Brilliant episode. The only loose end is Kim's story now.
Television Better Call Saul | Includes Breaking Bad Spoilers
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
This is well-said and it's why I prefer Breaking Bad. Obviously you know Walt isn't going to die mid-season but everything else is on the table, which can never be the case in a prequel. That said this series has been absolutely fantastic and when taken as a whole (BB, Saul and El Camino, which was just fine) it's among my favourite TV ever. I love everything about it, even Anna Gunn's Skyler!
That was incredible.
4 episodes remaining is a bit mad though. I'm still unsure whether Kim will end up being killed off or just decide to feck off away from Jimmy. I feel like if Kim was to die then Jimmy would have been a much more messed up character in Breaking Bad instaead of smily, happy Saul.
At the same time, I can also see Gus deciding to be a prick and killing off Kim just because, and even the Salamanca twins are still around this point right? They could feck shit up for four episodes if they find out what's gone on.
4 episodes remaining is a bit mad though. I'm still unsure whether Kim will end up being killed off or just decide to feck off away from Jimmy. I feel like if Kim was to die then Jimmy would have been a much more messed up character in Breaking Bad instaead of smily, happy Saul.
At the same time, I can also see Gus deciding to be a prick and killing off Kim just because, and even the Salamanca twins are still around this point right? They could feck shit up for four episodes if they find out what's gone on.
That's what I've been thinking. With how close the two shows are in timeline it wouldnt be credible for Kim to die and Jimmy to have been so chipper in Breaking Bad. And if she died it cant have had anything to do with Gus or Mike, because he's still happily dealing with both of them.
I think Kim does a runner or even something like witness protection.
I actually think the original idea was probably to kill her off but her success as a character will have made them consider another spinoff series.
I actually think the original idea was probably to kill her off but her success as a character will have made them consider another spinoff series.
Unless Gus has her killed but doesn't tell Jimmy, letting him believe she left him. That would give every interaction between Mike and Saul in BB a much darker feel.
Gus bragging about killing off the salamcas is a little premature, the cousins are still out there and almost cost him big in breaking bad.
Ehrmantraut is probably the only one left who's not entirely loco. His humanity could at some point save both Kim & Saul for a price of Jimmy being forever associated with war vs the 'familia'.
Pretty sure Gus won't be happy with Kim knowing his business and he will say she needs to be killed. However, Mike feels guilty about not keeping an eye on her place which led her to being at Gus' door and they'll agree for her to disappear and pretend that he has killed her. I reckon she'll use the vacuum cleaner guy. The fact they showed her looking at his card in the vet's office a few episodes ago was definitely hinting at that.
Also, that one flash forward to Breaking Bad when Saul tells Francesca that someone is going to call a particular phone on November 12th (I think) is referring to Kim imo. That's Saul's birthday so it would make sense that they maybe arranged to have a regular secret phone call on that day. Another minor little point is that Kim is from Nebraska (in the flashback scene where she's caught stealing, the licence plate on her mom's car is from Nebraska), where Saul is. So all those little moments definitely point to the return of Kim in the Gene universe.
Also, that one flash forward to Breaking Bad when Saul tells Francesca that someone is going to call a particular phone on November 12th (I think) is referring to Kim imo. That's Saul's birthday so it would make sense that they maybe arranged to have a regular secret phone call on that day. Another minor little point is that Kim is from Nebraska (in the flashback scene where she's caught stealing, the licence plate on her mom's car is from Nebraska), where Saul is. So all those little moments definitely point to the return of Kim in the Gene universe.
Regarding Kim, it's worth remembering that a season or two back, she got the vet's contact book and the details of the vacuum cleaner repair/new identity guy
Assume you mean a few episodes back.
It's a 4 year gap to BB's start(2008) from where we are currently (2004). Plenty of time, I mean Walt went from where he was to where he ended in 2 years in the timeline. So you know, certainly plausible in the universe.
Surely Ed just makes Kim disappear at her request, and never caves in the time between BCS and BB, thus why Saul knows he's truly good at what he does in BB. The hint is already there.
You're right! I've watched so much BCS recently while waiting for the season to resume that I got lost. Of course, the reason they were visiting the vet was to get the pupil dilating/sweating drugs to make Howard looked like he was on coke. watching that plan unfold was cracking entertainment.
