Bruno Fernandes image 8

Bruno Fernandes Portugal flag

2021-22 Performances


View full 2021-22 profile

5.2 Season Average Rating
Appearances
46
Goals
10
Assists
13
Yellow cards
10
Status
Not open for further replies.

Godfather

Full Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Messages
29,923
Location
Austria
No idea why he is playing the furthest up front at times. Needs to drop deeper in games like these and help our cm out
 

KennyBurner

New Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Messages
4,673
Location
ATL
I don't think you are wrong, Ronaldo will definitely occupy the same areas, and the other forwards will need to develop some sort of understanding who moves where, and Bruno will need to play a bit deeper than second striker and try to make late runs when an opportunity arises.

The way he played today means he will crowd out Ronaldo
Shouldnt be a problem if our manager does his Job. Simply tell bruno he isnt our main attacker and to focus on securing our midfield. Problem solved.
 

berbatrick

Renaissance Man
Scout
Joined
Oct 22, 2010
Messages
21,645

Look at our attacking midfielder during our buildup. It must be a sickness. Wont offer himself for a fecking pass. This has been the case since last season and Ole still wont make any adjustments. Roy keane should be calling this out instead of chatting shite about Fred and Pogba.
tbf that was the one spell in the game we looked dangerous. ball was being won back quickly, and pogba was pinging it over the top/out wide.
 

Poborsky's hair

Full Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2020
Messages
1,721
Supports
Bohemians 1905
We finally replaced Nani in the team, when on song absolute world class, capable of moments of absolute magic but comeone the bottom level is attrocious and unlike Pogba or others he's playing in his prefered positions, he should be called out much more or even benched. Noone shoul dbe untouchable. So manc outside of the foot fancy hollywood passes instead of picking up the right option.

If you counted his bad games for us compared to the good ones it would be certainly more than 70% to 30%, often bailed out by statistics and goals from pens. You absolutely expect some goal and assist return form a players who is focal point of Manchester fecking United taking all freekicks, pens and even corners, playing high risk football all game. Quite unfair to players like Pogba whose skillset is much wider so is played out of positions, if he played instead of Bruno or at least at his preffered advanced positions he would have 30 assists per season and 15 goals + then count the possible G+As from freekicks and pentalties..

This is only to open some people's eyes because hee's quite a problematic player and despite being poor for most of the time with us, he's given Cantona status already while underpefroming most of the time.
 

KennyBurner

New Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Messages
4,673
Location
ATL
tbf that was the one spell in the game we looked dangerous. ball was being won back quickly, and pogba was pinging it over the top/out wide.
The problem is those pogba crosses never work out and just like that fred is being slutted out to a counter attack. We might have to fly a plane telling ole to instruct bruno to sit deeper.
 

E-mal

Full Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2017
Messages
3,576
He's becoming gradually a problem in the team.
Same feeling really. He gets the stats but generally his play makes us less dominant in midfield. He is playing as a forward and leaving the midfield exposed.
 

OmarUnited4ever

Full Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2021
Messages
3,438
Shouldnt be a problem if our manager does his Job. Simply tell bruno he isnt our main attacker and to focus on securing our midfield. Problem solved.
Not only securing the midfield, but also adding creativity to it , he is capable of creating goal scoring chances, and when Ronaldo/Cavan/Greenwood and Rashford are together on the pitch that means he would not need to participate in the responsibility of getting on the end of chances ...
 

pratyush_utd

Can't tell DeGea and Onana apart.
Joined
Aug 30, 2017
Messages
8,431
tbf that was the one spell in the game we looked dangerous. ball was being won back quickly, and pogba was pinging it over the top/out wide.
I think it was more down to Pogba and Fred getting some control back in Midfield. He is extremely good in making those runs but with Ronaldo, Cavani, Sancho Greenwood Rashford and Martial don't think we need him to do what he was doing before. He has played further back for Sporting and we need him to stop our midfield from getting overrun. We were outnumbered today in Midfield and he was still playing as number 9
 

Dominos

Full Member
Joined
Jul 5, 2009
Messages
7,004
Location
Manchester

Look at our attacking midfielder during our buildup. It must be a sickness. Wont offer himself for a fecking pass. This has been the case since last season and Ole still wont make any adjustments. Roy keane should be calling this out instead of chatting shite about Fred and Pogba.
I often talk about the lack of cohesion and understanding between our players. Why do we need 4 players making the exact same run in behind the defence?
 

Pogue Mahone

The caf's Camus.
Joined
Feb 22, 2006
Messages
133,899
Location
"like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons

Look at our attacking midfielder during our buildup. It must be a sickness. Wont offer himself for a fecking pass. This has been the case since last season and Ole still wont make any adjustments. Roy keane should be calling this out instead of chatting shite about Fred and Pogba.
Bit of a stupid observation (and tweet) really. Bruno’s forward runs had him clean through twice. Once marginally offside and once denied by a poor first touch. Which is better than any other attacking player today. And the reason he’s our top scorer so far this season. He also created our best chance in the first half by coming short to flick the ball through for Greenwood. Bizarre thing to get worked up about.
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,724

Look at our attacking midfielder during our buildup. It must be a sickness. Wont offer himself for a fecking pass. This has been the case since last season and Ole still wont make any adjustments. Roy keane should be calling this out instead of chatting shite about Fred and Pogba.
There are images which shows Fred was in more advanced position than Bruno, Same with Pogba too.

Bruno was all over the place as usual, he drops deep, moves wide, makes the run beating offside traps. His pass map shows that too, that he was involved all over the pitch from middle third to final third.
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,724
Bit of a stupid observation (and tweet) really. Bruno’s forward runs had him clean through twice. Once marginally offside and once denied by a poor first touch. Which is better than any other attacking player today. And the reason he’s our top scorer so far this season. Bizarre thing to get worked up about.
It's poor point too, using one image or one piece of play from 90 mins to say he doesn't help build up play when he is involved all over the pitch.

