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Scorpy

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Calling his season average is one of the stranger things I've read here. Even stranger coming from a decent poster.
This. I don't get how he's been average. He moved from the French league at 19 years old and immediately became our best attacker by a country mile, received the Golden Boy award and is rightfully regarded as one of the best and most talented young players in the world. He's mostly been playing on the left, yet he's got 13 goals and 7 assists and if his teammates weren't so fecking useless, the stats would have been even more impressive. He's had some quiet games, but who doesn't? Especially at 19-20.

I guess he's average for having to come up against 2-3 opponents every time he touches the ball as our tactics are something along the lines of "pass it to Martial and stand still like utter morons." Funny thing is - he doesn't always come out of situations like that with the ball, but he still does quite often and it's fecking magical. His run yesterday brought a smile to my face and it's not the first time he's done it either.

Maybe people were expecting Messi when we signed him. In that case, yeah, he's been average.
 

gza the genius

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He's constantly offered the only bright spots in our games. His consistency has gone down some but he's also played almost every game the entire season.

LVG blaming him for the Spurs loss is insanity, he creates a chance (the only real chance) all on his own and gets criticized for not scoring. I guess he would've been better off just not creating a chance in the first place? Seems that would've been better in LVG's mind anyway.
 

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He needs to improve shooting and he hopefully will because that is his main weakness so far and something he hasn't changed since Monaco. It's not powerful and not precise enough at the moment.
 

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Rumours his wife has gone back to France and they have split due to her being homesick....
Home sick even though France is a 1.2 hour flight? Jesus.. it takes me that exact time to get from my Home house to my college house and not by first class :lol:
 

TrustInJanuzaj

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Martial has been closer to world class than he has to average! A shining light in a terrible season. the supply and movement in this team is some of the worst I've ever seen and yet martial still produces at least a chance a game.
 

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According to rumours, Martial went with another girl on some date and shagged her as well, apparently they've removed their photo's where they are together on Instagram as well. There seems to be some truth in it.
Ffs :lol:
 

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He has not had an average season if we're assessing expectations realistically. The way he's played has given us hope that he's going to be a world class player, but some are now reassessing his season by those exacting standards, which is unfair.

He has consistently been the only bright spot in our games, and seems to be the only player that actually makes something happen. Our game plan is basically get the ball to Martial and hope he does the rest. It's a testament to his quality and impact this season, but it's also hindering the player himself. He cannot and shouldn't be the only attacking outlet.
 

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He has not had an average season if we're assessing expectations realistically. The way he's played has given us hope that he's going to be a world class player, but some are now reassessing his season by those exacting standards, which is unfair.

He has consistently been the only bright spot in our games, and seems to be the only player that actually makes something happen. Our game plan is basically get the ball to Martial and hope he does the rest. It's a testament to his quality and impact this season, but it's also hindering the player himself. He cannot and shouldn't be the only attacking outlet.
Agreed
 

glazed

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If I was a 19 year old millionaire I wouldn't be that mad to settle down with a family either.
 

WhoDaGOAT

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Giggsy taught him well.

Players get married too young because they are often advised by managers and old pros to settle down young and focus on their game.

It's a good idea in theory, but leaves them open to a possible crucification when they stray from home or step out of line.

They should stay single and bang as many as these escorts, models and socialites for as long as they want until they're nearing the end of their playing days.

Defoe has been with every girl in London and still had a good career. He wasn't harassed over it either.
 

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They split because he apparently shagged some bird from the X factor
 

JPRouve

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Everytime I try to take an interest in the players personal life, I end up angry and confused.
 

Jev

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Doesn't quite look right tonight to me. Is it just me? It's strange.
Think he's been average lately. Quite wasteful, overdribbles too often. It's clear he feels like he has to carry the team. Admittedly that has been the case quite a few times but nonetheless, with Rooney coming back, maybe he could do with a couple of games on the bench just to wake him up a bit.
 

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I feel I must bge watching someone else as I think he's been good the last couple of games and was good tonight with 2 assists, I think his performance went up a notch when he moved central and was acting as a false 9, feeding in Lingard and Rashford, he's forming a good understanding with the latter.
 

WhoDaGOAT

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He's not quite fine tuned at the moment. He's always a threat but his sharpness is costing him even more goals and assists.

He did well overall though. Basically 2 assists and was unlucky not to score himself.

I do worry about the amount of games he's played this season, with Euro 2016 still to come.
 