Haven't seen episode 9 yet, and I thought episode 8 was good, but didn't anybody else thought the actual shooting between Lalo and Gus was a bit iffy? It was just a few seconds, but the way Gus manages to reach the hidden gun felt cheap and not particularly well shot, which is a criticism you almost never can level at Gilligan's stuff, although I've always had the feeling pure action scenes are not his strongest suit.
I kind of like this style though, rather than watch a 5 minute shoot out where they miss every shot like in James Bond
I didn't like it either, but once they went down in the hole it was always going to end up like that, since we knew he had a gun hidden there.
I totally expected Walter White to come through that Saul's office door at the end.
Decent episode, bit slow, but they were always going to give us slow scenes after the last episode.
Decent episode, bit slow, but they were always going to give us slow scenes after the last episode.
I did as well.
So happy Kim didn't die but I hope they show what becomes of her.
I also expected Walt
Aren’t all the stories wrapped up now? Every character is in the same place they were at the start of Breaking Bad. Kim, Howard etc have wrapped
Could the next episode focus on Gene?
Aren’t all the stories wrapped up now? Every character is in the same place they were at the start of Breaking Bad. Kim, Howard etc have wrapped
Could the next episode focus on Gene?
So do you reckon we've seen the last of Kim? I'll be slightly underwhelmed and more than a bit sad if we have.
I don't think Kim using the vacuum cleaner guy at this point makes much sense. But then she giving up her job sudenly after Howard'd death maybe wasn't the brightest idea, it could raise few eyebrows.
So how long did we just fast forward in the blink of an eye at the end there? 4 years?
Decent episode but slow churn after the last one and Kim’s story seems like they suddenly realised they only have 3 episodes left and needed to get to a position where she wasn’t in the picture anymore.
They’re going to have to give us more on Kim, are we expecting her to turn in in Gene’s timeline?
Decent episode but slow churn after the last one and Kim’s story seems like they suddenly realised they only have 3 episodes left and needed to get to a position where she wasn’t in the picture anymore.
They’re going to have to give us more on Kim, are we expecting her to turn in in Gene’s timeline?
Love the detail paid to the wine, proper stemware being paramount. I’ve had the Rene Rostaing CR ‘La Landonne,’ fabulous bottle of wine & actually on the affordable side for single vineyard Côte-Rôtie. But you don‘t smell the cork.
Saul's wheelchair parking tag expires in November 2008.
Walt's in the BB pilot expires December 2008.
Between that and Saul talking on the phone about public masturbators (which is what he thought Badger was coming to him about) means we're probably right up to the day or week that he meets Walt.
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Feel like she might go down/confess to Howard's murder or something.
My favourite part of the episode was Don Eladio saying he saw hate in Gus’ eyes, just a little bit is ok but not too much.
Two scenes later we see exactly the same look from Mike looking at Gus and Gus almost smiling as he understands that although Mike definitely hates him, there is a business understanding that both abide by.
Two scenes later we see exactly the same look from Mike looking at Gus and Gus almost smiling as he understands that although Mike definitely hates him, there is a business understanding that both abide by.
I wondered about that but in BB Mike seems to genuinely like him.
It’s ludicrously over indulgent at times. So many scenes could be cut in half with the same impact but it does still have brilliance dotted throughout. Though it is helped enormously by having established characters from its predecessor.
I wish it was more indulgent at times.
I could watch an hour of Gilligan's montages of coffee, morphing to a lamp, morphing to a plate, to blood on the floor etc. it’s mesmerising.
It’s incredibly well shot, no doubt about it. But when you rush over a major character making a major life decision to watch Nacho’s dad sew, I think it goes a little far.
Yea the timing on Kim was for shit agree, I said the same above.
The parking tag thing I saw on Twitter but the other bit I noticed myself.Jesus
Have you read stuff elsewhere or do you just notice this shit?!
Touché mate.
Thought my TV had skipped half the episode there. Is that it? That was Kim's big ending?
I think we see her next episode.
A woman's life ends when she breaks up with a man.
I watched a video analysing how Gus actually prepared for all that happened in the cave (losening the electric cable, counting steps to the gun and hiding Gun and pointing to the spot Lalo was) and I felt like I didn't payed enough attention to appreciate the shooting that happened since I felt it was weak too before watching that video.
Link?
I can't find exact video, in this video guy mentions it also quickly at 6:20 but I watched different one.