If Coventry have more than 10 shots against us he should be sacked. A prem giant should be dominating such a game which includes having over 60% possession, dozens of shots and not conceding many chances.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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More than likely won't be on gardening leave that much longer
i don't think anyone has got a clue about this, but it seems that the Ashworth and Wilcox agreements are the priority for now.
Also, don't think Ratcliffe will be making any decisions on this, and will be left to the people in charge already
Also, don't think Ratcliffe will be making any decisions on this, and will be left to the people in charge already
League Cup win has got him immunity for a year despite the fact we didn’t even play a decent side until final. Winning FA Cup after knocking out Liverpool and possibly prevailing over City in the final would easily get him a free pass for the next 3 seasons.
fecking League 2 Newport had 17 shots against us the other month so it wouldn't surprise me if they have +20 shots against us.
I doubt it mate, Cup wins are nice but you don't spend billions investing into a footbal club and then feck with the managers position based on a one off game.
You can if your standards are abysmally low.
Not even a good League 2 side either...they're currently sat in 16th!
There’s no way he’s getting all that kind of support and immunity, no manager would. If he stays on he’ll lose vast majority of his influence in regards to recruitment, it will be night and day in comparison to working with Murtough. He’ll also be on the verge of the sack, INEOS have shown at Nice they are quite happy to get rid of managers.
The most likely outcome is he goes at end of season, if he somehow survives it probably won’t be for very long.
I'd be shocked if that happens, which is sad
Ye that’s true. Forgot about that shambles of a match
It being played at Wembley will give us advantage, they won’t be use to big stadiums. It’s quite sad we’re having to think like they while playing a championship team.
With the way the season's gone, we'll probably lose to Chelsea in the final after leading at the 90th min.
Are Ratcliff and Ineos standards low though?
Wembley is a big pitch, with how laughably open we are in midfield I don't think that will work in our favour.
Wembley is a large, energy-sapping pitch, even more so if it rains prior to kick off. We're exhausted after 70ish minutes most games due to the way we play, so I wouldn't take Wembley as an advantage for us, unless we score first and make the game more expansive via them chasing the ball rather than us/ the man.
If we're having to chase, I think it will have a say in how challenging the match becomes.
It would be sheer incompetence to judge him based on that. Why not something important like the CL? Or the PL?
Did you not see how it ended for LVG? This as repeat all over it. Except we won’t be playing Palace so the chances are we ain’t winning it…. I do wonder though would is job of been saved if we beat a better team in the FA cup, say Liverpool or City…
Chances are the only reason he's still here is that it's more favourable to terminate his contract once he mathematically cannot qualify for the champions league
City arnt through yet, to reach the final they have to beat Chelsea which is something they failed to do home or away in the Premier League this season.
Have you watched us this season?I did. I followed Everton for a while and they've been going through more or less the same motions. Bad play, new manager, bad play continues, sack manager rinse and repeat. Buy players that don't match. I actually think Dyche isn't doing so bad you know. Without the points shaved they would be what, 38 pts now?
It's (our current run of results and play) just a combination of bad luck, bad sales by Glazers, bad or no structure under them to support transfers, no logic, no vision and then a list of injuries that would make anyone cry.
I still believe in ETH. We had some great games. Vs LFC was one for the ages. But I do expect some better game vs Coventry. And, like others noted, we need a good thashing on anybody. The 4 -0 of Necastle, the 6-0 of Chelsea. Stuff like that gives better vibes. Also, one of the reasons why i'm still ETH in: WE didn't get a big beating yet, unlike Spurs, unlike Everton. Somehow we went through a phase of clean sheets and not scoring, to now scoring but not keeping the goals out. It can be worse. It can be a whole lot worse.
And if not, let's not keep on making the same mistake over and over and this time, wait for the new management to come up with a sound plan, vision and new candidate. And then execute.
(That said, didn't Murtough C.S. make a thorough plan under Rangnick, talked and reviewed many candidates for then to end on ETH? At least they tried.)
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To be fair, the BBC officially reported that the club and Mourinho met in December, the 5 months of reporting of it made it feel like a surprise for some, but it was telegraphed by high tier sources 5 months before the fact.
Martial sulked and basically downed tools when Jose took the '9' off him and gave it to Zlatan.
He looked half-arsed when OGS was battling to save his job and he's been consistently lethargic / injured under EtH
It's not lip service at all, Amad was slated to be part of the squad before the season started, the rest have been used because of injuries, we've barely had more than 2 fit CB's much of the season, without the youth players we wouldn't have had a full bench half the time, and including them in match day squads is a big United tradition that goes back decades
Classic Sarni. Why not just say he'll have a free pass for a decade. Might as well ramp it up a little bit.
Yup, was in the pub with friends for that final with the majority being United fans. We were all absolutely buzzing when the news started filtering through.
It was only a part of what was overall a positive first season.
Yeah, last season was fine as a manager's first season. He didn't need any "immunity".
I don't see how a season in which we've been terrible in so many games, looked like we had no clear gameplan and went five steps backwards would be saved in any way by an FA Cup win.
It takes a badly run club to reach the middle of May without any sort of clear plan about its managerial situation for the following season.
True but I was talking about this current season wich everyone sees as a big disapointment. The results you talk about are from the season before wich everyone considers a succes.
At the moment our last and only 2 (for PL season 23 24) loss bigger than 2 goals difference was vs Bournemouth december 9 2023 (0-3), and 3 -0 vs City october 29 2023.
The game vs Bournemouth was also the last game we didn't score at home. Since, we put 29 goals in the net.
And despite our leacky defence, we still have less goals against than Newcastle (52 vs 48 for us), West Ham (58) and Chelsea (52). Spurs in 5th, also has worse against goals stats (49) as does Villa in 4th (49).
The play might not be what you like, and P7 reallly is not good but the stats (and I mean the current table stats) also reveal resultswise it isnt really really bad. Draconian bad. Sack tomorrow bad. INEOS will not be blind for that when they do their evaluation at the end of the season. At the moment, I don't think ETH has anything to fear from them. The coming fixtures might, as always with this club, paint a different picture and we will bicker after every game. As usual.
In good spirits I hope. I still am.
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Why he didn't push to sign Sabitzer is beyond me...
It was, we had to do something big because Pep had gone to City and Van Gaal was offering up shite most weeks. Still think Jose would have probably done a decent job if he’d been allowed to buy and sell whoever he wanted in that second season, probably would have done us a favour with clear out of players we’re about to clear out this summer
He was injured 98 per cent of the time
Is there some clause for this?
unlike all his other signings, who are constantly available
So dogshit in just about every department this season but at least we haven't got batter 6/7-0. Fair enough.
The play might not be what you like, and P7 reallly is not good but the stats (and I mean the current table stats) also reveal resultswise it isnt really really bad. Draconian bad. Sack tomorrow bad. INEOS will not be blind for that when they do their evaluation at the end of the season. At the moment, I don't think ETH has anything to fear from them. The coming fixtures might, as always with this club, paint a different picture and we will bicker after every game. As usual.
I wouldn't ever want us to be as bad as it would need to be for you to think the manager needs sacking.
A FA Cup win doesn't save our season, and shouldn't save Ten Hag's job. It's been an awful season, and in the grand scheme of things winning that particular trophy really would mean very little. It's not a sign of progress or anything like that.
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It really has been one of those seasons that a manager shouldn't survive on principal, even if he has a shot of turning things around with some good signings in the summer. Heads need to roll for how utterly shite we've been.