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Stactix

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So I saw on the BBC that if parliament decide to remain in the single market.
It means Uk will still have to pay into the EU & the free movement remains the same..


I'm not to famillar with politics.
So if this occurs, does that mean 90% of voters voted leave for no fecking reason?

I spent so long taking the piss out of Americans for thinking Trump was a remastered Jesus reincarnated.
And then the UK population does this :(
 

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Did you even read the post? I never mentioned anything about Irish banks or politicians being 'absolved' from anything. You do know that Ireland was forced into a bailout right?
Which was caused by the bankers and politicians. And the point being made was that the bailout and austerity was effectively a success. It wasn't fun and yes the wrong people were held accountable but with something like an economy unfortunately you don't get to hang around for justice. you have to act immediately to stop the rot and the Irish people banded together to do it.
 

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Yeah yeah, but what about the football?
Football will be replaced by a new sport, played by mutated dwarves who will be suspended 500 feet in the air and dropped onto 8 foot tall giants holding spiked clubs, who will hit them into a jet plane engine. The goal will be rewarded to whoever can spray the audience in the most blood and every half time will be a huge brawl of the audience as they scramble to eat the bloody remainso left on the field.

Sports will be scarce though as frequent attacks from the **** state of the new dominant religion Borisamy terrorises the local villagers, forcing them ton take shelter in abandoned rabbit holes.
 

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Of course it's pure speculating from me, I'm just saying what might happen. Obviously Britain might go to shite and ask politely to be taken back in for what it's worth.
Yep, and we will be forced to accept all the things we just voted away from - while also losing our voice in Europe and at the same time enduring a recession right up to that point. It's all bollocks. We shouldn't have to suffer for years because people bought the lies of people who are already backtracking on them. What's done is done, and democracy has spoken but that doesn't change that this is idiotic.
 

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Lot of bullshit right there as well.
And as far as I'm aware, your economy does fare quite well again doesn't it?
By the way, partly because the EU allows you dumping taxes. So it's not like you are not trying to screw others over, everyone does it, get off your high horse.
Our economy is propped up by direct foreign investment from the USA. Ireland is the biggest receiver of inward investment from the US in the world. So, in what alternate universe does money from the US increasing the Irish GDP have anything to do with Europe, other than Europe trying to control Ireland corporate tax rate in an effort to redirect that investment to the European centre.

And the EU does not allow us to do anything with taxes, Ireland like all European states is tax sovereign. Maybe you didnt know that. So get off your high horse.
 

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Apart from fuel/energy prices (oil, coal and gas imports will be priced in $/€) and probably interest rate rises although it's still hard to know how/when the BoE will call that one.
Of course prices on commodities will always change from day to day like they always do in an free market.
 

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one of our main suppliers in the UK have just told us they wont be shipping anything to us for the time being

I have been officially affected by brexit
 

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In France the problems are local, it has nothing to do with the EU. People don't care about Brussel, you shouldn't listen to the press who gives way too much credit to Le Pen or Melenchon, they are both idiots and liars.
Noted mate.

Yep, I get it.

Mikke is a bellend of the highest order. I was once convinced by a mate to go to his 2-day convention with all the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime from his party being there. It was hilarious but at the same time absolutely scary how insane those people were, I've never seen such density of idiots in one place.
Wouldn't worry much about Korwin to be fair, it's well known that his electorate is still stuck in junior high school.
 

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No It is done. We are leaving the EU.

Over 65s voted overwhelming in favour of leaving the EU while the younger generation, who will live with the consequences, voted stronger to remain but it wasn't enough.
I have an idea. Look, just shove all these old geezers over to Wales(heard it's nice over there), declare Wales to being the UK, and found a new nation together with the Scots and the Northern Irish.:D
 

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Nothing will change in the immediate future it will probably take at least 2 years before you will see some real changes to your everyday life.

Thanks for the response. Although with the pound dropping aren't we already seeing changes? I guess everyones expecting that to go back to normal soon...
 

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Best case scenario right now is that once this all settles down, the seriousness of the situation is highlighted and the true colour of the leave campaign is brought to light and after further EU negotiations Britain gets a better deal and a second referendum sees us remain.

