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We have the two best fullbacks in the league right now. Both providing great outlets. Great to see both working so hard for the team.
You are coming across as David Brent Nobby! Not saying you're wrong but the way you're saying it is pretty meh!It´s not holier than thou, it´s just bloody obvious, and credit to you, that in your post, you did sort of get the idea. And yes, this cliche poor positioning sense is debatable. It just gets repeated over and over again without real justice. Feel free with actual video or specific instances, other than one off gaffes like vs Wolfiesburg last year, to demonstrate. While I love Shaw, I find him far more suspect, but never hear a thing about it.
It doesn't matter whether it is a cliche or not. It also doesn't matter whether Jose wants Valencia playing higher up the pitch. My point still stands - Valencia is often out of position and leaves a massive space at RB, which will be exploited by a fast, skillful winger.You guys just don´t get it, do you? Of course Mourinho isn´t going to correct it, it´s Jose who is positioning him there. Isn´t this obvious? He positions Shaw like that as well. It´s been very noticeable this year.
While I don´t necessarily agree with this tactic, it is plainly Mourinho´s doing. Any manager would´ve corrected this one time, unless of course they were the ones setting the defence this way. I knew there would be the knee jerk responses of the cliche "Valencia lack of positioning" bollocks.
So on your basis Shaw is caught out of position too because he's also doing the same thing as Valencia on the other sideIt doesn't matter whether it is a cliche or not. It also doesn't matter whether Jose wants Valencia playing higher up the pitch. My point still stands - Valencia is often out of position and leaves a massive space at RB, which will be exploited by a fast, skillful winger.
He was brilliant in the derby last season completely neutralizing Sterling(who had just scored a hatrick a week prior)The derby will be the first big test for him if he starts the match.
This has definitely been true at times in the past, but it seems an odd time to say it given how perfect his defensive work was yesterday. Not only was he doing a textbook job in his own area but he even found time to fly across to cover a couple of Bailly errors too.It doesn't matter whether it is a cliche or not. It also doesn't matter whether Jose wants Valencia playing higher up the pitch. My point still stands - Valencia is often out of position and leaves a massive space at RB, which will be exploited by a fast, skillful winger.
He actually does better against fast wingers as their pace isn't much of a strength against him.It doesn't matter whether it is a cliche or not. It also doesn't matter whether Jose wants Valencia playing higher up the pitch. My point still stands - Valencia is often out of position and leaves a massive space at RB, which will be exploited by a fast, skillful winger.
I would agree with you. I don´t like Valencia´s nor Shaw´s positioning under Mourinho either. But it´s not a higher up the pitch thing, it is playing them almost as centre halves, way inside, leaving more work for our midfielders, and more space for opposing wingers. But the cliche arguments keep coming off as that it´s Valencia´s fault for his positioning, or as the typical footballing genius here will say, he´s a a winger and not a "natural fullback," he does not understand the right back position. Both he and Shaw are clearly playing where Jose is placing them.It doesn't matter whether it is a cliche or not. It also doesn't matter whether Jose wants Valencia playing higher up the pitch. My point still stands - Valencia is often out of position and leaves a massive space at RB, which will be exploited by a fast, skillful winger.
He was talking about Shaw iirc^^He had a good game last night.
Also, one thing which Giggs said on the telly was that Valencia is immensely (naturally) strong.
Valencia doesn't do much weights, yet he is able to bench 120KG (I think that's what he said). And has very strong legs, too.
I guess you could say that he is a natural athlete.
Hell, I can bench 120kgs and I'm hardly an athlete. John Arne Riise could bench 120kgs. I'm really surprised if Valencia can't bench at least 140-150.He had a good game last night.
Also, one thing which Giggs said on the telly was that Valencia is immensely (naturally) strong.
Valencia doesn't do much weights, yet he is able to bench 120KG (I think that's what he said). And has very strong legs, too.
I guess you could say that he is a natural athlete.
That was Shaw.He had a good game last night.
Also, one thing which Giggs said on the telly was that Valencia is immensely (naturally) strong.
Valencia doesn't do much weights, yet he is able to bench 120KG (I think that's what he said). And has very strong legs, too.
I guess you could say that he is a natural athlete.
As much as I love Mata, what we should be saying instead is, Valencia will compliment 'any decent intelligent wide player' and that spot should really be Miki.Really owned the right flank and it was great to see his confidence and ability even when isolated in attack. I think he complements Mata excellently.
I mean that he complements Mata in that any full-back that plays behind him needs to provide that wide threat. Mata and Darmian is a terrible combination, for example. With Mkhi I'd expect Valencia would have more support out wide and they could interchange one-twos, but Mkhi could probably work in front of Darmian as well.As much as I love Mata, what we should be saying instead is, Valencia will compliment 'any decent intelligent wide player' and that spot should really be Miki.
Looks like a new player under Jose. Have to give LVG credit too. Valencia as well for embrassing a new position. Looks to be producing the same form as when we first signed him. Happy if he's first choice for the next 1-2 seasons while we look for a successor.If he can carry over these kind of performances to big games, I'll be very satisfied with Tony V as our main RB for the next 1-3 years.
Herrera probably thinks Cadburys is as good as Lindt too.
I thought you were saying Valencia has been embarrassing in RB and was about to let rip I really should be getting to sleep soon.Looks like a new player under Jose. Have to give LVG credit too. Valencia as well for embrassing a new position. Looks to be producing the same form as when we first signed him. Happy if he's first choice for the next 1-2 seasons while we look for a successor.
Silly boy that Ander, particularly since there is much better chocolate here than Lindt too!Herrera probably thinks Cadburys is as good as Lindt too.
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