Not great, but to be fair to him, he helped Shaw put in an MOTM performance.
ThisHe wasn't bad, but today showed his limitations and why we need better than him.
Yep agree with this a good squad player but not a starter if we want to be at the top table!He wasn't bad, but today showed his limitations and why we need better than him.
Well that's obviously not true.Just a painfully average footballer.
Agreed.Such a strange reaction... He had been our standout player for many games before this one and Mourinho obviously set up the team to nullify him.
Which actually gave Shaw an opportunity to shine.
Well that just wasn't obvious at all. Clearly the space to attack them, particularly in the first half, was down the left and Young seemed timid and was happy to pass it back instead of attacking Ivanovic. He had a standout performance against City, against Villa he was very wasteful and did absolutely nothing going forward against Liverpool.Such a strange reaction... He had been our standout player for many games before this one and Mourinho obviously set up the team to nullify him.
Which actually gave Shaw an opportunity to shine.
We lost, but I'd hardly call Rooney's a sitter, certainly not on the level that Hazards was. Imo Chelsea, despite their gameplan actually had the better of the chances. De Gea handled outside the box, Hazard missed an open goal in addition to the chance he converted, and other than Falcao hitting the post from a tight angle we didn't really create a great deal for our possession. Chelsea done us up like a kipper really.We drew yesterday because Rooney missed his sitter whilst Hazard took his.
Exactly this. Not having an amazing game against the best side in the league in their own stadium is hardly the biggest crime going.Agreed.
Almost seems like people are waiting for him to feck up so they can get back of the "Young is shit" BW.
He's clearly better than average, otherwise he wouldn't have been so fantastic during our recent run.Just a painfully average footballer.
Indeed. We could've won 0-2 on another day, just as we could've lost 2-0 yesterday.We drew yesterday because Rooney missed his sitter whilst Hazard took his.
Except di Maria has not played enough in this new system to be able to adjust to it. I'd also argue that in his cameos, of late, di Maria has tried to involve the left back/right back more; referring back to yesterdays game where he was looking for support from Blackett, who never responded and di Maria resorted to taking on the defender, himself. Before we start judging di Maria, lets wait till he's played in this system as recent games would show that he's taking a more restricted approach - his pass % has been 85%+ in his last few appearances.What I do like about Young on the wing is he tends to link up with the left back more whether it's Blind/Shaw where as Di Maria would rather use that left back as a decoy and run at players. Young has adapted to the system more because of that, he does what's best for the attack, not just "What might create a chance if I get past the 3 players"
Can say the same about Fellaini. It was just a tight game against well organized opponents. Di Maria didn't do anything against tired legs.He wasn't bad, but today showed his limitations and why we need better than him.
You cannot seriously be comparing Ashley Young to Gareth Bale...People here turn their heads so quick after one match. Bale has his average games too against big teams.
I'm just stating the fact that even world class players have their off days. So why are posters discrediting Young because of the Chelsea game and none of them appear during the winning streaks? If young under perform for a run of games then yes, he should be criticized but not just one game.You cannot seriously be comparing Ashley Young to Gareth Bale...
I agree with this. It goes from "he's our player of the season!" to, "he's not good enough for us." It's ridiculous. He was ineffective against Chelsea, it happens. It was disappointing but oh well.People here turn their heads so quick after one match. Bale has his average games too against big teams.
LOL, so true. I thought he was partially neutralized by the fact that Zouma was cancelling out Fellaini, but he & Shaw were giving Ivanovic (& Oscar) a hard time. His crosses were just not as accurate as in the City game, but I didn't think he was our worst player and can definitely play a role next season, even if ADM finally gets it & Depay is brought in.I agree with this. It goes from "he's our player of the season!" to, "he's not good enough for us." It's ridiculous. He was ineffective against Chelsea, it happens. It was disappointing but oh well.
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Young has been much better than Bale in the big games this season.People here turn their heads so quick after one match. Bale has his average games too against big teams.
Even average players have good runs of form, happens in every team in the league.He's clearly better than average, otherwise he wouldn't have been so fantastic during our recent run.
I'm not saying he's Ryan Giggs circa 1999, but he is better than an average player and has demonstrated it recently. He clearly does what Van Gaal wants out of the position, which is why he has been given the starting role over Di Maria.Even average players have good runs of form, happens in every team in the league.
Trust you me, there are plenty of levels between him and late 90's Giggs. He's starting because Di Maria has been poor and generally a hazard to our team. He's been mediocre for the best part of the years he's been here. Even on his current run of form, he can produce what he did vs chelsea.I'm not saying he's Ryan Giggs circa 1999, but he is better than an average player and has demonstrated it recently. He clearly does what Van Gaal wants out of the position, which is why he has been given the starting role over Di Maria.
He was excellent in his first year and scored a few crackin goals. Last year was a bust for just about all of our players. He's widely recognized as one of our most effective players this year.Trust you me, there are plenty of levels between him and late 90's Giggs. He's starting because Di Maria has been poor and generally a hazard to our team. He's been mediocre for the best part of the years he's been here. Even on his current run of form, he can produce what he did vs chelsea.
Then our standards are pretty low if his first year was anything close to excellent. He had a good start, the descended into mediocrity. Was pathetic last season but as you say so were many others and this year he's been good/mediocre/good/mediocre.He was excellent in his first year and scored a few crackin goals. Last year was a bust for just about all of our players. He's widely recognized as one of our most effective players this year.
with all due respect to young, it could also be that while young is indeed a bit better than last year, he hasn't really been nearly as good as some have pointed out and has benefited from the rest of the team playing much better as a whole.
this is a lesson in how stats dont always give a full picture. We all know that Young was utter gash last season (even longer than that in fact) and has been vastly improved under LvG, but yet his stats are actually only marginally better this year than last.