I don’t have one but we’ve been working on at least two?
FDJ and Eriksen. And likely Timber, too.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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FDJ and Eriksen. And likely Timber, too.
Who's to say we are only working on one target ?
Maybe it is a really tight and finite budget this summer, so any hike in the price ( or potential saving) could impact other targets. Moreover Barca need the deal done by Fri and you would assume that they have insisted that a lot of the fee is upfront cold hard cash. Which again will impact potential other transfers and the structure of the finance.
It's official, you bought the wrong Dutch bald guy. Arne Slot won the Rinus Michels award.
You know this for sure?
Yea I was going to say along the same lines as this. I think ETH has probably asked for FDJ as number one priority but depending on how much we spend will impact which other players we can go for.
Eriksen is ok because he is a free transfer but the other targets will probably require us to play with the budget a bit to make sure it stretches far enough
With all due respect, your argument my post is largely conjecture, is based on, well, ....conjecture.
1. Nunez - conjecture
2. "We also know ETH resumed early and wanted the deals done before report of preseason." - absolutely conjecture - ETH nor United have ever stated anything of the kind.
3. Gating the entire summer business on one transfer goes against what has already played out. - means what exactly? What has been 'played out already, if not conjecture in the media?
4. "Timber as well could have been here before FDJ if not for LVG." - the use of the words 'could well have...is, well, conjecture.
5. "Most importantly putting a pause on other transfers till the one gets done would be a suicide strategy." - that is just your personal opinion, isnt it.
Feel like pure shit, just wanna see Erik with a United mouse mat in his desk.
I think timber is dead in the water as it seems he wants to stay 1 more year at Ajax due to playing time or something.
I reckon if we are getting a player from Ajax it will be Antony.
You think it's conjecture that we were in for Nunez and Timber? What the hell? You know what the term means right? So why not also call the FDJ transfer news conjecture? These things were reported by several sources. So for you things that are actually reported by several sources are the same as a personal theory that ETH has gated all transfer business till FDJ gets here? Or were you simply overly eager to throw the term back at me? In any case I gave some reasons why I believed the theory to be unlikely so that might have been a better start for a reply than simply weaponizing the term. Who knows, maybe you might even have convinced one of its plausibility. Definitely beats denying a well established interest in Timber or Nunez.
The club isn't simply waiting for FDJ to get here to start looking at other targets. The news coming out of the club is we're trying on different fronts, it's just not working out for reasons here or there.
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I'm not sure if the players enjoy each other's company as a collective, a few players are good friends with each other and that's about it.
Also, I agree with one of the posters above, that no organisation should mandate employees to spend time with their colleagues. I don't think this will have any benefit.
As far as his training with the ball is concerned, when a manager implements this, the players are expected to take care of their individual fitness levels, this bunch needs to be handheld for everything.
Anyway, no point speculating so much before a ball has been kicked. We'll see what happens.
Also, I agree with one of the posters above, that no organisation should mandate employees to spend time with their colleagues. I don't think this will have any benefit.
As far as his training with the ball is concerned, when a manager implements this, the players are expected to take care of their individual fitness levels, this bunch needs to be handheld for everything.
Anyway, no point speculating so much before a ball has been kicked. We'll see what happens.
they‘re getting paid it’s hardly a mandate is it
Wishing ETH well
Why not?
Give me proof we are only working on one transfer.
A football team is not like a normal organisation. Having them eat together at the training complex is about as standard as it gets. If the players have issues between themselves, it's not really ideal, and I'd assume if they aren't valuable on the pitch (like Sheringham and Cole) they'd be shipped out. They don't have to be best friends, but drama won't help unifying a team.
Because you're not paid for that. Also some people wouldn't be comfortable with it for various reasons.
They can still work together on the pitch without having to be forced to spend meal times with each other. I just think the ideas that worked for ETH at Ajax are necessarily going to work here, even the ideas that worked under SAF are going to work if any other manager implements it.
Asking team to have meals together is not a big ask, Pep made City team to eat together. It's a common thing.
