"Blackface" Discussion

VP said:
Great another white man who thinks he's the world's savior.
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Everything in our life comes from a culture somewhere. Chopstick comes from China, fashion comes from everywhere from Milan to Japan to Korea, lifestyle, movies, pop culture, songs, even football club and lifestyle, religion comes from Middle East, Cosmetic from Korea, Kpop, Hollywood, Pasta and italian coffee, Political views comes from Greek, we adopt many things good and bad everyday on every walk of life.

Black people should stop assuming the whole world is out to get them racially.

This whole offended by something is becoming tedious it'll actually desensitized people from the actual racism that still exists till today. Blacklivesmatter is important and should be made aware, historical truth, repatriation, reconciliation, those are pure and real issue they should be fighting for, not becoming a PC warrior by calling everyone racist without even a shred of common sense.
 
Sky1981 said:
Everything in our life comes from a culture somewhere. Chopstick comes from China, fashion comes from everywhere from Milan to Japan to Korea, lifestyle, movies, pop culture, songs, even football club and lifestyle, religion comes from Middle East, Cosmetic from Korea, Kpop, Hollywood, Pasta and italian coffee, Political views comes from Greek, we adopt many things good and bad everyday on every walk of life.

Black people should stop assuming the whole world is out to get them racially.

This whole offended by something is becoming tedious it'll actually desensitized people from the actual racism that still exists till today. Blacklivesmatter is important and should be made aware, historical truth, repatriation, reconciliation, those are pure and real issue they should be fighting for, not becoming a PC warrior by calling everyone racist without even a shred of common sense.
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I would like to just say that this should be more aimed at Black people from America than black people in general.
 
Sky1981 said:
Black people should stop assuming the whole world is out to get them racially.
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You'd think they'd know better after centuries of persecution and exploitation.
 
Sky1981 said:
Black people should stop assuming the whole world is out to get them racially.

This whole offended by something is becoming tedious it'll actually desensitized people from the actual racism that still exists till today. Blacklivesmatter is important and should be made aware, historical truth, repatriation, reconciliation, those are pure and real issue they should be fighting for, not becoming a PC warrior by calling everyone racist without even a shred of common sense.
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Oooooh mate..

Nah.
 
So my girlfriend was telling me they’ve banned whiteface at her uni. She’s supposed to be going to an annual lacrosse team night out tomorrow and each year different people are assigned countries to go as. She’s got Japan, someone else has Africa, someone had France etc.

Apparently when it happened last year the uni kicked off because the Japanese lot put white make up on their face. A few people complained and the uni banned it, evidently.

I get why the uni don’t want the aggro, (it made the local press) but is that really as serious as blacking up? It’s not copying a skin colour, Japanese people do actually apply white make up, as far as I know. I just thought it was an odd thing to complain about. Anyone else?
 
2 man midfield said:
So my girlfriend was telling me they’ve banned whiteface at her uni. She’s supposed to be going to an annual lacrosse team night out tomorrow and each year different people are assigned countries to go as. She’s got Japan, someone else has Africa, someone had France etc.

Apparently when it happened last year the uni kicked off because the Japanese lot put white make up on their face. A few people complained and the uni banned it, evidently.

I get why the uni don’t want the aggro, (it made the local press) but is that really as serious as blacking up? It’s not copying a skin colour, Japanese people do actually apply white make up, as far as I know. I just thought it was an odd thing to complain about. Anyone else?
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They're doing that party again still after the prior shitstorm:confused:
The whole dress as a country theme is asking for trouble. Just all go as X-men or whatever.
 
Jippy said:
They're doing that party again still after the prior shitstorm:confused:
The whole dress as a country theme is asking for trouble. Just all go as X-men or whatever.
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Well I did think that too. For whatever reason the poor bugger who has to dress up as an African is on far dodgier ground than the French person who chucks on a striped shirt and a garlic necklace.
 
2 man midfield said:
So my girlfriend was telling me they’ve banned whiteface at her uni. She’s supposed to be going to an annual lacrosse team night out tomorrow and each year different people are assigned countries to go as. She’s got Japan, someone else has Africa, someone had France etc.

Apparently when it happened last year the uni kicked off because the Japanese lot put white make up on their face. A few people complained and the uni banned it, evidently.

I get why the uni don’t want the aggro, (it made the local press) but is that really as serious as blacking up? It’s not copying a skin colour, Japanese people do actually apply white make up, as far as I know. I just thought it was an odd thing to complain about. Anyone else?
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Sigh
 
2 man midfield said:
Well I did think that too. For whatever reason the poor bugger who has to dress up as an African is on far dodgier ground than the French person who chucks on a striped shirt and a garlic necklace.
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It's like these people never read the news- send them a link to the Trudeau shitstorm.
 
