Where have you heard this from?
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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I never heard that.
It really has diminished in every way. It's a shame, but it's the way it is.
No, nothing was announced because there is nothing to announce.
Mourinho has never been reported anywhere as having said any such thing.
Maybe I dreamt it.
The FA cup is an after thought? So its beneath us? Is that the fan mentality?
Its not the mentality of the club I have been supporting. I think some fans have this mentality which lacks a certain lack of gratitude, empathy, history and roots.
Nice to wake up to a steaming pile of BS.
he's right
You should have gone before going to bed.
I'm surprised that people are so dismissive of the notion that we could be on a real slide here if we get this wrong.
For me, there are two possibilities which are at opposite ends of the spectrum. There are others, but these are the two, as I see it, which are best or worst case.
Scenario 1: The most likely scenario by far in my opinion, LVG stays for one final season, with the plan being for Giggs to take over afterwards. In this scenario I see De Gea leaving and no top players coming in for the simple reason that Van Gaal has made himself look like a bit of an incompetent clown, we're not in the CL, and things don't look like improving anytime soon. Think about how many games we'd have lost this season if not for De Gea's heroics. We could really slide down the table this way, and looking at the money coming into the PL and how competitive it's becoming at the top with Klopp, Conte, Pep etc attracting players, and it's easy to see that we could drop a long way.
Scenario 2: Mourinho comes in and has renewed hunger to succeed in a club he's always fancied managing. The huge draw that comes from having a top manager, as well as the potentially huge rivalry with Pep within the two Manchester clubs could entice some big name players to actually come here and we could start the big rebuild.
I genuinely think that scenario 1, or some variation of it, is extremely likely and concerning.
For me, there are two possibilities which are at opposite ends of the spectrum. There are others, but these are the two, as I see it, which are best or worst case.
Scenario 1: The most likely scenario by far in my opinion, LVG stays for one final season, with the plan being for Giggs to take over afterwards. In this scenario I see De Gea leaving and no top players coming in for the simple reason that Van Gaal has made himself look like a bit of an incompetent clown, we're not in the CL, and things don't look like improving anytime soon. Think about how many games we'd have lost this season if not for De Gea's heroics. We could really slide down the table this way, and looking at the money coming into the PL and how competitive it's becoming at the top with Klopp, Conte, Pep etc attracting players, and it's easy to see that we could drop a long way.
Scenario 2: Mourinho comes in and has renewed hunger to succeed in a club he's always fancied managing. The huge draw that comes from having a top manager, as well as the potentially huge rivalry with Pep within the two Manchester clubs could entice some big name players to actually come here and we could start the big rebuild.
I genuinely think that scenario 1, or some variation of it, is extremely likely and concerning.
Despite the white text, that is quite plausible.
Yup, this is true. Winning the cup doesn't improve this season one ounce.
Touché
No it isn't, he'd have no one left to join.
Well, outside of paper talk, there's not been any indication of unhappiness with Van Gaal. I look at how settled and confident he looks when he says he'll be here next year and can't imagine he's been told he's off (and we'd surely at least have indicated something of the sort). I also just don't see us hiring Mourinho, it's too sensible.
I don't deny being pessimistic, but Van Gaal has pushed me into it
I'll be shocked if I'm wrong, but very happy.I swear I could here 'Jersualem' growing louder and louder in the background as I read this....
I hope your not Ed Woodward in disguise.. Otherswise we really are fecked. We won't do a Liverpool because we have a bigger ground? Ayeee??
I do agree though we are 4 signings away from a serious title challenge. Let's just hope LVG isn't managing them.
I think Van Gaal is the epitome of braggadicio. Deep down I would be surprised if he doesn't expect the sack. He has failed in many ways, not least our final league position.Well, outside of paper talk, there's not been any indication of unhappiness with Van Gaal. I look at how settled and confident he looks when he says he'll be here next year and can't imagine he's been told he's off (and we'd surely at least have indicated something of the sort). I also just don't see us hiring Mourinho, it's too sensible.
