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Top three are not a good standard tbf.
Is this a joke?
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As bad as those 3 are, Stalin still has them beat and Churchill was a great war leader but a horrible racist.
She got that one right though. Her comment ist Spot on.Feck Jo Swinson
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That's what the Brexiters believe.At least its British made regulations.
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By today's standard, most people were probably racist back then.Is this a joke?
As bad as those 3 are, Stalin still has them beat and Churchill was a great war leader but a horrible racist.
To a degree, but Churchill was racist for that day's standards as well. We're not talking the middle ages here, after all.By today's standard, most people were probably racist back then.
Plus the whole starving 3 million people to death.To a degree, but Churchill was racist for that day's standards as well. We're not talking the middle ages here, after all.
Twitter said:Just received notification from the Mail on Sunday that, in a week in which I have received death threats, they are tomorrow going to publish my private address.
Classy stuffJo Maugham QC, Brexit opponent:
They told it like it was.To a degree, but Churchill was racist for that day's standards as well. We're not talking the middle ages here, after all.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ics-not-when-cameron-and-johnson-come-callingThe Queen is a sham head of state. She cannot act as a constitutional president and force rival politicians to look for ways out of a national emergency. She cannot insist that the prime minister obeys the rules, because there are too few rules in Britain and too many woozy, unenforceable conventions.
Elizabeth II’s strength came from being “above politics”. Now even that pose – how can a head of state be above politics? – has been exposed, as Buckingham Palace’s “displeasure and annoyance” at David Cameron reveals. It is not angry because he “dragged the Queen into politics” but because he revealed that she happily got stuck in without the need for dragging.
If conference does not push him to a clearer brexit position I think they might actually get less votes than the libs in a snap geCorbyn says UK could be better off outside EU if right deal available
Here is the full exchange with Andrew Marr where Jeremy Corbyn said the UK could be better off outside the EU than inside in some circumstances.
AM: One of your first jobs [as PM] is go to Brussels and negotiate a new Brexit deal … In that context, is it your view that Britain is better off inside the European Union or better off, long-term, outside the European Union? Which?
JC: [It] depends on the agreement you have with the European Union outside.
AM: So we could be better off outside, therefore?
JC: Listen, what I’ve tried to do all along is recognise the result of the referendum and respect it. That’s what we said in our 2017 manifesto, which is why we voted before that to invoke article 50 … We have consistently put forward what I believe to be a credible option, which is what we call the five pillars which is the customs union, the trade relationship, protection of consumer, environmental and workers’ rights, and of course, the Good Friday agreement and the peace process …
I recognise the majority of Labour party supporters and members support remain and supported remain, but a significant minority voted the other way.
Unicorns it is then. If the UK has exactly the same benefits outside the EU as inside the EU.
I think his position has been clear - he's trying to please the remainers by conning them into believing he can do a fantasy deal and trying to please the leavers by actually leaving. That's only going to work for his loyal supporters who would vote for him whatever he did or said. It's not them who need convincing .If conference does not push him to a clearer brexit position I think they might actually get less votes than the libs in a snap ge
Sadly it seems purging blairites still takes priority
He also came up with the Black and Tans.Plus the whole starving 3 million people to death.
A recent poll said I think 70% of people find his current stance unclearI think his position has been clear - he's trying to please the remainers by conning them into believing he can do a fantasy deal and trying to please the leavers by actually leaving. That's only going to work for his loyal supporters who would vote for him whatever he did or said. It's not them who need convincing .
I read the headline about a better deal and just sighed. It is so disingenuous. He’s never earning the trust of remain voters with nonsense like that.I think his position has been clear - he's trying to please the remainers by conning them into believing he can do a fantasy deal and trying to please the leavers by actually leaving. That's only going to work for his loyal supporters who would vote for him whatever he did or said. It's not them who need convincing .
Or most brexit voters who feel the current deal is too closely alignedI read the headline about a better deal and just sighed. It is so disingenuous. He’s never earning the trust of remain voters with nonsense like that.
Michael Collins had the chance to punch the fecker in the head and didn't take it.He also came up with the Black and Tans.
