It happens. Emery is one of the best managers in the league.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Also we've yet to have a manager succeed post United stint. It's not like we've been unlucky in that regard.
Absolutely abysmal situation for the manager to be in.
Mate he’s not a native English speaker. You’re reading too much into it.
We are quite literally talking about his son
He always was. Arsenal had a crap squad and stupid owners. He's a class act
This has also been my perspective on the situation. There's a very positive reality where the hierarchy require a higher standard than what this manager has shown to produce.
I always felt he was sacked way too soon at Arsenal.
We are quite literally talking about his son
Sorry, I thought you were talking about Ten Hag, I didn't go far enough back into your conversation.The point of a good coach is to adjust his overall plan in order to increase the chances of winning. You cant tell me in order for ETH to succeed, he needs the exact type of players he had at Ajax in 18/19.
The obvious follow up question to this should have been “Okay that explains against Fulham, But Jaimes point is broader than this game. You have conceded the second most shots in the league. Do you need half an hour to work out the tactics every time you start the game?”
We were in trouble 5 minutes in and he didn't do anything, then said we missed Casemiro in the end when Case was playing terribly anyway.
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More and more reports about manager being changed next season. ETH is on his way out, hopefully
Seems to be a lot of noise about him being replaced. I don't think he will last past the summer.
Can Zidane do a build up job though? He had an already established great squad at Madrid, I don't know if he could handle a messy situation.
Same sound bites every week
Must do better
Not acceptable blah blah
Same shit on a stick football
Must do better
Not acceptable blah blah
Same shit on a stick football
Lots of briefings in the last 48 hrs. I think its pretty obvious to any sensible person that he will not be here at the start of next season.
A manager should not have to do a rebuild. I would suppose that Berrada and Asworth have been earmarked for the actual rebuilding.
Will tomorrow night's game be like Ole's last game, players threw the towel in and lost 4-1 to Watford.
You still need results whilst building this isn't one window rebuild unless I've missed something regarding PSR/FFP
You build a team over several years, it is not a one transfer window job and he just comes into the complete team. And even then, he would have to make all those new players compact, you don't do that immediately.
Of course, it will take years to get us up where we want.
I would guess Zidane is good enough to get good results with us while rebuilding.
Either he or Luis Enrique for me
The aura Zidane would bring to commence our next chapter would be beautiful. What a face for the new era. Zidane’s Manchester United. Yes sir
Rubbish source of course but let’s see what happens over the coming months
I think people often overestimate how bad results would even get in a “rebuild”. We are 6th this year with absolutely horrid metrics and performances across the board along with a 0 GD, shipping out players like Maguire and replacing with fresher young faces won’t instantly make us much worse even if the improvement isn’t immediate
Of course it will take years, many years. Why would that stop Zidane from being a good manager for us?
It just seems like Zidane himself doesn’t want to deal with the job. He got tired even after winning 3 UCL’s on the trot, in not sure he wants to come to England to test himself at another huge challenge of a club.
Every time his name is leaked there has been a complete shut down. He doesnt like the PL if I remember correctly. Which if true, makes the above tweet bollocks
I don't understand how a top level manager can view players like Antony, Onana, Malacia, Weghorst, Amrabat as top level players for a top level team.
Managers make transfer mistakes - but there's far too many of them to regard it as just a bunch of mistakes. Ten Hag simply has no ability to build a top level team because he simply doesn't have the ability to distinctively see a top level player never mind a system incorporating 11 top level players.
It's clear now that we got over excited by Ten Hag simply improving the players that Overmars and others built at Ajax for him rather than build one by himself.
We also did better last season because again - Ten Hag had to work with more players that were already at the club through previous management - because he has an amazing ability to improve a players abilities & improved players that were already at the club last year outside of his choice - but that's simply not good enough because whilst he can improve players he already has to work with - he has no ability to reach the next level and add great players to create a great squad that's fitted around a great tactical system.
He is a top level assistant manager but not a top level manager.
Managers make transfer mistakes - but there's far too many of them to regard it as just a bunch of mistakes. Ten Hag simply has no ability to build a top level team because he simply doesn't have the ability to distinctively see a top level player never mind a system incorporating 11 top level players.
It's clear now that we got over excited by Ten Hag simply improving the players that Overmars and others built at Ajax for him rather than build one by himself.
We also did better last season because again - Ten Hag had to work with more players that were already at the club through previous management - because he has an amazing ability to improve a players abilities & improved players that were already at the club last year outside of his choice - but that's simply not good enough because whilst he can improve players he already has to work with - he has no ability to reach the next level and add great players to create a great squad that's fitted around a great tactical system.
He is a top level assistant manager but not a top level manager.
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the fact that 4-5 games of those 12 have come this year is pretty concerning.
Should be gone if we lose our next two games.
With the mobility in our current midfield he could do a job on the pitch as well.
Yep
Do you have any evidence of this? Or is this just another silly conspiracy like the Ole and Solbakken one?
Zidane is never going to happen.
Zidane doesn't speak English apparently and seems completely nonplussed about the EPL.
I think it's not impossible but highly improbable and do we even have the type of players he likes to work with?
I think it's not impossible but highly improbable and do we even have the type of players he likes to work with?
There were even reports that people at United were unhappy about the involvement of ETHs agent in the transfer business. I think it's peculiar the way it unfolded with players signing with SEG and then signing for United, when it looked like deals were already lined up and wages not expected to be an issue.
Why do you think Ole was lining his agents pocket but not ETH and SEG? I'd say its likely they are/ were both doing the same thing. Not that I'm particularly bothered, it's the least of my worries when it comes to ETH.
I'd be on the run like Assange if I did
Zidane ain’t happening. Plus, he seems like the type of manager you bring in to coach a star studded and well oiled machine, not the guy to oversee a full scale rebuild.