#Wishfulthinking
 

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Cameron's last derisory attempt to do this showed him asking for less than he originally said he'd ask for..... and then not even getting that. So "change from within" was not going to be possible.
Maybe I'm wrong but my undestanding was that all 27 countries had agreed to what he wanted. The EU is constantly negotiating with each other...it's how they come to decisions. Anyway, too late for all that. I just hope the Leave lot actually have a plan and aren't sat around their breakfast tables saying "Oh shit! Now what the hell do we do?"
 

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Christ, what a fecking toad of a man.
Dead right. Stirs up a hornets nest and walks away. Lazy b*****d. didn't even turn up for work when he was an MEP. Now he's got what he want he should be made to work his balls off to ensure that the people of this country benefit like he said they would.
 

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Thanks for the response. Although with the pound dropping aren't we already seeing changes? I guess everyones expecting that to go back to normal soon...
Of course the markets will change from day to day like they always do. I was talking about changing laws and GB leaving the EU and that will not happen overnight.
 

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Which was caused by the bankers and politicians. And the point being made was that the bailout and austerity was effectively a success. It wasn't fun and yes the wrong people were held accountable but with something like an economy unfortunately you don't get to hang around for justice. you have to act immediately to stop the rot and the Irish people banded together to do it.
No, the bailout completed, calling it a success is a complete arse about face way of saying that it was a complete disaster that resulted in mass emigration of young people, a lost generation of 39% unemployed from age 18 - 25. People lost everything, people with children who need special care left to fend for themselves. How the feck is that a success? But Europe did well enough out of it. We will pay them billions in interest for being the victim of a lassie faire approach to banking regulation implemented by the European Union.
 

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Of course the markets will change from day to day like they always do. I was talking about changing laws and GB leaving the EU and that will not happen overnight.
1-2 years is a short time for economy, you had lost 350billions in just 5 hours, it's like being hit by a truck, the first hit is the biggest, the rest is just comma
 

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no we didnt get a 70 billion bailout from them. We got a loan which we have to pay back. And bankers are bankers, Irish / German. Why would Germany refuse to let us burn bank investors in Ireland yet they are able to burn bank investors in Germany?
That's what a bailout is. So yes, we absolutely did get a Bailout.

Ask yourself - what exactly would we have done without that loan?

The idea that the EU hasn't been a great thing for Ireland over the last few decades is short-sighted and daft, quite frankly. And we're now going to see a large loss of GDP due to Britain leaving it. Now imagine if we no longer had free-trade with every other EU country, access to their workforce, and most importantly, large multi-national companies being able to use Dublin as their international headquarters, which would never have happened if we weren't in the EU.
 

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Manchester 60.4 % to remain.

Biggest cities voted to remain as I understand?
 

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Gibraltar - Are they going to want to leave the UK or the EU if they have to make a choice

Ireland - not sure how that will go (boarders? - unification referendum? - carry on as they are?)

Some big issues to try and resolve beyond the immediate and obvious Scotland and article 50 issues
 

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Can someone quickly sum up what this means to someone who has literally no idea? I know as much as someone who'd just fell onto this planet.
Leave won a public vote to break ties with Europe, based on a lot of misinformation and straight up lies.

So less jobs, less government investment, weaker services (NHS/schools), poorer opportunities for the young, weaker security, less say on European matters etc. Certainly over the next 5-10 years. By which point we'll be significantly behind other nations.
 

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Did you even read the post? I never mentioned anything about Irish banks or politicians being 'absolved' from anything. You do know that Ireland was forced into a bailout right?
Thing is, these bailouts aren't an EU problem. That is just a symptom and key element of state capitalism which is not something that will go away. Chomsky is right in this one at least: in the current capitalist systems, risks and negative consequences are socialised while profits are privatised.

This is a problem with the EU as well. But simply calling it quits and disbanding it won't solve the problem, only exacerbate it.
 

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Can someone quickly sum up what this means to someone who has literally no idea? I know as much as someone who'd just fell onto this planet.
Well, then you know exactly as much as the best informed person on the planet on this matter.
It's really difficult to make a 100% correct prediction. There are too many unknowns and too many variable factors.
 

