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fecking hell the last 30 seconds of that beats the shit out of Hanks gunfight. Wow in fecking deed.
 

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What a fecking episode. BB does dwell into more mainstream shock and awe approach of Hollywood unlike other fellow more grinding shows like Wire and Sopranos but they do it really fecking well.

It was just about 4 sequences. And how fecking good were all of them..eh?

Walt and Jesse talk

Miké's story

The dispute meeting

Finale

You could not tell it was a 40min plus episode, instead felt like 20 mins long.
 

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Seriously, this and Dexter, well done America. You now make the best TV on earth. I liked the Sopranos, the wire etc but this and Dexter beats them all in my eyes. Within an episode they can turn the world upside down.
 

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Also Skylar has come into her own this series. They're all Breaking Bad. Next season it'll be Hank.
 

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Seriously, this and Dexter, well done America. You now make the best TV on earth. I liked the Sopranos, the wire etc but this and Dexter beats them all in my eyes. Within an episode they can turn the world upside down.
In fairness they have always made the best TV. But they are at a new level nowadays.

But even growing up 90% of the stuff I used to watch was American made.
 

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Seriously, this and Dexter, well done America. You now make the best TV on earth. I liked the Sopranos, the wire etc but this and Dexter beats them all in my eyes. Within an episode they can turn the world upside down.
Whoa now, let's not go overboard :D
 

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In fairness they have always made the best TV. But they are at a new level nowadays.

But even growing up 90% of the stuff I used to watch was American made.
The 70's, 80's and early 90's they didn't, especilly in the drama stakes. Mid 90's they suddenly changed and now they're excellent.
Whoa now, let's not go overboard :D
I'm not, where as they were both brilliant series they never packed the emotional punch for me that Braking Bad and Dexter are able to deliver.
 

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Wire is in different league with TV shows because it never too any dramatic license to shock, entertain and or introduce a twist. Dexter and Breaking Bad are still very mainstream in that respect.

And it is actually, Sopranos which is the most emotionally involving out of all these 4 IMO.
 

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Wire is in different league with TV shows because it never too any dramatic license to shock, entertain and or introduce a twist. Dexter and Breaking Bad are still very mainstream in that respect.

And it is actually, Sopranos which is the most emotionally involving out of all these 4 IMO.
Found no matter what I couldn't sympathise with any of the characters in the Sopranos. It also went on to long. Whats this mainstream monikor all about all of a sudden. Theyre drama shows and a damn sight different than the supposed mainstream. If BB and Dex are now mainstream then the Sopranos was the most main stream show ever.
 

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Yeah, that is why it did not say that about Sopranos. What makes Wire the best TV show of all time is that it essentially made a documentary that gripping and entertaining. There were no major pay offs like the one in the end of this episode or like shoot out earlier in the season. They were not needed. And then the fact that show as about everything and not just one aspect of our society. Reason why, I do not compare other shows with Wire.

Right now BB and Dexter are two best shows on. Tough to separate the two. I like Dexter more but I will say BB is actually better.
 

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Yeah, that is why it did not say that about Sopranos. What makes Wire the best TV show of all time is that it essentially made a documentary that gripping and entertaining. There were no major pay offs like the one in the end of this episode or like shoot out earlier in the season. They were not needed. And then the fact that show as about everything and not just one aspect of our society. Reason why, I do not compare other shows with Wire.

Right now BB and Dexter are two best shows on. Tough to separate the two. I like Dexter more but I will say BB is actually better.
Can't argue that, though Mad Men is excellent too, if not quite as good.
 

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It was just about 4 sequences. And how fecking good were all of them..eh?

Walt and Jesse talk

Miké's story

The dispute meeting

Finale

You could not tell it was a 40min plus episode, instead felt like 20 mins long.
It probably was if you missed out on the parts involving Hank and Skyler.
 

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It probably was if you missed out on the parts involving Hank and Skyler.
Could not care less about any of them if I am honest.

Skylar emasculating Walt is getting tedious now even though it is very much needed right now for the plot.
 

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Really? The show would be so much poorer if it was a plain crime show. And Hank has been the star of the season for me.

And I do worry for the people who are contemptous of Skyler (and Rita in Dexter).
 

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And I do worry for the people who are contemptous of Skyler (and Rita in Dexter).
Why? She's clearly been developed as Walt's 'enemy'. I doubt you're really supposed to like her anymore.
 

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Really? The show would be so much poorer if it was a plain crime show. And Hank has been the star of the season for me.

And I do worry for the people who are contemptous of Skyler (and Rita in Dexter).
I was talking in the context of this episode. Main sequences were too gripping to be bothered by other stuff.
 

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Why? She's clearly been developed as Walt's 'enemy'. I doubt you're really supposed to like her anymore.
I think her actions and motives remain as reasonable as those of Walt's.

