A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

Ole has a lot of quality in the squad, enough to do better than he has. That is an irrefutable fact, I think Poch can maximize much more with the players.
 
Look I think Poch could do well at United, but how the feck can any United fan not see this for what it is. The board fail Ole then leak stories about looking to go for Poch.... I mean its blatantly scapegoating Ole for their own failings. They will do the same to Poch and then scapegoat him.

Yup. May as well have briefed out the Director of Football thing again.
 
What i like about Poch is he has good track record of improving full backs, shaw and awb could do with his help.

Does he? He was well timed with Walker and Rose, he was also at the helm when Rose fell to shit and preferred Davies over him. He signed Trippier then sold him when Toby and Tripper fell out. There is one player who was the most important to Poch and Spurs and was the main reason to why his team fell apart.
 
Poch with the current transfer committee is a recipe for disaster. Spurs had an excellent scouting system that founded lot of young gems.

We absolutely need a DoF.
We are seemingly finding young gems now though (well it remains to be seen how the two new 18 year old wingers turn out).
 
Does he? He was well timed with Walker and Rose, he was also at the helm when Rose fell to shit and preferred Davies over him. He signed Trippier then sold him when Toby and Tripper fell out. There is one player who was the most important to Poch and Spurs and was the main reason to why his team fell apart.

Exactly. He would be a failure with AWB. With Williams or Laird , yes probably.

Also how many transfers he has recommended? Foyth being Argentinian, was it his recommendation?
 
We are seemingly finding young gems now though (well it remains to be seen how the two new 18 year old wingers turn out).

Not talking about 18 year old ones. The ones about to break through. The current team would suit him except the right full back and central defender.
 
Exactly. He would be a failure with AWB. With Williams or Laird , yes probably.

Also how many transfers he has recommended? Foyth being Argentinian, was it his recommendation?

Yes. Poch is a good manager, i loved him but he was infuriating at times. He had major favourites and continued to play players like Dele when they should have been dropped. He is cryptic as feck also.
 
Look I for one do not vouch for Ed or the glazers. However I do not want to hear anyone say ole has not been backed.

You don’t concede 11 goals against Crystal Palace, Brighton ( 5 posts ) and park the bus mourinho with a defence worth nearly 200 million. And 2 out of the 4 signing are ole’s... I don’t care if they had no pre season. That starting 11 are better then this. A good manager ( not past their best managers like LVG or Jose ) can get a lot more out of this squad!
The squad is starting to lose respect for the PE teacher. Do you really think any of them sit there and think ole will bring trophies to this club ?
No tactics just vibes
Bruno clearly papered over the cracks.


pull the plug and get him gone while there is still a chance to save this season.
 
Am a fan. After dealing with Pro-Jose and (admittedly few) Ole cultists I always wondered when it will finally be my turn to be on the giving end. Looking forward to being a Pro-Poch Cultist on here. Get behind the manager, not a true fan, hasn't been backed and all those phrases will soon be my turn. Hurrah
It is not working that way. Believe me, i know. Backed Jose first two seasons, defended him (not in deluded way) and was ripped apart from most of posters. Now that same posters who wanted Jose out tell me that i am not a fan because i want Ole out (and Poch in). So confused i am. :wenger:
 
It is not working that way. Believe me, i know. Backed Jose first two seasons, defended him (not in deluded way) and was ripped apart from most of posters. Now that same posters who wanted Jose out tell me that i am not a fan because i want Ole out (and Poch in). So confused i am. :wenger:

Ok, question, what Poch's style of play to you, what wil h improve if he comes and how will he lead you to success?
 
Woody and Ashton shitmongering again . Blame your failure's on Ole. Oleout fans don't worry it will be Pochout as soon as top4 is confirmed.
 
It is not working that way. Believe me, i know. Backed Jose first two seasons, defended him (not in deluded way) and was ripped apart from most of posters. Now that same posters who wanted Jose out tell me that i am not a fan because i want Ole out (and Poch in). So confused i am. :wenger:
All i know is if you don't support my preferred candidate you aren't a real fan and need to leave
 
Ok, question, what Poch's style of play to you, what wil h improve if he comes and how will he lead you to success?
We have the worst coach in PL who is not even PL material. I would even take Moyes back now instead of Solskjaer. But Poch is no1 wish. I like his man management and style of play. We have much better team that he had in Spurs. And with that team we play like small team. Sit deep and wait for counters. Without any progress in two years. I am sick of it. With Poch i will again enjoy in United games.
 
This is seriously small-time and shameless from Woody to do this on deadline day when it's his failure that created this mess. They made out all along that top 4 = Sancho, Ole achieved his end of the bargain getting 3rd and they've shafted him big time instead. That's 3 managers on the bounce they've done this to now.

Why would Poch even consider coming here to work under these despicable owners? Anyone stopped to think about that?
 
This is seriously small-time and shameless from Woody to do this on deadline day when it's his failure that created this mess. They made out all along that top 4 = Sancho, Ole achieved his end of the bargain getting 3rd and they've shafted him big time.

Why would Poch even consider coming here to work under these despicable owners?
With Ed he will at least know that he is safe next two years no matter what:lol:
 
We have the worst coach in PL who is not even PL material. I would even take Moyes back now instead of Solskjaer. But Poch is no1 wish. I like his man management and style of play. We have much better team that he had in Spurs. And with that team we play like small team. Sit deep and wait for counters. Without any progress in two years. I am sick of it. With Poch i will again enjoy in United games.

