JustAFan
The Adebayo Akinfenwa of football photoshoppers
See my edit, turns out Guardian now saying it is a false alarm, that their source turned out to be a fake twitter account
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Fecking Guardian and fecking twitter!See my edit, turns out Guardian now saying it is a false alarm, that their source turned out to be a fake twitter account
We'd probably get £14 million? You don't half spew some bollocks on this site.If there was any kind of reasonable offer for him it'd be better to sell him now. Probably wouldn't get half what was paid for him, but at least it could go towards getting a player the manager does trust.
That's a fair point but there have been plenty of times we've looked like we could do with him in the middle of the park, even as a substitution, where it just hasn't happened at all. That and the reports that van Gaal doesn't appear to rate him much, I think it's clearly more than just being a bit behind in the pecking order right now.Talk of selling him is a bit melodramatic. He's just behind players who've been better than him this season. The pecking order is understandable but might change in time.
I'm not exactly sure Mata or Fellaini have been better tbh.Talk of selling him is a bit melodramatic. He's just behind players who've been better than him this season. The pecking order is understandable but might change in time.
They have though. By quite a margin too.I'm not exactly sure Mata or Fellaini have been better tbh.
At least Fellaini is rated and is playing, which is the point. Why bother paying the fees we are paying for players we either have no idea how to use or just don't work for us? We are wasting a lot of money, if this carries on and I really hope I'm wrong. I hope he plays or finds his place, because he's a very good player in my eyes and not because of his fee, but if he doesn't, we could have used the money we paid for him differently.What does his price have to do with anything? Conversely, Fellaini cost 27m so he has to play as well.
A much of a muchness, generally. All have contributed, all have had good games and all have had a couple of iffy ones. I'd throw in Di Maria alongside them, to be honest.I'm not exactly sure Mata or Fellaini have been better tbh.
Mata I think has had very good games and very poor games. Same with Fellani, and thats the same with Herrera tooThey have though. By quite a margin too.
Yeah I agree with that tbhA much of a muchness, generally. All have contributed, all have had good games and all have had a couple of iffy ones. I'd throw in Di Maria alongside them, to be honest.
Only Blind has consistently impressed in midfield for us, I think.
VG didn't choose him though. Just because he consented to a purchase his new chairman wanted to make doesn't mean he feels any pressure to make the signing work.I concur. Even if Athletic offered to take him on loan or Valencia offered to pay €10m for him it would be reasonable to let him leave. He's serving no purpose here and it is clear as a day now that he will not feature much.
Extremely bad management from van Gaal to agree to spend £30m and then refuse to play him at all.
Not everyone can be in the starting XI. Fellaini, Mata, Di Maria, and Rooney all cost as much or more than him so his cost is irrelevant. We want to be the best team in the world so we need top players throughout the squad and Ander offers that.At least Fellaini is rated and is playing, which is the point. Why bother paying the fees we are paying for players we either have no idea how to use or just don't work for us? We are wasting a lot of money, if this carries on and I really hope I'm wrong. I hope he plays or finds his place, because he's a very good player in my eyes and not because of his fee, but if he doesn't, we could have used the money we paid for him differently.
Not sure how you can say Mata has, he's also had lots more games to impress in. Fellaini I'd agree with because his chances were limited and he definitely took them.They have though. By quite a margin too.
Hererra hasn't had good games though. Good moments but not good games. At a push, he's had one good 90. Against the worst QPR performance I've ever seen. He's generally been someoene who might look good in highlights but makes a lot of errors too.Mata I think has had very good games and very poor games. Same with Fellani, and thats the same with Herrera too
He is behind a striker when it comes to picking the midfield. He's not even a part of rotation.Talk of selling him is a bit melodramatic. He's just behind players who've been better than him this season. The pecking order is understandable but might change in time.
Mata will have impressed Van Gaal with his ball retention. Arguably Hererra's achilles heel.Not sure how you can say Mata has, he's also had lots more games to impress in. Fellaini I'd agree with because his chances were limited and he definitely took them.
Really? That's not what the average ratings say (just a loose barometer I know) . Mata has blown hot and cold and Fellaini has been a big improvement this season but is still rather average for a side like United. Herrera has been generally good when he has played, bar that game when he tried to play through a broken rib. I just don't get it I really don't. We sign a proper midfielder who can do a bit of everything and seems to have a good, intelligent head on his shoulders and then proceed to exclude him. He's even come up with some cracking goals which we didn't know he had in his arsenal when he arrived.They have though. By quite a margin too.
I'm not sure how that means he's been better than him though? Hasn't our constant need to try and keep the ball and bore the opposition to death been one of our biggest problems? At least Herrera's direct.Mata will have impressed Van Gaal with his ball retention. Arguably Hererra's achilles heel.
Not really. Early into the season Herrera was mostly very good. Fellaini has been good and had limited chances, Mata has played even when he was poor and still got plenty more opportunities than Herrera. I don't think Herrera has been given anywhere near enough of a chance.They have though. By quite a margin too.