Emasculating Walt? As if it is the pinnacle of masculinity to cook meth! Some of the comments about her, and about Rita in the Dexter thread, smacks of chauvinism, but I suspect that they stem from a (unbalanced) love of the crime/action elements of the series, and Skyler certainly stand in the way of those.
I was talking in the context of this episode. Main sequences were too gripping to be bothered by other stuff.
Ah, ok. I read your two sentences as related. Still, my above comments stand.
 

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I think her actions and motives remain as reasonable as those of Walt's.

Emasculating Walt? As if it is the pinnacle of masculinity to cook meth! Some of the comments about her, and about Rita in the Dexter thread, smacks of chauvinism, but I suspect that they stem from a (unbalanced) love of the crime/action elements of the series, and Skyler certainly stand in the way of those.
Eh? I haven't emasculated him at all.

Skylar has shown nothing but contempt for Walt since finding out about the meth, she went and 'fecked Ted' and then told him all about it straight away, as if to say that's punishment for what he did. Admittedly in the last few episodes she's improved and is starting to be helpful, and I'm liking her more again now, but previously in the series she was clearly written as Walt's 'enemy', if you will.
 

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Yeah, that was crappy's comment.

I just think this is a fantastic show, and that Skyler is one of many reasons why, and I therefor find some of the comments to be harsh and unfair. I think we are supposed to understand the characters rather than like them.
 

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Yeah, that was crappy's comment.

I just think this is a fantastic show, and that Skyler is one of many reasons why, and I therefor find some of the comments to be harsh and unfair. I think we are supposed to understand the characters rather than like them.
I agree she adds a certain necessary entity to the show, no doubt. But she's probably the only character I don't really like. Where as the likes of Saul and Gus are total cnuts yet still very likable as characters for some reason.
 

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Just downloaded the first season.

Shall be giving my opinion soon. You guys better not have let me down here!
 

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Nah it's quality. I persuaded a load of my mates to start watching it and pretty much all of them are now massive fans.

Latest episode was mint, btw.
 

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Just downloaded the first season.

Shall be giving my opinion soon. You guys better not have let me down here!
As I say it takes about 4 - 6 episodes in to really get you.
 

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I think her actions and motives remain as reasonable as those of Walt's.

Emasculating Walt? As if it is the pinnacle of masculinity to cook meth! Some of the comments about her, and about Rita in the Dexter thread, smacks of chauvinism, but I suspect that they stem from a (unbalanced) love of the crime/action elements of the series, and Skyler certainly stand in the way of those.
Ah, ok. I read your two sentences as related. Still, my above comments stand.
Firstly, for the record I think Skylar's role is pivotal to the series. But that does not mean you can find a lot of stuff she does irritating. That is actually one the charms of following a series as good as this.

Now I will address the emasculation part.

Going back to the start of the series, cooking meth and breaking bad did allow Walt become more of a "man" in conventional or if you like in ancient terms. Before that you could easily tell who wore the pants in that family. That is not to say, Skylar seeked out to do that. In a lot of relationships, the dominant person ends up assuming that role. Even in other ventures Walt suffered due to his weakness, be in losing his business venture or ex-girlfriend.

Skylar stopping him from cooking is meth is not emasculating him. The recent stuff about Skylar now wading into his illegal businesses and once again telling him what to do certainly is. Before that, the Gus character already took a lot of control from Walt and with that the thrill and adrenaline rush being Heisenberg gave him. Now Skylar, wants control of all the money, leaving him at the same point as before when he was a powerless school teacher.
 

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As I say it takes about 4 - 6 episodes in to really get you.
Just watched the first 3 episodes and I'm hooked! It's a slow mover but enough happens to keep you involved.

Not sure if anyone else has said it before but can anyone noticed how much he looks like Ned Flanders?!
 

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Just watched the first 3 episodes and I'm hooked! It's a slow mover but enough happens to keep you involved.

Not sure if anyone else has said it before but can anyone noticed how much he looks like Ned Flanders?!
Oh the pace, heh, your in for a nice surprise then. It goes very slowly then explodes. Then goes slowly again. Wait til Heisenberg arrives on the scene.
 

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Made my missus watch the 1st two episodes, and I thought she was enjoying it. Her comment though after shocked me. "I suppose I am interested to see how it turns out, but Im not really arsed"

In otherwords, I aint watching anymore, just tell me what happens instead.

I felt like slapping her. In fact I think I will when I get home tonight.
 

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Just watched the latest episode, wow. Brilliant stuff.
 

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Made my missus watch the 1st two episodes, and I thought she was enjoying it. Her comment though after shocked me. "I suppose I am interested to see how it turns out, but Im not really arsed"

In otherwords, I aint watching anymore, just tell me what happens instead.

I felt like slapping her. In fact I think I will when I get home tonight.
What a slag. I'd drop her asap.
 

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quick and very rough trailer for the season 3 finale