«Not paid for that».
I feel like firing someone every time I hear those words. Same with «not in my job describition».
They are paid to be professional and do as they are told, within reason of course. Eating a meal together is certainly within reason. It's a perfectly normal thing that teams do
A team eating together really isn't a big deal and should be encouraged. It's an obvious way to bond and bring unity.
Are people really debating whether eating together is
This isn't the corporate world. It's a football team. The more the players interact, the more they build team spirit which is needed on the pitch.
I have a lot of respect for Slot , but he is not yet on the level of Erik ten Hag. I know you are biast because of Feyenoord, but you must remain realistic
Was I really being serious though?
I don't agree if they then get used to successfully passing the Salt, Sugar etc without it landing on the next table.
it could lead to big improvements on the pitch
Just because your brain computes that doesn’t mean it’s correct. We know that you’re wrong because we have offered a contract to Eriksen
im sure that there are countless phone calls and meetings that do not get reported too
When is his next presser due to hold?
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He only showed up at Carrington at exactly 8AM today. Wasn't even out of the car. That's late if you have 8am meetings, and in that position of power he needs to come in earlier to set an example and start sorting this mess out. What if FdJ decided to move at 7.45am to a rival? EtH wouldn't know until it was too late and we'd miss out on another target!
Hate to say it this early, but ten Hag out.
Surely this doesn't need white text but feck me some of ye are slow
Hate to say it this early, but ten Hag out.
Surely this doesn't need white text but feck me some of ye are slow
You are giving our board far too much credit.
Given the history over the last decade, I am inclined to believe that we are focusing on 1 transfer and will move for other targets (seriously), once the result FDJ is known.
The board has zero goodwill in my book and I am more inclined to believe that they are messing things up, than doing things right.
LFC sorted out their transfer of Nunez quickly. And sold Mane, so that his transfer funds can be used elsewhere.
MCFC sorted out Haaland and Philips quickly.
We, on the other hand, who NEED to rebuild (ie. sell AND buy), have done nothing in the market so far.
It baffles me that after the board has screwed up so badly in the last decade, most of you are giving them credit. This is like you defending a wife who has repeatedly cheated on you with different men for a decade.
I know that you’re not correct by the simple fact that we have offered to Eriksen at the same time as negotiations for FDJ are in. That is by my calculations more than 1.
you’re also dismissive of loads of phone calls and meetings I see. So am i to conclude that you think they sit with the feet up listening to summer tunes for the rest of the time?
Mcclaren looks happy
The hardest job he'll ever have started today, best of luck to him as he'll need it with the clowns above him.
Wish him good luck in this tuff job.
So ETH era officially starts today.
Mate you cannot reason with some of these fans. The window has just opened and there are fans who think we should have sold everyone and bought everyone by now. From what I can see of us potentially getting De Jong in the next few days for less than 80mil, potentially being favorites for Eriksen and having shifted matic, lingard, mata, pogba whilst looking like we are getting 8mil for Andreas....seems to be a solid start to the window.
Some of these guys are relentless. They're gonna repeat the same stuff over and over again whatever you reply to them.
You have to realise that some fans don't appreciate the context. Comparing our business to City and Liverpool is just pure and simple dumb. They have teams ready, they can spend on 1/2 players, in the CL, competing, so they dont need to persuade players.
The reason FDJ is important is so that we know 1. We got him and can follow the transfer plan of what else we need. 2. The budget after signing the most important one. 3. If we dont get him, we need to change what positions we need players.
For fans to actually think that we can't work on more than one deal at a time is weird.
Eating a meal together is as basic as it gets when it comes to human behaviour and togetherness. Families and groups have been doing it since caveman days. Family members don't always get on but they are fighting together as a group to survive in the Stone Age the same as fighting together as a team today.
I know it's a small thing but I'm really happy to see McLaren back at the club. Never liked the pisstaking when he was England manager.
Exactly. 'There is no I in TEAM' isn't just a plain or pointless expression.