Id really like to post the “Aww sh*t, here we go again” meme in this thread :lol:
 
Fridge chutney said:
@Sweet Square I think the historical context is missing to make what happens in Japan with the hair comparable to blackface. I can see why people might find it offensive but I perceive it more as a cultural tribute than mockery.
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There's a documentary on youtube somewhere about Japanese people who're really into the Chicana culture. It pretty much aligns with what you're saying here, they see it as a tribute and respectful.

edit: found it

 
Sky1981 said:
You're overplaying the extend of racism outside America (I don't know about Europe), but half the world doesn't hate Blacks, Half the world doesn't even see many black people enough, you think an asian girl would go to extreme length and discomfort (that flock of braid is actually hard to maintain and stressfull on hair you need a good hair to support that looks) because they "hate blacks"? They do that because the hip-hop culture, something blacks should be proud off that people adore their style. Ask any other countries I don't think anyone would object if other country emulates their looks. The korean are so happy that many other countries embraces their k-pop style, and they actively pursue it. Indonesians are proud if you like our Batik, our traditional dances or martial arts and actually promotes it to the world. Never in a million years we call an innocent westerner wearing Batik as "racist" even though we see them as invaders due to our past history.

Racism should be fought on a more fundamental basis, systematic discrimination by the government, unjust policing, and many other heavier stuff than what sort of hair style an Asian woman support.
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I would agree with this particular point. It's just that it's easier to pinpoint and fight meaningless stuff rather than try to adress the issues at their core
 
Many years ago my friends and I went to a fancy dress party as the A Team. One of us dressed as the legendary BA Barracus and had a full on 3 coats of the creosote spray tan and looked amazing! We all pulled that night but that's a different story.

None of us were back then, or are now, in any sense of the word racist but I wonder if that would now be viewed badly?

Edit: Thinking about it, we were actually arguing over who was going to be BA as he was always the coolest.
 
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Dressing up as the ‘country’ of Africa? :lol:
 
I can't help but shake my head at some of these antics. How do these marketing people justify their pay!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51399355

Books pulled over 'literary blackface' accusations

Barnes and Noble launched the new Diverse Editions on Tuesday, featuring new covers illustrating the main characters as people of colour.
But the initiative to mark Black History Month received a swift backlash with authors calling it superficial. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, Moby-Dick and Frankenstein were among the titles included. On the back of the redesigned covers, the company said: "For the first time ever, all parents will be able to pick up a book and see themselves in a story."

But the move faced a barrage of criticism. "This is essentially literary blackface," tweeted author Frederick Joseph.
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Even ignoring the blackface thing, it's a little weird. If you read a book and need a character to be the same colour as you before you can relate to them, then what's going on?
 
Volumiza said:
Many years ago my friends and I went to a fancy dress party as the A Team. One of us dressed as the legendary BA Barracus and had a full on 3 coats of the creosote spray tan and looked amazing! We all pulled that night but that's a different story.

None of us were back then, or are now, in any sense of the word racist but I wonder if that would now be viewed badly?

Edit: Thinking about it, we were actually arguing over who was going to be BA as he was always the coolest.
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I'm cringing a bit right now.
 
Volumiza said:
Yeah. Time change. We didn’t blink an eyelid 20 odd years ago. We just thought it was cool and ok.
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Yep.

My son had a fancy dress party about 18 months ago and one of his mates turned up in black face as Snoop Dogg. It went from drunken hilarity to quiet awkward very quickly. Nobody said anything to him as far as I know (but I think someone must have) but he disappeared and returned with the blackface wiped off fairly quickly.
 
I remember a co-worker telling me a few years back that he blacked up for a fancy dress party.
"who did you go as?" I asked.
"...just a black man." he said.
It took me a few seconds to process that one.
 
entropy said:
Some real cringe-worthy posts in this thread. So much mental gymnastics to defend an insanely rich athlete who did everything in his power to not go to jail. Just incredible.
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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
I can't help but shake my head at some of these antics. How do these marketing people justify their pay!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51399355

Books pulled over 'literary blackface' accusations



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2 man midfield said:
Even ignoring the blackface thing, it's a little weird. If you read a book and need a character to be the same colour as you before you can relate to them, then what's going on?
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This is not blackface. This is race swapping characters which companies like marvel and other movie studios do all the time. I personally hate it as it's lazy and pandering but it's not blackface in the meaning of blackface. Fictional characters can be any colour which is an argument for doing it.
 
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