I don't deny being pessimistic, but Van Gaal has pushed me into it
As for being told about his future, I am not sure it matters much; Moyes also appeared totally oblivious or in total denial until the ax fell.
Thats not what i was saying.
Von Mistelroum, post: 19193195, member: 96423"]Well, outside of paper talk, there's not been any indication of unhappiness with Van Gaal. I look at how settled and confident he looks when he says he'll be here next year and can't imagine he's been told he's off (and we'd surely at least have indicated something of the sort). I also just don't see us hiring Mourinho, it's too sensible.
I don't deny being pessimistic, but Van Gaal has pushed me into it I'll be shocked if I'm wrong, but very happy.[/QUOTE]
This is just you thinking worst case scenario. The target was top 3 minimum and make a good run in the C.L.
He has failed.
I don't deny being pessimistic, but Van Gaal has pushed me into it
I'll be shocked if I'm wrong, but very happy.[/QUOTE]This is just you thinking worst case scenario. The target was top 3 minimum and make a good run in the C.L.
He has failed.
You think the following is overblown?
It's pretty poor, if you ask me and I am not over-blowing our current situation.
Pretty poor? Its a complete fecking disgrace. Entirely unforgivable. Calling it the worst season in the last 30 years wouldn't be overblowing the situation.
Not to forget not scoring a first half goal in 21 out of 37 league games. Dreadful.
It's extremely obvious that mourinho is all but done. He wouldn't be talking stuff like 'I have time' if it wasn't. Not to mention reliable guys like Di marzio, Portuguese media which according to the Portuguese posters here are very reliable report we have a pre contract.
People still refusing to believe it are just choosing to believe the worst news just to criticise the club.
People still refusing to believe it are just choosing to believe the worst news just to criticise the club.
I think some of you have short memories if you think this is the worst season Utd have had since Fergie retired... As bad as this season has been, we were definitely worse under Moyes. How can anyone forget how utterly inept we were in the big games under him? The 3-0s at home to Pool and City, which could easily have hit double figures, where we looked like we would rather be anywhere else.
LVG for all his faults, at least gave us an identity when we played and he tightened up a defence which was at times the season before, absolutely comical. That's not to say he's not deserving of the sack, he definitely is and he will be. But he did at least one third and a bit of his job right, with the defence and some aspects of the midfield play. What ultimately will have cost him was the lack of attacking reinforcements and his fawning bias towards Rooney which dulled our team and rendered us impotent.
LVG for all his faults, at least gave us an identity when we played and he tightened up a defence which was at times the season before, absolutely comical. That's not to say he's not deserving of the sack, he definitely is and he will be. But he did at least one third and a bit of his job right, with the defence and some aspects of the midfield play. What ultimately will have cost him was the lack of attacking reinforcements and his fawning bias towards Rooney which dulled our team and rendered us impotent.
The question is: we need to be rebuilt, so is Jose the right manager for that? And would he be fine with playing without CL?
Think Jose is one of the biggest names out there, who better for the rebuilding job?
He wouldn't have qualified with Chelsea, doubt he would quit that job cause of no cl.
Which teams that are in next year's CL are offering him a job?
There wouldn't be any, if they have qualified for the CL they would be satisfied with their manager anyway.
Right. So the question is actually, is Mourinho going to sit out the entire next season because he doesnt get to manage a club in the CL?
Seems unlikely.
He's a successful manager, yes. But is he also a "build up" manager?
Not exactly - would we have been satisfied with LVG if we finished top 4?
Dont think so. A bit "Arsenal" that kind of viewpoint.
Us and Jose are are at a low point, which is why it could be a perfect storm. He would have been out if the CL with Chelsea anyway.
Definitely not. Doubt not being in the CL will bother him. We are a high profile club with great resources. If he stayed out of football for another season it doesn't take long to get out of touch. Our of sight, out of mind. There are plenty of managers that applies to.
Chelsea finished 4th when he took over? He built them up. Plus we don't need rebuilding the foundations are there. We need progressing!!
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