Ah right, as opposed to the culture wars, faltering services, economic mismanagement and poverty we've had in the past decade, which are uniting people and haven't already had an awful and dangerous impact on so many peoples lives.
This is beyond hyperbole. I find posts like this so bizarre. We’ve had Tories run this country into the ground - it’s as worse as it’s ever been but we’re all meant to be afraid of GG and what he stands for? Come off it.
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The best thing that can happen to democracy is to deprive it of big money, especially here in the UK, and more so in the US. Its hard to say how successful Corbyn would have been in attempting to weed out that rot, but I have no faith that Starmer would be able to curtail it. He's probably seen as malleable enough to be the recipient of these mega donors, who will just as quickly abandon him if/when the Tories restore a semblance of popularity again. Basically, we're stuck with being at the mercy of them until we have a complete rehaul of the system.
It's the only bit of 'power' he has left!
His problem would have been the Union money and him being seen as their puppet. The donor scandal is really about influence buying and Corbyn's lack of distance from leading union figures would have hamstrung him. In all his time as leader I thought he was pretty ineffective in the media game.
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This could be the end of the party. Not because of Rishi being any good, but I genuinely think if they change again and go straight to an election, the electorate will crush them into the dirt.
Fingers crossed.
End of the party? Give over. It’s part of the fabric of this cursed country. An “institution” is an understatement.
As amazing as this will be, the thought of Reform as ‘the opposition’ is absolutely terrifying!
I don't mean the party literally doesn't exist. But I think if they do this again, you could see an election result where they get 50,60,70 seats. Maybe worse. If that was to happen their role in government has ended for the foreseeable future.
Hope he gets sacked Cliff Lawton style.
Hope Sunak makes good on his threat.
No way we have another PM before a GE, it was beyond farcical last time
More dangerous than Suella Braverman?
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It does seem unthinkable. On the other hand a party needs members to keep joining, and the average age of the Tory membership is 72, so they haven't been getting them recently. Financially they rely on big donors, but many of those are really seeking influence, and if there's no prospect of the Tories governing they might look elsewhere. And the same goes for those joining with dreams of being an MP and the gravy train, a lot aren't hugely ideological, they want the power, and without that will they bother?
All I would say is that if Galloway represents the first religious party with any real sway or impact then it might be true.
The Workers Party of Britain isn't a religious party.
Having the cushy seat in Westminster trumps all.
The point is that ultimately the Tory party isn’t a fixed ideology, it’s a racket. There’s no way the party doesn’t pull itself together and gets its house in order ready for the following election. Everyone thought Labour were dead in 2019 and look at the polls now. They don’t believe in anything other than looking after their own interests and it’s harder to do that out of power so they will be pragmatic and work alongside the right wing press to position themselves for Starmer’s mistakes.
That is arguably about support rather than intention. I highlighted the word IF as its not a known fact but one hypothesis of what it morphs into.
No. The fear mongering about GG, a single MP in this thread is really weird.
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Really are just a bunch of Tories.Yep. Sold most of the country's assets to raise funds. Blew the cash on tax cuts and shortterm feel good gains all the while transferring public wealth into private hands. Skipped the opportunity from North sea gas to build infrastructure and plan for the future.