Did you watch us in the first season under Poch? You have to remember he inherited a back 5, Lloris included, he also inherited Kane. Trust me I loved Poch and what he stood for but he is possibly the most stubborn coach I have seen, I think he would do well but it will not be a quick fix.
 
I'd take Poch and jump on the Ole out train if it meant we had a DOF to work with him.

If the plan is more of Woodward n Judge and just change the manager then I don't see anything changing much.
 
This is seriously small-time and shameless from Woody to do this on deadline day when it's his failure that created this mess. They made out all along that top 4 = Sancho, Ole achieved his end of the bargain getting 3rd and they've shafted him big time instead. That's 3 managers on the bounce they've done this to now.

Why would Poch even consider coming here to work under these despicable owners? Anyone stopped to think about that?
A BIG fat contract and huge paid out after being kick out by Ed will do actually for any coach available in the market waiting for offer. Seriously.

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the best thing is now everyone and his dog knows if the coach fail it is Ed's fault so it won't affect the coach's reputation.
 
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I'd take Poch and jump on the Ole out train if it meant we had a DOF to work with him.

If the plan is more of Woodward n Judge and just change the manager then I don't see anything changing much.

Poch doesn't want a DoF. When Mitchell left, he got a new contract making him the manager. IMO Poch is waiting for PSG.
 
A BIG fat contract and huge paid out after being kick out by Ed will do actually for any coach available in the market waiting for offer. Seriously.
Mourinho did get a decent payout for his troubles... but seriously i can't see why any up and coming manager would take us on. It's an impossible task under these owners.
 
Did you watch us in the first season under Poch? You have to remember he inherited a back 5, Lloris included, he also inherited Kane. Trust me I loved Poch and what he stood for but he is possibly the most stubborn coach I have seen, I think he would do well but it will not be a quick fix.
I remember his first season and your defence was one of the worst in the league the season before he joined. They were young and had potential, but he made them into what they were.
 
I remember his first season and your defence was one of the worst in the league the season before he joined. They were young and had potential, but he made them into what they were.

He was dug out by Kane! And he made the team a possession team. What do you mean they were young, most were mature players. Poch's game plan was press and keep position, first season was sideways and backwards. We had probbaly the best first team for 2 seasons in the league and every time we got to win something we imploded.
 
Poch could be able to name his price come christmas, which would be a good thing - he may insist on working with a proper DOF, and not some jumped up banker on a power trip.
I'd take Poch and jump on the Ole out train if it meant we had a DOF to work with him.

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Poch doesn't want a DoF. When Mitchell left, he got a new contract making him the manager. IMO Poch is waiting for PSG.

To correctly slightly, I'm pretty sure Poch wanted rid of Baldini and then Mitchell came in, and either Poch wasn't keen or they fell out, because Poch moaned about a DoF again and they put Mitchell on gardening leave until he left.

Seriously, if there's any two single things that a BS about poch it's that he has any sort of agent or 'representatives', and that he would work with a DoF. I'm pretty sure he'd fall out with United even on the topic of keeping Carrick or McKenna (or, basically, anyone that isn't Jesus, D'Agostino or Jiminez) in the first team staff.
 
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To correctly slightly, I'm pretty sure Poch wanted rid of Baldini and then Mitchell came in, and either Poch wasn't keen or they fell out, because Poch moaned about a DoF again and they put Mitchell on gardening leave until he left.

Seriously, if there's any two single things that a BS about poch it's that he has any sort of agent or 'representatives', and that he would work with a DoF. I'm pretty sure he'd fall out with United even on the topic of keeping Carrick or McKenna (or, basically, anyone that isn't Jesus, D'Agostino or Jiminez) in the first team staff.

Oh I agree, you take Poch u take all his backroom staff. And yes Poch is his own man, and I respected him for it.
 
His reputation has been inflated by half-truths and myths that his fans have accepted as fact.

Then there's also the issue of his stubbornness, falling out with players, disliking (and ignoring) players for seemingly no reason, making selections based on how well he likes a player rather than on merit, never had a plan B. He's a good coach, but he also has a few major flaws. If we were to get rid of Ole, then I don't think Poch is the right man to replace him.
What i like about Poch is he has good track record of improving full backs, shaw and awb could do with his help.
Does he? Walker was good before him, Davies was always fairly average, Trippier was just as good for Burnley as he was for Spurs, Yedlin went nowhere, Aurier is exactly the same player he was at PSG. Rose became a really good player under him for a while there, but then also fell apart under, and fell out with him.
 
Look I think Poch could do well at United, but how the feck can any United fan not see this for what it is. The board fail Ole then leak stories about looking to go for Poch.... I mean its blatantly scapegoating Ole for their own failings. They will do the same to Poch and then scapegoat him.

While you do have a point to what extent would have signing Sancho for example have changed the result against yourselves or us losing to Palace ? Players looking disinterested despite having a longer rest period during the Spurs fixture. Our poor start to the season is sole on the manager.

Woodward and co are responsible for the terrible infrastructure of the club not entirely for the results that are occurring on it. Shaw saying we need players backs up the sentiment that the manager is not motivating the team properly.