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Noted mate.
I will give you an example, Marine Le Pen is/was for the mass regularization of fraudulent migrants, it was a her job as a lawyer but she didn't had any money so daddy gave her a job, her party is locally the worst when it comes to subventions and social care, they want to give it to everyone but when they are on the national scene they pretend that they are against it.
 

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Gibraltar - Are they going to want to leave the UK or the EU if they have to make a choice

Ireland - not sure how that will go (boarders? - unification referendum? - carry on as they are?)

Some big issues to try and resolve beyond the immediate and obvious Scotland and article 50 issues
Ireland will be massively affected by the exit, in a very negative way for the next few years at least.

Long term it could lead to unification of the country and stronger foreign investment due to us being the only English speaking country left in the EU, but short term, we're in trouble.
 

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Manchester 60.4 % to remain.

Biggest cities voted to remain as I understand?
Bristol 63%, my home city, proud of that.
 

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That's what a bailout is. So yes, we absolutely did get a Bailout.

Ask yourself - what exactly would we have done without that loan?

The idea that the EU hasn't been a great thing for Ireland over the last few decades is short-sighted and daft, quite frankly. And we're now going to see a large loss of GDP due to Britain leaving it. Now imagine if we no longer had free-trade with every other EU country, access to their workforce, and most importantly, large multi-national companies being able to use Dublin as their international headquarters, which would never have happened if we weren't in the EU.
Well, we wouldnt have had to do anything because the very essense of capitalism is profit and loss. The bank would have lost, the billionaires who owned shares would have lost some of their money, as is what would be expected in a capitalist system. We can only guess as to what effect it might have had on the Irish economy and Irish jobs.

Now you are short sighted and daft because you equate the success of Irelands economy with being part of Europe. Tell me, what percentage of Irish exports go to European countries? Our biggest trading partners now, Britain and the US are not in Europe. We have lost more than we have gained. But you are obviously placated by shiny european union signs on the sides of roads.
 

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Yep, I get it.

Mikke is a bellend of the highest order. I was once convinced by a mate to go to his 2-day convention with all the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime from his party being there. It was hilarious but at the same time absolutely scary how insane those people were, I've never seen such density of idiots in one place.
Come to Hungary and I'll take you to a Jobbik convention. Then we can rate and compare our idiots! Such fun.
 

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Didn't Farage work in EU parliament? It's a bit of irony isn't it?

And he was constantly shitting on EU when we were negotiating our way to the EU and was warning us it's a bad thing and it's better to stay out.
 

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Football will be replaced by a new sport, played by mutated dwarves who will be suspended 500 feet in the air and dropped onto 8 foot tall giants holding spiked clubs, who will hit them into a jet plane engine. The goal will be rewarded to whoever can spray the audience in the most blood and every half time will be a huge brawl of the audience as they scramble to eat the bloody remainso left on the field.

Sports will be scarce though as frequent attacks from the **** state of the new dominant religion Borisamy terrorises the local villagers, forcing them ton take shelter in abandoned rabbit holes.
I'm in.
 

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So I saw on the BBC that if parliament decide to remain in the single market.
It means Uk will still have to pay into the EU & the free movement remains the same..


I'm not to famillar with politics.
So if this occurs, does that mean 90% of voters voted leave for no fecking reason?

I spent so long taking the piss out of Americans for thinking Trump was a remastered Jesus reincarnated.
And then the UK population does this :(
That is exactly what it means, yes.
 

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1-2 years is a short time for economy, you had lost 350billions in just 5 hours, it's like being hit by a truck, the first hit is the biggest, the rest is just comma
In the coming months I think there will be a high degree of uncertainty about what will happen now that will make the financial markets very volatile. But as you say in the long run 1-2 years is a relatively short time and the long terms effect on this vote are very hard to predict.
 

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I've been very vocal about how dumb voting out has been in the office discussions, knowing full well a guy who voted leave could hear me who kept his head down and actually looked a bit ashamed. I need his assistance with something now. :lol: FFS