Way too early to say he looks shit imho. Let's judge properly once he has a run of games and gets accustomed to Chelsea's set up.
He looked really nervous.
He looked really nervous.
Álvaro Morata | Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Didn't he mainly play wide? I agree with you though, he hasn't shown he can be a no1 striker, even at Juve
The lad needs to start, that is the only way he will get going. We would be going crazy if Jose kept Lukaku sat on the bench.
Who would pay £75m for a bench warmer?
I didn't think he was that bad but he should've made it 2-0 really and then his penalty was poor. I agree with those saying he seems to be a bit nervous.
However he showed flashes of good hold up play and he did make some decent runs.
If I were a Chelsea fan I'd be far more worried about the collective performance today rather than just Morata.
However he showed flashes of good hold up play and he did make some decent runs.
If I were a Chelsea fan I'd be far more worried about the collective performance today rather than just Morata.
You're right, I though your point was that you "Don't think he can be a first choice for a team who want to win silverwares". No idea why I thought that.
Morata being better than Lukaku with the ball on the ground is the biggest myth of the summer.
The guy only played 15 minutes.
Plus Courtois penalty was natural to disturb the player shooting next.
If you want to blame someone for this defeat it's Pedro and Conte, not Morata.
Plus Courtois penalty was natural to disturb the player shooting next.
If you want to blame someone for this defeat it's Pedro and Conte, not Morata.
The posts in this thread before you were either saying that it's too early to criticise, he's a big step down from Costa or they're glad they got Lukaku. You can disagree with all of those points, but none of that is remotely similar to what you've said. Gotta' love a good ol' strawman.
He does look miserable to be at Chelsea though.
I still think thats the case. I always saw him as a second striker, not really one to play on the last man but rather the guy who benefits from the lay off.
Obviously United and Chelsea.
I saw a video of him scoring from behind the corner spot in training. Wicked zinger technique. He's not very bullish though. Giroud 2.0. It'll be interesting to see how he reacts after a run of games without scoring.
Looks to me like United paid £75m for the second best striker in the PL.
Ill what a few months before writing him off
No doubt he will score goals ,but i'm not so sure he will be as prolific enough this season.
Let us not be over critical of him. But have to say he looks dull , maybe not enjoying working with conte. Conte hasn't protected him the way jose has protected lukaku and pogba. Conte needs to manage him better.
Since Morata signed for Chelsea Conte has questioned his preparedness. Conte has also been reluctant to start him. A month ago he thought he was signing for Mourinho and Man Utd. You can see how that might affect his mindset.
I still think he's a quality player. Missing a penalty doesn't make you rubbish. However, with the way Conte is managing him I can see this move turning bad for Morata. It might just be a case of right move, wrong time.
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I won't disagree with that. I also don't think he's good enough yet to be a target man on his own. Having said that, I don't see anything in his game that might be better than Lukaku's. Just opinions of course.
Can't judge him on today. Was only on and they went down to 10. Chelsea's shape completely changed then. Penalty miss was unfortunate but he hit the bar.
no, I am anticipating the typical BS which is happening as we speak.
I wouldn't worry about it too much though
If I were a Chelsea fan I'd be worried with Conte's sudden outburst. He hasn't been speaking sense since the end of the last season. Critical of the board, critical of his new players, critical of other managers. Losing his first season magic already.
Wont write him off already but dont rate him that high as the caftards who thought he was world class as soon as he was linked to us. He'll probably come good but can flop for that price.
He wasn't first choice at Juve and that was probably because Conte didn't believe he could get the goals they needed to beat the majority of teams in the Serie A. He was the preferred option in tight games against top teams when his hold-up play, tactical understanding, workrate and involvement in the build-up were more important, but he only started 1/3 of games in the Serie A across two seasons for a reason.
It wouldn't be a huge surprise if he ends up playing a similar role for this team if Batshuayi scores a few goals and Morata struggles to hit the ground running.
It's astonishing how much he looks like a shy Ricky Martin.
Come on @Brwned that's a bit of an exaggeration.
He came on with less than 20mins to play and his team was down to 10 shortly after. Your concerns in the second part of the OP are valid but today was not a measure to judge him on at alll.
Conte was not manager at Juve when Morata was playing, was he? I don't think he managed him for a single game (I might be wrong).
From what I see his body language is very negative and he's not oozing any confidence. I'm sure once he starts scoring it'll get better but he is no Diego Costa who will bully the defence. I'm hoping he'll end up being another Torres for them.
Nope, you're right. My bad! The point remains though - he's never proven he can be a starter for a title-winning team.
Sounds like we're attempting to fabricate reasons why we were correct in not buying him.
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You've changed your story from "typical caftards saying x, y and z" to "ok so they're not saying it, but it's being implied" to "ok so it hasn't been implied but I'm anticipating it". That's quite something.
But the resident cafe experts told me that he's in the top 3 best available strikers in world football and had amazing stats, goals per minute galore.
Nah he's just plaininly shite and he'll be exposed as much as the season goes on.
Nah he's just plaininly shite and he'll be exposed as much as the season goes on.
That "Kolasinac" pronunciation by the commentatorHas someone said "wow bullet dodged" in this thread?
Chill out with your. Have another look at the video. Morata was the one in the middle, Cesc was towards the bottom of the image in on his own. Easy mistake by the commentator but it's probably better to check for yourself before getting childish about it.
Surely the only reason we were correct in not buying him was Mourinho wanted Lukaku more?
Classic BS kneejerking. The kid comes on for a few minutes and doesn't score in the Community Shield and this is somehow a thesis as to his quality.
Way too early obviously but I've always had the impression that he is better playing next to someone in a two. Or alone but dropping back and being close to others to link up.
I don't think he could do what Costa did at the Etihad last year for example. Doesn't mean he is a bad player but a different type and Conte will have to adjust the tactics accordingly.
I don't think he could do what Costa did at the Etihad last year for example. Doesn't mean he is a bad player but a different type and Conte will have to adjust the tactics accordingly.
I'm sure that's the convenient way to look at it now that we got Lukaku, but I doubt it was ever that simple. We were clearly interested in Morata as well.
I dont think anybody is, except for the obes that actually did think Morata suddebly became a (near) world class striker.
Nah Morata is quality but I don't think he'll ever reach 20 goals in the league as a main striker.