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Its the only way to compete when the rest are doing the same.Where's the fun in just spending and spending till you win?
Its the only way to compete when the rest are doing the same.Where's the fun in just spending and spending till you win?
We're getting 'fleeced', don't you know?yea, £12m transfer fee is awful
We don't really have a lot of midfielders, which is why we probably should get Schneiderlin as well. We only have four and towards the end of last season we lined up with all of them on the pitch because one of them deputises at left back as well. If we continue to play 3 central midfielders, which is likely, then we need a couple of new bodies especially with more games next season.Schneiderlin is a different type of player so I think that if LvG was really into him, he'll go for him anyway. But we have a lot of midfielders at the moment so it's hard to know.
Toure had a season where he was unstoppable. After that, it seems like his success has gone to his head because nowadays he plays like he is the world's best player and can do whatever he wants. He doesn't track back at all which was one of the main reasons why we beat them 4-2. He's a shadow of his former self.I’d say that Toure’s in a fairly similar bracket to Schweinsteiger when they’re both at their best. Agree on Ramsey though, who’s probably still got a bit more to go until he’s at that sort of level.
When both are at their best, Yaya is on his level.Yaya and Ramsey are nowhere near Schweini to be honest.
If the MEN reported global warming I'd question the legitimacy of the theory.MEN now reporting a fee of just £5.75m:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ster-united-agree-schweinsteiger-deal-9634791
City is to blame. They dont make cakes for his birthdays.Toure had a season where he was unstoppable. After that, it seems like his success has gone to his head because nowadays he plays like he is the world's best player and can do whatever he wants. He doesn't track back at all which was one of the main reasons why we beat them 4-2. He's a shadow of his former self.
He’s bounced back before, to be fair. He was very important for City in their 2011/2012 season, but then was poor the following year. He was superb in 2013/2014 though, and was instrumental in their title win.Toure had a season where he was unstoppable. After that, it seems like his success has gone to his head because nowadays he plays like he is the world's best player and can do whatever he wants. He doesn't track back at all which was one of the main reasons why we beat them 4-2. He's a shadow of his former self.
Which is why I said figures , meaning signing fee AND salary. Don't let your excitement get in the way of reading properly.yea, £12m transfer fee is awful
I don't think this a transfer we'll enjoy for years. Has a bit of the RVP about him, can be major for LVG in doing really well for a season (maybay two) which may lead to a title win for us. But he is nothing more than that a player who you need for his class and leadership abilities but who is probably in the last years of his career so it is a pure short cut to a title but not a long term answer for our midfield problems. In 2 years time I think neither Carrick or Schweini will be major players for us, Carrick likley gone and Schweini on the brick of needing to be replaced.Duncan Castles: "Question to United fans, how many of you see Schweinsteiger as a starter in the next 2 years."
Herrera needs a place, love that guy. I'd play him instead of one of that middle 3, depending who's playing better. He'd be a great #10 considering his mobility and goalscoring record for us.---------------------De Gea-------------------------
----Darmain----Otamendi-----Smalling--------Shaw---
-------------Schweini-------Carrick-------------
------Depay-------Mata--------Di Maria--------
------------------Rooney-------------------------------
Yeah, and when Rivaldo is at his best, he's even better so therefore we can say that Rivaldo is a better player than Schweinsteiger.When both are at their best, Yaya is on his level.
It's absolutely mental. Its £1mill more than Fulham paid for Ross McCormack.12m is expensive for some.
Strange, strange people.
thats not even fair---------------------De Gea-------------------------
----Darmain----Otamendi-----Smalling--------Shaw---
-------------Schweini-------Carrick-------------
------Depay-------Mata--------Di Maria--------
------------------Rooney-------------------------------
It's absolutely mental. Its £1mill more than Fulham paid for Ross McCormack.
So it's the £140,000ish a week salary that's got you uptight? For Schweinsteiger? Seriously?Which is why I said figures , meaning signing fee AND salary. Don't let your excitement get in the way of reading properly.
Who knows maybe he can last more than 2 years. Schweini is younger so I dont think they'll need replacing in the same time.I don't think this a transfer we'll enjoy for years. Has a bit of the RVP about him, can be major for LVG in doing really well for a season (maybay two) which may lead to a title win for us. But he is nothing more than that a player who you need for his class and leadership abilities but who is probably in the last years of his career so it is a pure short cut to a title but not a long term answer for our midfield problems. In 2 years time I think neither Carrick or Schweini will be major players for us, Carrick likley gone and Schweini on the brick of needing to be replaced.
