Not really, he's shutting him down for making up a story and acting like he has inside knowledge when he's not a doctor, and he then proceeds it by saying no one currently knows the timescale... pretty easy to understand not sure what bit tripped you up.
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Bollocks to that! I want to win the league period.
My thoughts exactly.
If I'd felt a specific way I'd have been more direct, I think Guardiola talking about buying a replacement for a £50M fullback who will be returning from the injury before the end of the season comes off as pathetic and desperate, with Shaw I think if he were German or French etc...we'd have already moved on, but like with Hargreaves we are going above and beyond.
Now you’re sounding like Mendy. Since when do you need a medical degree to work out that a serious looking knee injury could be a ruptured ACL?!
Cool. Looks like we’re on the same page re City.
Re Shaw. We paid 30m for a teenage fullback. Which shows how highly rated he must be. I don’t think nationality comes into it.
What has he made up?
Duncan has basically said it is a cancern for city that he may had ruptured his ACL. Do you not think City won't be concerned of this or something?Id be shocked if city didnt know one way or the other if he had ruptured his ACL - I'm sure he will have seen numerous doctors and undergone scans by now and City will know know what the injury isWhat has he made up?
Standard practice to wait a few days before scanning a serious knee injury. Immediately after the injury the joint will be full of blood which makes imaging tricky. They’ll try to get the swelling down a bit first. Meanwhile, nobody can be certain exactly what sort of damage he’s done.
injuries get determined pretty quickly. Was playing tennis last night with the mrs and a few of her friends and one went down injured and she knew it was her achilles. two hours later hospital confirmed an 80% tear. City know the extent of the injury, for sure.
You're speaking to a set of fans who've just had Clichy and Kolarov as their left backs. You could completely chop off Danilo's left leg and he'd still be less of a liability at LB than Clichy was last season.
Not really, he's only saying that no one knows the extent of his injury yet, and you can imagine in his situation why he's annoyed when he's going to be anxiously waiting for the results of his tests, praying he hasn't got anything serious, and then some boiled egg appears on his Twitter feed speculating that his season could basically be over and dressing it up as some informed opinion.
That's a surprise. Granted I only watched him for Real but whenever I saw him there he was easily their worst player. Completely out of his depth.
Looking forward to the candlelit vigil for him
As top level with small margin, they need to get the best accurate diagnosis as possible. The medical team should and can pretty guess what type and ow serious the injury. However they can't be for sure to the very detail thus estimate recovery time by now. Like 5cm tear can be another story from 2cm. Which Duncan had a point about the "concern", as Duncan might overheard City staff having the concern talk.
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His nationality is why we had to pay so much IMO, decent English players are in short supply these days and as many here still like to remind us, we are an English club so I think there's still a pressure to have some English players. We've had over 2 years now with no sign of Shaw being close to establishing himself as the first choice LB, so we've let the position stagnate, I just don't think we'd have done that for so long had Shaw not been English.
He is still young and has had major injury issues. I do not think nationality has anything to do with us not completely giving up yet.
We did same with Anderson for 8 years and he wasn't English or home grown player.
That's way too simplistic pal.
The player will know its his knee immediately of course.
But as the chap above said they can't diagnose the exact until the swelling has gone down in knees.
Not all areas are the same.
There can be a fear its a certain injury but itll come out when they know. Theyd do well to conceal it and i d be no benefit to anyway!
It was a huge english tax inflation and he's still very young. So its very understandable we'll give every chance of recovery.
However he surely has this season to prove his value or its unthinkable wed let, it go another window
You cant rotate a veteran winger an average Darmian and a utility man in blind and hope to make real progress. It saved shaw that we had bigger priorities elsewhere this summer
Do City have a young LB to bring in? Or is the answer a new signing.
What has happened to him?
Actually, not for sure which is why the actual diagnostic exam will clarify the extent of the injury. It's much ado about nothing, equally on the player's tweet (despite being funny) as well as Castles who cannot rush to even a potential conclusion on how long he may be out until it's actually been confirmed.
Yet, I am also of the belief that the club & player, already, are reasonably certain what the extent of the injury is just from the simple physical exam he undoubtedly had but that does not equate to certainty. It'll be confirmed soon enough and either way it has already been painfully overanalysed
It wasn't long ago that ACL repair & rehab, of any kind, was the athlete kiss of death but even with the medical advances today there are never any guarantees about a player recovering their same level. So yeah, I think it's still a big deal for a player
Reading it back, I should have wrote "the rough extent"
Jim Beglin giving it some in that tweet! haha
Not a fan of castles by the looks of it.
Not a fan of castles by the looks of it.
His injury was over 2 years ago now and he has made no real progress in returning, I personally think the fact we are well down on English players factors in.
You can't sell the court jester!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against giving him a chance but I agree, 3 full seasons is more than enough to give any player, we can't keep up the muscial chairs at LB indefinitely, this will be 3 full seasons of it come next summer, teams are always better with a settled back 4.
He just came back last season and was injured again at the end of last season.His injury was over 2 years ago now and he has made no real progress in returning, I personally think the fact we are well down on English players factors in.
You can't sell the court jester!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against giving him a chance but I agree, 3 full seasons is more than enough to give any player, we can't keep up the muscial chairs at LB indefinitely, this will be 3 full seasons of it come next summer, teams are always better with a settled back 4.
That's what I'm saying, his progress is virtually non existent, he broke his leg 2 full years ago and is no closer to being match ready, it's a long time off when you are a player who was still in the development phase of your career to begin with.
We will have to be patient with him to be completely fit rather than rushing him back. Makes no sense letting him go, even he has a off season or a ok season. He'll come around.
That's it. If he can't show he can be a good option for proper runs of games over the rest of this season, we need to bring quality in. A Danny Rose or someone.His injury was over 2 years ago now and he has made no real progress in returning, I personally think the fact we are well down on English players factors in.
You can't sell the court jester!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against giving him a chance but I agree, 3 full seasons is more than enough to give any player, we can't keep up the muscial chairs at LB indefinitely, this will be 3 full seasons of it come next summer, teams are always better with a settled back 4.
Shaw can then be back up, which is all he at the moment anyway!
He's in a difficult position in a way. Yes he'll never need to work again and is covered financially, but he could very easily find himself plummeting down the standard teams. There's not much call for players who can't put in 4-5 games without breaking down. It's like the position Phil Jones was the last couple of years.
He's doing nicely right now, and a few years older, so fingers crossed.
He had a serious injury last season as well.
Yep.
While we all hate City and all they've become, you don't want a player to have a major injury.
It also shows how frail hopes of teams can be too. £50m, plays 3-4 games then our for ages maybe? He's a major way of how they wanted to play with wing backs too.
I'm not sure he will to be honest, I think extending his contract made sense to protect the investment, but he needs to show something this season.
Yeah, he has to make some kind of impression on the first team this year, I'm not overly sure Mourinho is that keen on him in truth but I'm sure he'll give him some chances.
He's also in a difficult position because United is not an easy club to make your mistakes at, the spotlight is intense, I actually think he'd benefit from a loan in January to a team that can give him steady games without the scrutiny.
And why ? We will not get higher ceiling talents than him in replacement.
His ceiling at the moment doesn't seem particularly high. He's stalled completely in the last few years.
He's regressed, if anything
Yep. His "ceiling" was sky high, but it was based on him putting in excellent displays. The longer that goes on the more you worry this is now his level. In fact we don't even know as he's basically getting sub appearances only in the league cup
Mendy's response to Castles is class .
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