Gambit
Desperately wants to be a Muppet
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fecking hell the last 30 seconds of that beats the shit out of Hanks gunfight. Wow in fecking deed.
He'll end up as Walts enforcer.I would like Hank to remain only "Good" major character left on the show.
In fairness they have always made the best TV. But they are at a new level nowadays.Seriously, this and Dexter, well done America. You now make the best TV on earth. I liked the Sopranos, the wire etc but this and Dexter beats them all in my eyes. Within an episode they can turn the world upside down.
Whoa now, let's not go overboardSeriously, this and Dexter, well done America. You now make the best TV on earth. I liked the Sopranos, the wire etc but this and Dexter beats them all in my eyes. Within an episode they can turn the world upside down.
The 70's, 80's and early 90's they didn't, especilly in the drama stakes. Mid 90's they suddenly changed and now they're excellent.In fairness they have always made the best TV. But they are at a new level nowadays.
But even growing up 90% of the stuff I used to watch was American made.
I'm not, where as they were both brilliant series they never packed the emotional punch for me that Braking Bad and Dexter are able to deliver.Whoa now, let's not go overboard
Found no matter what I couldn't sympathise with any of the characters in the Sopranos. It also went on to long. Whats this mainstream monikor all about all of a sudden. Theyre drama shows and a damn sight different than the supposed mainstream. If BB and Dex are now mainstream then the Sopranos was the most main stream show ever.Wire is in different league with TV shows because it never too any dramatic license to shock, entertain and or introduce a twist. Dexter and Breaking Bad are still very mainstream in that respect.
And it is actually, Sopranos which is the most emotionally involving out of all these 4 IMO.
Can't argue that, though Mad Men is excellent too, if not quite as good.Yeah, that is why it did not say that about Sopranos. What makes Wire the best TV show of all time is that it essentially made a documentary that gripping and entertaining. There were no major pay offs like the one in the end of this episode or like shoot out earlier in the season. They were not needed. And then the fact that show as about everything and not just one aspect of our society. Reason why, I do not compare other shows with Wire.
Right now BB and Dexter are two best shows on. Tough to separate the two. I like Dexter more but I will say BB is actually better.
It probably was if you missed out on the parts involving Hank and Skyler.It was just about 4 sequences. And how fecking good were all of them..eh?
Walt and Jesse talk
Miké's story
The dispute meeting
Finale
You could not tell it was a 40min plus episode, instead felt like 20 mins long.
Especially the part involving Hanks part.It probably was if you missed out on the parts involving Hank and Skyler.
Could not care less about any of them if I am honest.It probably was if you missed out on the parts involving Hank and Skyler.
Why? She's clearly been developed as Walt's 'enemy'. I doubt you're really supposed to like her anymore.And I do worry for the people who are contemptous of Skyler (and Rita in Dexter).
I was talking in the context of this episode. Main sequences were too gripping to be bothered by other stuff.Really? The show would be so much poorer if it was a plain crime show. And Hank has been the star of the season for me.
And I do worry for the people who are contemptous of Skyler (and Rita in Dexter).
I think her actions and motives remain as reasonable as those of Walt's.Why? She's clearly been developed as Walt's 'enemy'. I doubt you're really supposed to like her anymore.
Ah, ok. I read your two sentences as related. Still, my above comments stand.I was talking in the context of this episode. Main sequences were too gripping to be bothered by other stuff.
Eh? I haven't emasculated him at all.I think her actions and motives remain as reasonable as those of Walt's.
Emasculating Walt? As if it is the pinnacle of masculinity to cook meth! Some of the comments about her, and about Rita in the Dexter thread, smacks of chauvinism, but I suspect that they stem from a (unbalanced) love of the crime/action elements of the series, and Skyler certainly stand in the way of those.
mad men is fecking class.I find Mad Men pretentious rubbish.
I agree she adds a certain necessary entity to the show, no doubt. But she's probably the only character I don't really like. Where as the likes of Saul and Gus are total cnuts yet still very likable as characters for some reason.Yeah, that was crappy's comment.
I just think this is a fantastic show, and that Skyler is one of many reasons why, and I therefor find some of the comments to be harsh and unfair. I think we are supposed to understand the characters rather than like them.
As I say it takes about 4 - 6 episodes in to really get you.Just downloaded the first season.
Shall be giving my opinion soon. You guys better not have let me down here!
Firstly, for the record I think Skylar's role is pivotal to the series. But that does not mean you can find a lot of stuff she does irritating. That is actually one the charms of following a series as good as this.I think her actions and motives remain as reasonable as those of Walt's.
Ah, ok. I read your two sentences as related. Still, my above comments stand.Emasculating Walt? As if it is the pinnacle of masculinity to cook meth! Some of the comments about her, and about Rita in the Dexter thread, smacks of chauvinism, but I suspect that they stem from a (unbalanced) love of the crime/action elements of the series, and Skyler certainly stand in the way of those.
Just watched the first 3 episodes and I'm hooked! It's a slow mover but enough happens to keep you involved.As I say it takes about 4 - 6 episodes in to really get you.
Oh the pace, heh, your in for a nice surprise then. It goes very slowly then explodes. Then goes slowly again. Wait til Heisenberg arrives on the scene.Just watched the first 3 episodes and I'm hooked! It's a slow mover but enough happens to keep you involved.
Not sure if anyone else has said it before but can anyone noticed how much he looks like Ned Flanders?!
What a slag. I'd drop her asap.Made my missus watch the 1st two episodes, and I thought she was enjoying it. Her comment though after shocked me. "I suppose I am interested to see how it turns out, but Im not really arsed"
In otherwords, I aint watching anymore, just tell me what happens instead.
I felt like slapping her. In fact I think I will when I get home tonight.
Brilliantly done, the pair of them can act to. Don't even remember Hal now.feck me, wow. The relationship between Jesse and Walt is geniusly crafted.