I don't think that there will be economic meltdown. My concern is that without access to the single market, people will be significantly worse off compared to what they are now. However, if there is a renegotiation and new terms offered, I am also worried that would have a huge negative impact on a large number of voters, for whom out meant out.
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I'm not sure whether you're deliberately wumming but do you blame him for being pissed off about being falsely accused of something so serious? How would you like it if it something like that was levelled at you? I'll also question why only one poster picked up on this false accusation between the time that the post was put on here and Barca84 responding to it. A fair few people read it as there were responses to it - mine included - but despite name-checking Barca84 twice in the post, only one person questioned why he'd been cited. FWIW, I think it could be a simple case of the newbie getting Barca's posts mixed up with someone else's - I'm pretty sure I saw someone else on this thread make some reference about these attacks being exaggerated.
Yes, it was a nice catch-all blanket concession but a lot of what we're seeing is going to be much more damaging than mere short-term difficulties.
What I think of myself is irrelevant, I've just read around the results of this vote extensively and it seems to be a recurring theme that those in the political backwoods of this country who feel abandoned by London voted in protest against it.
As for how you voted, there's 4.1k posts in this thread and I am ashamed to say I have not had the time to read them all yet. You've even restricted access to your profile page so I could not comb back through your previous posts even if I wanted.
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Indeed. It's rather concerning what could happen if we tell a lot of people who voted based on being told we would 'close our borders' that either nothing or little changes with regards to immigration.
I wasn't getting them from anywhere.. just from experience of people in the UK.
Maybe that's a bit high
Are you serious? Over 5 years you have 88% predicting negative consequences and even over 10-20 years it's still 72%, while only 5% or 11% have a positive outlook and you're trying to sell this as a positive?
First time I've seen that. What a complete moron .
If you wanted a good deal from Europe you can say goodbye to that.
He's on a one-man destruction mission of the UK and the problem is people are letting him get away with it and those people are equally moronic.
He isn't. He's trying to sell this as less negative than the tone of this thread.
Posters like this in the top left don't help and fuel and empower the anger. The other images are of old Nazi propaganda.
I'm lost for words with it. Disgusted, embarrassed, scared, angry, no fuming! I also can't believe people ever sided or listened to him. He's an absolute disgrace!
Shades of Iraqi War Minister if you ask me.
I'm telling him to direct some of his anger towards the cause, the people acting out, the people he doesn't want to be associated with. Why direct it at the people pointing it out just because of some misguided us vs them view of the whole situation. We are talking about people being harassed, abused and attacked and some are angry that a correlation has been made with the Leave vote. Had anyone said all Leave voters are racist? Anyone said they are all thick? Sounds like some kind of victim complex...
Who the feck made Farage their MEP?
Dish out some "I told you so, suckers" and personal attacks then call for calm and pragmatic reactions, that man is genius.
Yeah, to say he confuses me is an understatement.
How did UKIP get to be the largest representatives of the UK as MEPs for pity's sake. I despair of the UK
Proportional representation
I believe in leaving the EU but voted remain just because we have these bellends representing us. We can kiss a deal goodbye if this continues.
It's our own fault for saying there is no democracy in the EU when we elect numpties (largely through apathy) like Farage and his clowns.
A newbie accused him of being an apologist and he refuted the allegation while at the same time expressing sympathy for the poster and those that have been on the receiving end of these attacks. What's wrong with that?
And no, there isn't any victim complex from me and I'm sure there isn't from Barca84 either but I'll say this - even if nobody on this or the other threads has universally accused all leave voters of being racist, you on more than one occasion have deliberately stoked the fire when grouping the 2 sets of people together with your "Not all leave voters are racist but all racists voted to leave" mantra. I suggest you wind your neck in and stop trolling.
He asks for a grown-up and sensible attitude during the negotiations and in litterally the next sentence he insults the parliament by saying they haven't had a proper job in their life...
He just wants to make BoJo's life more difficult, no? Hoping to take advantage of this for UKIP in the next general elections?
He just wants to make BoJo's life more difficult, no? Hoping to take advantage of this for UKIP in the next general elections?
Are you kidding me? Throughout this thread, all related brexit threads in this forum, and across vast swathes of social media that is exactly what is happening. I despair.
And who are these people I don't want to be associated with? If you mean racists yes absolutely. If you mean those who voted leave hoping it would improve their lot then absolutely not.
I'm not angry either. But I will fight my corner when it comes to democracy and rights of the people.
I say let them hold the referendum again because, you know what, the leave vote would be even bigger. And it would be bigger as a protest at the audacity of those who have power to ignore the democratic will of the people.
Farage is like a wild, shocking and yet still shit stand up comedian.
I don't know how people don't fall asleep listening to him. It's all predictable and a load of made up guff he's been repeating for years. It's a cult (his following), pretty much.
