I'll assume that is relating to the incident with a man who I think is American receiving abuse from some wannabe hardmen. Having watched the video I hoped he would have laid them out as he looked quite big and they were scrawny toerags.
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Thanks - that's just about the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me
Wasn't trying to be mean, just thought you telling me to wind my neck in was taking the piss. No one is calling you personally a racist or thick, but a lot of Leave voters clearly are one or both those things. Don't really care if the thought of that offends you or Barca etc... It is what it is.
I hate Farage.
Yep, and yep.
I was never going to change my vote to placate the xenophobic. They are simply using the outcome as a platform to show their true colours.
It does not mean the majority of leave voters are racist or xenophobic.
I would have a bet that the number of people who say that, including Brexiters, will be increasing steadily over the months and years to come
B of course.
Really? Ok so you hate foreigners and think they should all back their countries, but you want to remain?
You think they are taking your jobs and destroying your country, but hey let them freely come and go, remain.
Really?
Apparently I'm cherry picking calling @endless_wheelies out on this
Likened to Farage 
That's just on the last page. I'm not trawling through the rest of the bile again but it's there for all to see as you well know.
He was just on Sky casting doubt over the hate attacks until Burley assured him they're true.
Well after this fiasco, at least the Great has been restored to Great Britain
I know most politicians lie to a certain degree but this prat takes the biscuit
That guy just posted, after your initial claim too, but fair enough... I guess that proves your point.Apparently I'm cherry picking calling @endless_wheelies out on this
That's just on the last page. I'm not trawling through the rest of the bile again but it's there for all to see as you well know.
No, I guess it doesn't.
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Then you saidApparently I'm cherry picking calling @endless_wheelies out on this
That's just on the last page. I'm not trawling through the rest of the bile again but it's there for all to see as you well know.
Then I said
How much longer do I have to wait for your intelligent rebuttal?
Rebuttal of what Mr Ed?
Yeah but it empowers them and thats a worse effect than anything remaining in the EU would do. Germany weren't racist Nazi's before Hitler but all it takes is a small empowered movement for things to get truly bad. Not saying it would get there but this vote has empowered the absolute worst people in the country. Not everyone that voted leave is terrible but the people who have been empowered are going to be the terrible people.
I've seen some suggesting these racial incidents are "false flags" which is moronic however I don't like the way these incidents are being used by the media to support the narrative that leave voters are all racist. If 52% of the nation was truly racist I really don't believe the UK would be as tolerant as it already is nor would multiculturalism be as widespread as it throughout many cities and towns in England. These incidents are anecdotal, and it's not like they weren't happening already, they just weren't reported as they couldn't support a narrative. I hope the police make example of the offenders which should deter more idiots from engaging in this behaviour.
In all my life I can say that I have never witnessed or heard of a racist incident where I live, whether in work or outside. I live in a "leave" town and today spoke to one of the Asian's that I know who works in the local shop. I asked whether he, or anyone he knew, had been the victim of any racism since the referendum. "No" he said, looking a bit puzzled. Good, I replied. I then asked whether he, or anyone he knew, had ever been on the end of any racism at all. "No" he said. Oh..apart from about 1 year ago. I asked him what happened. He replied that someone had called him a Paki. He was still looking a bit puzzled so I explained that I was on a forum on the internet where people were complaining that racism attacks were increasing. Oh right, he said, well no they haven't but thanks for asking anyway.
Maybe the racist abuse is in certain areas, it seems to be happening in London. It doesn't seem to be happening where I live in the NW anyway.
Why the leavers did fully warn us of the economic dangers of leaving, why my assertions on voting trends are wrong, why I should already know which way you voted.
On second thoughts though don't bother, I originally aimed to engage you in debate because I was curious as to what the big stink about you in this thread was. I have my answer however.
Good post. No doubt some plankton think the referendum result is a green card for some racial abuse. Let's hope the authorities make a lesson of them.
And yes it does feel as though these incidents are being used by the thwarted remain campaign as part of an ongoing points scoring exercise.
We've a multi cultural society and like all multi cultural societies there are racial tensions. Thankfully we have developed, largely due to the acknowledgement of racism past and present, a very robust criminal justice system for dealing with this sort of stuff. It's a system that some of our neighbours have much to learn from.