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21 goals/assists in his first season where he's had to carry the attack, in 42 appearances.

Great first season. Under a better manager next year he could close to double that I think.
 

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Done very well in a team with very little attacking threat imo. Happy he seems more greedy. Needs to shoot some more. Would have been ridiculous if he scored against Spurs after that run. Needs to do more of that.
 

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I think he might have scored today if he'd gotten a pass on a couple of counters. Good positioning at LW on those, but the reverse ball wasn't played.

How many players in the world would you swap him for, considering his age?

I think he'd be #3 on my value list behind Neymar (24 and damn near a goal a game from LW, also carries Brazil) and Messi (28 but I think he'll be a brilliant CM/10 once he's 32-33 and can't play wide anymore) and just ahead of Pogba (similar, but far more potential than Koke, though he's also filled with Gallic ennui which might concern me), Verratti (can play as a 6 or as an 8, has 10+ years left and is incredible) and Koke (24, so maybe 9-10 more years of top CM play). De Bruyne loses points for being a 10 (have to build around him to get the best out of him and can't really play a normal 4-3-3, whereas the first 4 names fit any formation perfectly) and Alaba loses points since fullbacks are sometimes cheap enough that you might be able to replace 80% of what he gives you a bit easier. But he's got 10 years of greatness left too.

I think that's the first tier when you look at age + production, unless I'm missing someone. Seems wrong to have no Germans named.
 

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I do think he flatters to deceive some times and could be more effective but then I remember his age and cut him some slack, not his fault we spent a fortune on him.
 

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I think he might have scored today if he'd gotten a pass on a couple of counters. Good positioning at LW on those, but the reverse ball wasn't played.

How many players in the world would you swap him for, considering his age?

I think he'd be #3 on my value list behind Neymar (24 and damn near a goal a game from LW, also carries Brazil) and Messi (28 but I think he'll be a brilliant CM/10 once he's 32-33 and can't play wide anymore) and just ahead of Pogba (similar, but far more potential than Koke, though he's also filled with Gallic ennui which might concern me), Verratti (can play as a 6 or as an 8, has 10+ years left and is incredible) and Koke (24, so maybe 9-10 more years of top CM play). De Bruyne loses points for being a 10 (have to build around him to get the best out of him and can't really play a normal 4-3-3, whereas the first 4 names fit any formation perfectly) and Alaba loses points since fullbacks are sometimes cheap enough that you might be able to replace 80% of what he gives you a bit easier. But he's got 10 years of greatness left too.

I think that's the first tier when you look at age + production, unless I'm missing someone. Seems wrong to have no Germans named.
It was frustrating wasn't it. Whenever he gets the ball he is usally marked by two, but during the few occasions he has acres of space Herrera fecks up a simple pass, Lingard doesn't look up and passes to Rashford who was running in a far worse shooting angle and Fellaini does the same as Lingard not much later.
 

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It was frustrating wasn't it. Whenever he gets the ball he is usally marked by two, but during the few occasions he has acres of space Herrera fecks up a simple pass, Lingard doesn't look up and passes to Rashford who was running in a far worse shooting angle and Fellaini does the same as Lingard not much later.
I'm just happy we seem to have a wide goalscorer again. Haven't since Ronaldo left. Arsenal went damn near 10 trophyless years without one between Pires getting old and Sanchez arriving. Spurs haven't had one in the history of the Prem.
 

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Will get double figures goals and assists before the season is done. For most of the season, he was the only player teams bothered to mark.
 

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21 goals/assists in his first season where he's had to carry the attack, in 42 appearances.

Great first season. Under a better manager next year he could close to double that I think.
Considering that he never had a pre-season with us, his age, being in a new country and the shit that he has played alongside in addition to, as you say, a deranged manager who shifted him around he has done very well.
 

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Should rest him a bit. He's played a lot.
I'd love to, but you just can't not play him. He takes two defenders or at least a defender and a winger tracking back out the game! You can't say the same about Depay who would replace him!
 

Kevin

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Considering that he never had a pre-season with us, his age, being in a new country and the shit that he has played alongside in addition to, as you say, a deranged manager who shifted him around he has done very well.
He's been average this season according to some.
 

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His wife have now dropped the Martial name from her Instagram account.

Edit: Oh, beaten to it.
 

Cassidy

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He has been, what he has done this season is half of what he is able to do.
I don't think hes been average tbh, I think he has just not had the support around him. Its obvious he has a lot more in his locker though
 
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