I don't know how people don't fall asleep listening to him. It's all predictable and a load of made up guff he's been repeating for years. It's a cult (his following), pretty much.
Reminds me of that Braveheart scene where William Wallace winks to his compatriot that he is "going to pick a fight" with his army facing off across a field to their English counterparts, and proceeds to ride across to the waiting English battle avoidance negotiators and taunt the sh*t out of them making a full blown battle inevitable.
Not sure if posted yet: http://www.lbc.co.uk/im-so-scared-no...n-tears-132971
This is the worst part of this whole nonsense its given a voice to the racist idiots. I know some of you leave campaigners had some genuine reasons for wanting to leave but this was enough for you to vote remain. This is what will tear apart britian.
Been hearing from a lot of people since Friday, and my impression is that they aren't running around screaming, convinced the world's about to collapse. Most of them are very worried, though, being in a financial situation that looks vulnerable at the moment. Some have taken hits already, but not to the extent they're positively fecked. They're both shocked and angry, though, there's no question about that.
“It will sort itself out in the long run.”
Alright. It probably will, if you stretch that run long enough. But what's in it for people? What's in it which makes what looks like a ridiculous gamble necessary? I think that's what most of my friends are asking themselves. They don't see the upside. And the Leavers I've talked to in recent weeks have very little to offer in the form of answers: It's vague notions about sovereignty or equally vague notions about the EU being a generally bad thing which we're all better off without. No answers when I ask them precisely how those areas of Britain that do benefit from EU funding (and regulations, for that matter) will be better off under a “sovereign” Tory government.
“It's not the end of the world” is being used as an argument – for what? Not freaking out? Sure, no problem with that.
I just hope it wasn't treated as a reason for voting Leave: “Hey, this probably won't cause irreparable damages, so why the hell not?”
“It will sort itself out in the long run.”
Alright. It probably will, if you stretch that run long enough. But what's in it for people? What's in it which makes what looks like a ridiculous gamble necessary? I think that's what most of my friends are asking themselves. They don't see the upside. And the Leavers I've talked to in recent weeks have very little to offer in the form of answers: It's vague notions about sovereignty or equally vague notions about the EU being a generally bad thing which we're all better off without. No answers when I ask them precisely how those areas of Britain that do benefit from EU funding (and regulations, for that matter) will be better off under a “sovereign” Tory government.
“It's not the end of the world” is being used as an argument – for what? Not freaking out? Sure, no problem with that.
I just hope it wasn't treated as a reason for voting Leave: “Hey, this probably won't cause irreparable damages, so why the hell not?”
So what's the deal here, are the Treasury's educated experts simply displaying a lack of common sense? Or is that expertise can be influenced by politics?
Not those paragons in Remain would ever dream of misleading the public...
Not those paragons in Remain would ever dream of misleading the public...
And we've just had @endless_wheelies calling leave voters "cretins". No ifs no buts. The "left behinds"
I'm not sure what motivates him. I don't even think it is immigration. He loathes the EU and wants to destroy it. No wonder Leave are trying to oust him from any negotiations.
It's an appalling poster but that's what you get from Farage. I think the man is a cnut.
Posters like this in the top left don't help and fuel and empower the anger. The other images are of old Nazi propaganda.
Wind my neck in? Fcuk off...
That's not trolling that's a fact.
EDF is french too and they were meant to be building Nuclear plants. And don't we borrow a lot of electricity from france around peak time, because we can't meet the demand here? I'm not really expert on it, but I wonder if that will have impact.
Just to combat the racism stuff that is happening.
I and a few others I know are leave voters, I am from a majority leave town.
I work in one of the biggest warehouses in the UK which is around 75% eastern european in workforce but I am glad to report no such thing is happening here.
Just goes to show it is the minority that are doing this and they are just using the leave voters as a guise.
I and a few others I know are leave voters, I am from a majority leave town.
I work in one of the biggest warehouses in the UK which is around 75% eastern european in workforce but I am glad to report no such thing is happening here.
Just goes to show it is the minority that are doing this and they are just using the leave voters as a guise.
In this thread? Name names, link the posts... I don't recall seeing any.
Evidently the definition of fact must have altered since last Thursday.
Populist cherry picking only works if you're Nigel Farage doing a speech to leave cretins.
Are you actually going to attempt a response in full to my previous post?
Ok which part do you disagree with out of curiosity?
A. Leave voters aren't all racist.
B. Racists are going to vote leave.
Thanks - that's just about the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me
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Maybe but regardless this kind of thing was easily predictable. The xenophobia going around and the empowerment the racists now feel was enough to vote remain.
He wants to create animosity towards EU to use at the next GE.
What better way of doing that by inflaming both sides of the negotiation.