Excellent because I doubt very much there is anything for me to be gained from entering into debate with a man who thinks the entire leave vote are "cretins"
So that's saved us both a job eh? Next!
Multi-cultural society, oh good
Will Absolute clears things up with regards to racist reports: Remainers suggesting the vote has unleashed a flood of racism when it hasn't
Racist incidents occur all the time, but the media generally ignore them, preferring to present a dubious picture of racial harmony - everybody, or almost everybody, living happily together in a multicultural, multi-ethnic society. Now it's in the liberal interest to do the reverse: to suggest that this vote, which they abominate, has unleashed a flood of racism which did not previously exist.
I suspect Britain will return to its normal level of racial discontent once things settle down.
I suspect Britain will return to its normal level of racial discontent once things settle down.
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About the 2 racist thugs on the tram in Manchester, Farage says
"I would say to them if they had those feelings, those feelings should not as strong this week as they were last week"
Now does this mean it's ok to have those feelings but don't worry they'll all be gone soon.
Or does he suggest to the moronic racists that this week the borders are now closed so no more will be coming
What does he mean, please clarify Mr Farage, I mean , I wouldn't dare to call you racist
"I would say to them if they had those feelings, those feelings should not as strong this week as they were last week"
Now does this mean it's ok to have those feelings but don't worry they'll all be gone soon.
Or does he suggest to the moronic racists that this week the borders are now closed so no more will be coming
What does he mean, please clarify Mr Farage, I mean , I wouldn't dare to call you racist
I like how he basically makes an excuse for them at the end. "I'd say to them... They'd have done it regardless of the result."
What's so hard about "I'd tell them to shut the hell up"?
I haven't seen anyone (in this thread) suggesting that the vote has generated attitudes that weren't already there, or that it has increased the number of xenophobes in the UK: What people have suggested is that certain elements have been empowered by the vote, which seems to be the case. Instances of school children being taunted and told they're not wanted in the country, or elderly women of German descent being hassled by their neighbours, weren't commonplace (but, remarkably, not covered by any media outlet) before the vote.
This entire phenomenon (what people experience as a development for the worse in terms of openly expressed hostility) can't be dreamed up by hysterical Remainers. I don't buy that for one second. It will hopefully be a temporary surge – but that doesn't mean it's some sort of illusion created by the media.
This entire phenomenon (what people experience as a development for the worse in terms of openly expressed hostility) can't be dreamed up by hysterical Remainers. I don't buy that for one second. It will hopefully be a temporary surge – but that doesn't mean it's some sort of illusion created by the media.
The establishment is against me 
Nigel Farage is mostly a clown, but I must say that I loved him ripping into the EU representatives.
"None of you have ever had a real job"
"None of you have ever had a real job"
Why are pro-Brexit Sky reporting them?
I think it perfectly plausible that someone of a xenophobic or racist disposition, was won over by the government's scaremongering on the economy. Alternatively, the group to which said person is offensive, might not have been a factor in the referendum (anti-Semitism for instance).
I lost all faith in Krugman about six months ago, when he went batshit crazy during the US Democratic primaries.
As for the recession, it could well be mild, then again another random event, or a bad economic turn for another part of the world (how about from our largest trading partner the EU for instance?) could make a mild recession into a horrific one. No-one knows what is around the corner, so you try and mitigate risk any chance you get, you don't deliberately worsen things in the hope they'll become better later.
I keep thinking Fallout the game when i see this thread, gotta finish that game...
I don't follow...
Seems pretty clear to me.
@Nick 0208 Ldn is right, you could be racist and still vote remain. I mean fact of the matter is you might not want to wreck the economy and still hate "the blacks".
Were there not signs that the economy was already slowing down prior to the commencement of campaigning? Much of it attributable to Osborne's failure to invest, and the strictures of further cuts.
It doesn't sound likely to me... Maybe we should agree to disagree? I must admit I don't know the inner workings of the racist mind.
Didn't think I was saying anything controversial to be fair, most racist organisations have been promoting brexit haven't they?