May's blue unicorns were criticised at the time, the same as Corbyn's red unicorns. May's original proposals were not possible which was evident from the beginning and Corbyn's proposal are not possible. Wishful thinking will not change that. You say people are entrenched in their positions. Corbyn followers, especially if they are remainers must surely realise Corbyn is talking rubbish but they won't admit it.Labours position to have a second referendum is quite clear. To me it seems the logical route. Our country is currently in stalemate, torn between direct democracy vs parliamentary democracy. A second referendum seems the most logical way to go.
What the options will be on the potential for an improved deal are yet to be confirmed. But it's well known the May and Johnson have both demonstrated failings during negotiations and lacked a collaborative approach. May not consulting with parliament along cross party lines during negotiation and Johnson only seemingly preparing for a dictated no deal!
All negotiations with the EU have been led by the Conservative party. The EU have been much more open to input from Corbyn than Theresa May or Johnson.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...parliament-theresa-may-backstop-a8767931.html
The Labour and Corbyn critics will jump on any stance taken it seems. As stated above, Labours stance is a second referendum with the potential of a better deal being negotiated.
Whether this will resonate with remain and leave voters who are deeply entrenched in their positions is yet to be seen.
The Labour Brexit does not exist and never will , what's wrong with you all?. There is the Withdrawal Agreement , there is no deal, there is Remain and there is Brexit in Name only which is Remain but having no vote..Leave wins a 2020 referendum, what's the best outcome? A Labour Brexit, Mays Brexit or No Deal.
I think we all know it's the former and yet some don't want Labour to bother negotiating a deal and would rather they just ignore the possibility that remain might not win.
The EU doesn't agree with your stance, we've had this discussion countless times. The WA is the WA under current red lines only.The Labour Brexit does not exist and never will , what's wrong with you all?. There is the Withdrawal Agreement , there is no deal, there is Remain and there is Brexit in Name only which is Remain but having no vote..
Who said the EU doesn't agree; for pity's sake. The watered down Brexit is Brexit in Name only - that's changing the red lines to staying in the customs union and the single market and no vote - well that should make everyone happy.The EU doesn't agree with your stance, we've had this discussion countless times. The WA is the WA under current red lines only.
We know you take Labours wishlist as something that will never change, the reality is if they get power they will water down brexit.
Oh no... Not the customs union... A customs union... One where we are allowed to strike our own trade deals around the world yet we still get say on any future EU deals ... Isnt that what they have said before... Aka unicornsWho said the EU doesn't agree; for pity's sake. The watered down Brexit is Brexit in Name only - that's changing the red lines to staying in the customs union and the single market and no vote - well that should make everyone happy.
Bewildering.
Do you want me to provide a long list of quotes, barnier has always reiterated than they will move quickly if the UK want a closer relationship. Plenty if not all would end up in the PC rather than WA but they're a package as far as passing through the commons.Who said the EU doesn't agree; for pity's sake. The watered down Brexit is Brexit in Name only - that's changing the red lines to staying in the customs union and the single market and no vote - well that should make everyone happy.
Bewildering.
I'm sure you'd rather they didn't bother and let us go out on Mays deal.Oh no... Not the customs union... A customs union... One where we are allowed to strike our own trade deals around the world yet we still get say on any future EU deals ... Isnt that what they have said before... Aka unicorns
Of course the EU would be happy with a closer relationship - BINO, nothing changes, the UK still pay and they can't vote. Best possible outcome for the EU -it's better than if the UK Remain.Do you want me to provide a long list of quotes, barnier has always reiterated than they will move quickly if the UK want a closer relationship. Plenty if not all would end up in the PC rather than WA but they're a package as far as passing through the commons.
Whether people are happy are not is irrelevant. They'll have the choice if they'd rather stay.
I'd rather remain actually.I'm sure you'd rather they didn't bother and let us go out on Mays deal.
That's not an option in a leave win scenario so irrelevant.I'd rather remain actually.
Their answer will always be another referendum until Remain finally wins.That's not an option in a leave win scenario so irrelevant.
It's still an option right now then isn't itThat's not an option in a leave win scenario so irrelevant.
Exactly Remain lost the first ballot, if there is to be a second referendum, that option should not be on the paper. You cannot change the result of the first referendum before you have implemented the result, by including a losing option on the new ballot and saying try again, it makes no sense whatsoever.That's not an option in a leave win scenario so irrelevant.