Point out to me where I said that LVG getting sacked by Bayern was an indicator of how well he would do for us? fecking hell you come out with some daft stuff.
Of course coaching a national team is the same as coaching a club, if we are talking specifically about the
coaching aspect and the tactics. And this is the specific thing I was referring to - his style of play etc, nothing else. I mentioned that he may have appreciated Bruno for his ability to create. You said he'd hate him (even though this is the manager that wanted us to sign Neymar!). Another poster disagreed with you etc etc. You get less time with the players in an international setting, but he was with Netherlands for two years prior to the world cup. Yet apparently 'didn't have time to implement his style'...how convenient
Ok they weren't always dominant in possession, but I said perhaps he wasn't married to that idea and that maybe he did allow risk (why would he want Neymar or even Di Maria if he didn't want risk?). And I gave the example of him playing this football with a better outcome just 5 years prior. Though apparently 5 years is too long in football to be able to transfer a style of play. Well, Fergie did it for 27 years. Why didn't he forget what he was doing after 5 years? How has Pep transferred his style to multiple teams over 10+ years?
Fair enough if you hate LVG, he was a twat in my opinion and his football here was shit. But I just recognise why it was shit and that a maverick like Bruno with the ability to create may have been good for his team. I don't think it would have been particularly enjoyable to watch still, but probably more effective. Bruno is, afterall, the brains of the operation now under ETH.
M16 is wrong because the recruitment was poor. I responded to him for why I thought that. Look at the list of players signed under him and tell me it was good recruitment...
And yes, I did mention the 'signings we got him' because it was well documented how the process worked. He claimed he gave many options for each position, and the club came back always with the last option or, mostly, somebody else completely who was picked by Woodward or whoever. He wasn't involved with the process beyond identifying initial targets. But I think he was clearly expecting to, say, get his first choice in 'x' amount of positions and perhaps compromise in others. ETH, again it's been well documented, asked for control in transfers. There's the difference. The early period under Woodward was by far the worst for recruitment.
I'm not defending or lauding LVG. I made an observation that Bruno may have been good in his team for his ability to create, and said that it was possible he could have made him a more rounded player as he did with players we already had. By this I clearly meant in terms of their ability to keep possession, something we struggle with even to this day. But, mainly, my initial point was that I think this team is better than what LVG had (I've explained why in my response to M16) and that I can't decide if I disliked the period under LVG or ETH/Ole most. They've all been terrible. But at least I could say we had some element of control under LVG, as painful as it was to watch. But we had a tight defence
In good spirits I hope. I still am.