risk of the club's general health.Im not sure if i want this, but i do think there is something in the story. I've always maintained the Glazers 'bought' the club to sell, much like a property investment where the value only goes up with time (in the main) it was always a shrewd investment, and United with their global appeal are Mayfair.
Why would i not want this to happen? firstly and most importantly is the uncertainty, we can bicker all we want about our level of debt under the Glazers, they have in no way meddled with the managers decisions on the pitch. New owners, Arab owners and i dont wish to be stereotypical or generalize here, are very proud and in a sense arrogant in their dealings, will want to be hands on, perhaps maybe not when Fergie is around but certainly afterwards. I wouldnt want that.
Secondly, we'd be pretty much untouchable on and off the pitch if massive amounts of cash were piled in for the very best players. To be very crude but have you ever played FM with the money cheat? its feckn boring after you have got a team of 11 of the 11 best players. Youth policy would be virtually redundent, something which we have always striven upon. A takeover would go against our traditions so much that our 130yr history would be all fairly meaningless.
Having said that, Messi would be nice.......
Key clause in bold there. In what way are we certain of how much the current owners may or may not meddle once Fergie is out of the picture?Why would i not want this to happen? firstly and most importantly is the uncertainty, we can bicker all we want about our level of debt under the Glazers, they have in no way meddled with the managers decisions on the pitch. New owners, Arab owners and i dont wish to be stereotypical or generalize here, are very proud and in a sense arrogant in their dealings, will want to be hands on, perhaps maybe not when Fergie is around but certainly afterwards. I wouldnt want that.
Totally agree with the sentiment, but am optimisitic the the Fair Play regs should limit our ability to do this even if an owner wanted to (and hence hopefully discourage an owner who wanted to do this form even bidding).Secondly, we'd be pretty much untouchable on and off the pitch if massive amounts of cash were piled in for the very best players. To be very crude but have you ever played FM with the money cheat? its feckn boring after you have got a team of 11 of the 11 best players. Youth policy would be virtually redundent, something which we have always striven upon. A takeover would go against our traditions so much that our 130yr history would be all fairly meaningless.
Yes they do, but the one's with some substance are the one's that linger. There are few examples of long running gossip that has no truth to them.Transfer stories are a prime example, papers make shit up all the time.
The difference here, as was oft discussed the first time around, is that the Qataris will be happy with the speculation and so won't make much (any) effort to dismiss it.