I was just thinking this
People are nuts!
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People are nuts!It's peak caf when we have two players fighting for a spot. It should be a good selection headache, but on here it becomes a polarised debate with camps for each player.
Martial was the buy, Rashford was the serendipity, enjoy both for the slightly different game they have! I think Martial fans have become combative because of the insecurity surrounding his long term future in the manager's plans. Unfounded in my opinion. It's normal ebb and flow of a young talent and the expected inconsistency that comes with that, Jose is working around it.
Martial was the buy, Rashford was the serendipity, enjoy both for the slightly different game they have! I think Martial fans have become combative because of the insecurity surrounding his long term future in the manager's plans. Unfounded in my opinion. It's normal ebb and flow of a young talent and the expected inconsistency that comes with that, Jose is working around it.
I'm also of the belief that Martial is the more talented of the two, but so what? We all know talent only takes you so far. To think that because Martial is more talented than Rashford means that he should be ahead of him is silly. There are so many other factors that trumps talent in the making of a successful career. There are definitely some people here with short memories of how dangerous Martial can be (was the 15/16 season that long ago?), or the fact that he hasn't played much and was given sporadic time to make an impact on games when Mourinho took over.
However, I think there has to be a reason that we don't see as to why Martial was not playing as much as his talent dictates. To me, that falls back to the training ground where we don't necessarily knows what happens but believe me, Jose Mourinho is under pressure like any head coach at a big club, and it's in his best interest to use the best players he has available, if he didn't with Martial last season I feel the blame falls more on Martial than simply Jose having a problem with him.
However, I think there has to be a reason that we don't see as to why Martial was not playing as much as his talent dictates. To me, that falls back to the training ground where we don't necessarily knows what happens but believe me, Jose Mourinho is under pressure like any head coach at a big club, and it's in his best interest to use the best players he has available, if he didn't with Martial last season I feel the blame falls more on Martial than simply Jose having a problem with him.
One of the rare time I've seen or heard Mourinho said something complimentary about Martial without sounding like he has to PR his way into saying those things.
Hopefully much positive comes from this. Martial keeping his head down while working hard with some patience and Mourinho putting in some faith in the lad and giving him some leeway and fairer management.
Andc hopefully these talks of wanting Perisic because he's some old school winger would finally die. He was wanted because of the wingback system.
I kept saying that old school wingers don't exist anymore and what your Martial, Neymar, Hazard, Robben,Ronaldo etc are what currently considered wingers. Managers know this and all these talks of people saying we need old school wingers and all that bla were just assuming in Jose's place.
Jose himself knows he has what would be considered in today's game PURE wingers and Perisic purchase was mostly because of trying to play with wingbacks.
I kept saying that old school wingers don't exist anymore and what your Martial, Neymar, Hazard, Robben,Ronaldo etc are what currently considered wingers. Managers know this and all these talks of people saying we need old school wingers and all that bla were just assuming in Jose's place.
Jose himself knows he has what would be considered in today's game PURE wingers and Perisic purchase was mostly because of trying to play with wingbacks.
If we do still sign a wingback, I'd like to see us play 343.
Would be a way of getting Rashford and Martial playing as pure attackers and still maintaining width.
Would be a way of getting Rashford and Martial playing as pure attackers and still maintaining width.
Got him in my starting lineup for tomorrow with Rashford being the sub this time around. Hoping he continues the positive impact he made last time and lights up the game over an extended period of time.
Yeah this has always exaggerated in my opinion. Jose has a history of publicly criticising and/or dropping players with the deliberate intention of motivating them to improve. He certainly thinks Martial has things to improve on, but he knows how talented he is and certainly sees him as an asset. The idea that he doesn't like him is a completely constructed one.
Good words from the boss. It seems that he sees the improvements of Martial and also Mkhi, Rashford etc. and that they seem to have a good understanding with Lukaku (better than with a static striker like Ibra) and therefore the need to bring in another attacker right is not too urgent.
We have the backbone with Matic-Pogba and Lukaku and a lot of options for the other positions depending on the opponent and situation.
We have the backbone with Matic-Pogba and Lukaku and a lot of options for the other positions depending on the opponent and situation.
Swansea 0:4 Man Utd
Exactly this!
I'm sorry but Rashford isn't on the same level as this guy just yet
His dribbling at defenders in central positions has opened up alot of space
His finishing looks so easy.
Looks really fired up. Great goal
Great goal. Putting his marker down, looks proper motivated
He need to be starting.
Making his claim to start. Excellent run and finish.
How many more does he need to start ahead of Rashford?
He's far superior tp Marcus 3 chances for 1 goal Rashford
Martial 
He's the calmest finisher we have. Not fazed once he sees white of keepers eyes
Amazing. That's what he's capable of. Super sub!
Super finish
Fantastic composure and balance. Loved the passion in the celebration as well!!
Lovely finish. Hard to say at the moment, whether he deserves to start ahead of Rashford considering he has been so impactful coming of the bench
Play him up top with lukaku next game!
Rashford is a talent but Martial is miles ahead of him at his best. Deserves to start next game.
He's fecking deadly. Really seems to have woken up this season.
He better start next game! Looks a lot more hungry this season. I think the tough love from Jose has done it
This. Rashford annoyed me today.
Agreed. Both are great players to have but I think martial has the higher ceiling
Talk about forcing Jose to start him. Excellent so far. I know it's a cliche but looks far more hungry.
What a beast! Looked determined from the very start.
Mourinho will like this. He's been dropped at the start of the season, kept on the bench despite a goal and has come on and got another. It's that attitude Mourinho has been after.
Great run and finish for his goal, what we need to see more from him. Keep it up Anthony lad.
He smiles when he scores
He smiles when he scores
Tony Martial
He only smiles when he scores
He smiles when he scores
Tony Martial
He only smiles when he scores
A reminder of his talent to all the nay sayers. He's one of the most talented players in the world never mind United.
nah, mata is
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