Yes definitely, I'm getting caught up in the hype of signing Schweiny as much as the next guy but as great as it is we still need more options in there, we have to be prepared for injuries to one or two main midfielders for the coming campaign with the extra games especially.We don't really have a lot of midfielders, which is why we probably should get Schneiderlin as well. We only have four and towards the end of last season we lined up with all of them on the pitch because one of them deputises at left back as well. If we continue to play 3 central midfielders, which is likely, then we need a couple of new bodies especially with more games next season.
£130k a week is too much?Which is why I said figures , meaning signing fee AND salary. Don't let your excitement get in the way of reading properly.
Jesus. Ok, so he's not got that many years of form left, but right now, he's barely less good than his best. For context, 2013-14 was probably his strongest ever season. Essentially, we'd be signing him around the same stage of his career we signed RVP, but for a quarter of the price.MEN now reporting a fee of just £5.75m:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ster-united-agree-schweinsteiger-deal-9634791
Lacks Ander. Looks pretty good to me otherwise.---------------------De Gea-------------------------
----Darmain----Otamendi-----Smalling--------Shaw---
-------------Schweini-------Carrick-------------
------Depay-------Mata--------Di Maria--------
------------------Rooney-------------------------------
Oh that's just one option, i love Jones too and would love to include him, plus we need another striker as an option, plus after last season Young deserves a place and of course there's still the chance that we sign schniederlin and Blind has to fit in somewhere. i'm so optimistic, i think i've finally embraced my inner muppet.Herrera needs a place, love that guy. I'd play him instead of one of that middle 3, depending who's playing better. He'd be a great #10 considering his mobility and goalscoring record for us.
That's ridiculous !It's absolutely mental. Its £1mill more than Fulham paid for Ross McCormack.
Meh---------------------De Gea-------------------------
----Darmain----Otamendi-----Smalling--------Shaw---
-------------Schweini-------Carrick-------------
------Depay-------Mata--------Di Maria--------
------------------Rooney-------------------------------
Yea but we're apparently offering him a wage about 15% higher than Ashley Young. Outrageous.It's absolutely mental. Its £1mill more than Fulham paid for Ross McCormack.
The journalists know feck all about fees. They'll pull any number out of their arse to get more views.MEN now reporting a fee of just £5.75m:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ster-united-agree-schweinsteiger-deal-9634791
Given his massive injury problems in the last couple of years and his age and most importantly mileage, yes.So it's the £140,000ish a week salary that's got you uptight? For Schweinsteiger? Seriously?
When Yaya is at the top of his game he's a game changer and more influential than Schweinsteiger but over a season Schweinsteiger contributes more and therefore more influential imo.When both are at their best, Yaya is on his level.
Fixed it for you---------------------De Gea-------------------------
----Darmain----Otamendi-----Smalling--------Shaw---
-------------Schweini-------Herrera-------------
------Di Maria-------Mata--------Depay--------
------------------Rooney-------------------------------
Yeah, proper 4-3-3, I think that would be our strongest lineup if everything was confirmed.
Ah the old 'PL is harder' chestnut.Given his massive injury problems in the last couple of years and his age and most importantly mileage, yes.
EDIT: And the fact that the BPL is harder on your body than the Bundesliga since you don't have a winter break, more games and more physicality in those games.
I still don’t think it’s too ridiculous, though, to be fair. I’d say the injury problems are the much bigger concern than age. At 31, he could still have a few years in him to deliver. He’s a good player technically, so you’d imagine that his ability isn’t going to suddenly disappear. Honestly, to get someone like Schweinsteiger, we’re not going to be offered a much better deal than what we were given. He’s getting older, yes, but he’s not completely past his best, and it’s a fairly good deal overall.Given his massive injury problems in the last couple of years and his age and most importantly mileage, yes.
EDIT: And the fact that the BPL is harder on your body than the Bundesliga since you don't have a winter break, more games and more physicality in those games.
They're different types of player tbh, Matic is the only one I think is directly comparable. But that aside, I think Schweinsteiger is arguably as good as, or better than, all of them.Calm down, Matic, Fabregas, probably Yaya, Ramsey too would be in that bracket. Hes still good, but hes no longer the colossus he once was.