Caf ratings have always been a bad way to judge players. The love-in with players like Anderson, Hernandez and Kagawa continued long past the point it was obvious they had no future here (not that this applies to Hererra - the no future bit, that is)Really? That's not what the average ratings say. Mata has blown hot and cold and Fellaini has been a big improvement this season but is still rather average for a side like United. Herrera has been generally good when he has played, bar that game when he tried to play through a broken rib. I just don't get it I really don't. We sign a proper midfielder who can do a bit of everything and seems to have a good, intelligent head on his shoulders and then proceed to exclude him. He's even come up with some cracking goals which we didn't know he had in his arsenal when he arrived.
Assuming he's only rated as an attacking midfielder, which it looks like, where is his place in the squad then? We've more than enough players for that position. I'm not saying we should sell, which would be silly, but I just don't see how he currently fits in in the squad and I'm not even talking about the starting XI.Not everyone can be in the starting XI. Fellaini, Mata, Di Maria, and Rooney all cost as much or more than him so his cost is irrelevant. We want to be the best team in the world so we need top players throughout the squad and Ander offers that.
Yes, of course. I'll stick up for Mata and slag Herrera off because... Spanish?Not really. Early into the season Herrera was mostly very good. Fellaini has been good and had limited chances, Mata has played even when he was poor and still got plenty more opportunities than Herrera. I don't think Herrera has been given anywhere near enough of a chance.
Like with Di Maria though you are bound to prefer other players to him.
Yeah but he's been guilty of some shocking lapses in his passing, and not exactly made up for it by providing telling through ball/slide-rule passes. Mind you, I also think Mata has been guilty of playing the safe option a bit too much, but on balance, I think he has outperformed Herrera (although their roles haven't been identical.)I'm not sure how that means he's been better than him though? Hasn't our constant need to try and keep the ball and bore the opposition to death been one of our biggest problems? At least Herrera's direct.
Really? I don't remember that run of good form at the beginning of the season, except for in the QPR match and the first half of the Leicester match.Not really. Early into the season Herrera was mostly very good. Fellaini has been good and had limited chances, Mata has played even when he was poor and still got plenty more opportunities than Herrera. I don't think Herrera has been given anywhere near enough of a chance.
Like with Di Maria though you are bound to prefer other players to him.
He's probably outperformed him because he's played shitloads more than him. Mata, by his standards, has only really been satisfactory this season. I mean obviously he's a better player than Herrera and therefore it makes more sense to persist with him, I just don't think you can say he's been the better of the two if you include the fact that he's played twice as many games.Yeah but he's been guilty of some shocking lapses in his passing, and not exactly made up for it by providing telling through ball/slide-rule passes. Mind you, I also think Mata has been guilty of playing the safe option a bit too much, but on balance, I think he has outperformed Herrera (although their roles haven't been identical.)
He was good first half vs West Ham too, then he got injured and was out of the team. That is the point, he actually hasn't played a lot of football.Really? I don't remember that run of good form at the beginning of the season, except for in the QPR match and the first half of the Leicester match.
Nope, you were actually pretty harsh on Mata when he was very popular on here. You have actually started to like him more when people have begun to lose patience with his inconsistency. It's the thing with you, you mostly don't like players who are popular among fans here.Yes, of course. I'll stick up for Mata and slag Herrera off because... Spanish?
Who would you give him games instead of if not Mata though?He's probably outperformed him because he's played shitloads more than him. Mata, by his standards, has only really been satisfactory this season. I mean obviously he's a better player than Herrera and therefore it makes more sense to persist with him, I just don't think you can say he's been the better of the two if you include the fact that he's played twice as many games.
I don't think Mata should be dropped for him or anything, but surely we could give Herrera more chances in the team than we currently are. He's barely had a sniff.
Funnily enough that is the only EPL game he has actually played 90 minutes.Hererra hasn't had good games though. Good moments but not good games. At a push, he's had one good 90. Against the worst QPR performance I've ever seen. He's generally been someoene who might look good in highlights but makes a lot of errors too.
I still think he's got a chance but he's not adapted to the pace and physicality of the PL at all. Hopefully he'll step up in season two. Still quite young too.
Well we've had chances to drop the 3-5-2 and put another midfielder in, we've had chances to give him 30 minutes in games we could have used him in. We've been using Rooney in midfield to accommodate under-performing Falcao/RvP upfront.Who would you give him games instead of if not Mata though?
Fecking hell. We've gone over this before. You're talking out your hole. I "don't like" players I think aren't playing well. I end up pointing this out more often if they're gettting (undeserved) praise. No need for any psychoanalysis. Especially when Paddy Evra was one of my favourite ever players at a time when he was being called 'God'.Nope, you were actually pretty harsh on Mata when he was very popular on here. You have actually started to like him more when people have begun to lose patience with his inconsistency. It's the thing with you, you mostly don't like players who are popular among fans here.
Indeed. Not lasting 90 minutes is rarely a good sign, when judging performances. Managers tend to leave the players who are playing well on the pitch.Funnily enough that is the only EPL game he has actually played 90 minutes.