Heat map and passmap from wolves game.

 

berbatrick

Renaissance Man
Scout
Joined
Oct 22, 2010
Messages
21,645
I think it was more down to Pogba and Fred getting some control back in Midfield. He is extremely good in making those runs but with Ronaldo, Cavani, Sancho Greenwood Rashford and Martial don't think we need him to do what he was doing before. He has played further back for Sporting and we need him to stop our midfield from getting overrun. We were outnumbered today in Midfield and he was still playing as number 9
I agree with all that. Just annoyed with the time that photo was taken, 45-65 is when we looked good.
 

Pogue Mahone

The caf's Camus.
Joined
Feb 22, 2006
Messages
133,899
Location
"like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons
It's poor point too, using one image or one piece of play from 90 mins to say he doesn't help build up play when he is involved all over the pitch.

Heat map and passmap from wolves game.

Everywhere as usual. Absolutely ludicrous to have a go at him for not making himself available for a pass :rolleyes:
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,724
Everywhere as usual. Absolutely ludicrous to have a go at him for not making himself available for a pass :rolleyes:
Yeah, there are few posters who keeps saying this when he is all over the pitch whole game.

Next time someone should take a pic of Kante in the attacking box and blame him for not helping team defensively or the pic of a CB when they make their usual 1 run per game.
 

The Substitute

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Dec 3, 2020
Messages
129
Off course he should have strengthened the 2 mfs. I can barely remember he was involved in any link-up play at all.

He makes the runs, but he created more unbalance than threat. We can't win the second balls in the mid when we are constantly outnumbered or 1v1 against the best 1v1 player in the league
 

MattofManchester

Full Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2018
Messages
3,789
Can't really understand why Bruno is being blamed for lack of structure.

The whole attack was disjointed and isolated for most of the match.
 

Cassidy

No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser
Joined
Oct 2, 2013
Messages
31,468
Can't really understand why Bruno is being blamed for lack of structure.

The whole attack was disjointed and isolated for most of the match.
Yes because we got dominated in midfield. Where Bruno was missing from
 

Oldtraffordboy

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Oct 18, 2020
Messages
199
He played way too high today.

Did not link up the play at all, and was just trying to get on the end of Pogba long balls.
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,462
That one tweet is not a good point to try and push something. I could understand if it was a thread of showing this happening time and time again.
However, I do think he needed to drop a but more today to basically make it a three man midfield especially first half.

He gets wound up way too easily and yes, as probably has been mentioned, he plays with an edge, but he tries to ref the match too much.

Id like to see stats on his passing, cos it seems like he always goes for a killer ball all the time, even when teams are coming back at us easily, and you just want to keep the ball and take the sting out of their play.
 

Mr Smith

Full Member
Joined
Oct 4, 2015
Messages
4,020
Location
Australia
He's becoming gradually a problem in the team.
He's not a problem in of himself, it's where he's being told to play, which is basically as a striker. He wasn't doing this when he first arrived. Of you go back and watch his first 10 games, he was fabulous at taking up pockets of space, but we didn't have as many or as good attacking options then. We need him to stop playing like a striker and more like a midfielder.

I don't know if it's Ole's decision to play him so high or if Bruno is just doing it naturally, but it's the biggest thing that needs to change.
 

Teja

Full Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2014
Messages
5,826
He's not a problem in of himself, it's where he's being told to play, which is basically as a striker. He wasn't doing this when he first arrived. Of you go back and watch his first 10 games, he was fabulous at taking up pockets of space, but we didn't have as many or as good attacking options then. We need him to stop playing like a striker and more like a midfielder.

I don't know if it's Ole's decision to play him so high or if Bruno is just doing it naturally, but it's the biggest thing that needs to change.
Think a bit of both. His natural tendency is to play in almost a Rooney like role as a second striker. That's where he's the most dangerous, but if we're overwhelmed, he does drop deep and help out.

I think Ole instructs him to stay up as well and let the CMs do the leg work around transitioning the ball to him higher up the pitch. For Portgual, he plays much deeper (and is much less effective).

It'll be interesting to see what happens when Ronaldo comes in. Cavani / Greenwood put in the workrate when they start at CF, Ronaldo won't.
 

lloyd2wayne

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Nov 11, 2012
Messages
333
Location
Philadelphia
We finally replaced Nani in the team, when on song absolute world class, capable of moments of absolute magic but comeone the bottom level is attrocious and unlike Pogba or others he's playing in his prefered positions, he should be called out much more or even benched. Noone shoul dbe untouchable. So manc outside of the foot fancy hollywood passes instead of picking up the right option.

If you counted his bad games for us compared to the good ones it would be certainly more than 70% to 30%, often bailed out by statistics and goals from pens. You absolutely expect some goal and assist return form a players who is focal point of Manchester fecking United taking all freekicks, pens and even corners, playing high risk football all game. Quite unfair to players like Pogba whose skillset is much wider so is played out of positions, if he played instead of Bruno or at least at his preffered advanced positions he would have 30 assists per season and 15 goals + then count the possible G+As from freekicks and pentalties..

This is only to open some people's eyes because hee's quite a problematic player and despite being poor for most of the time with us, he's given Cantona status already while underpefroming most of the time.
Go to sleep :lol:
 

Becks00

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jun 25, 2020
Messages
403
I'm just so glad Ronaldo is coming in, it would surely put an end to the stupid tactic of playing him as a striker. Ole won't have a choice but to instruct him to play as a midfielder and playmaker because Cristiano would demand it. He should please just leave the getting on the end of chances business to the Ronaldo, Cavani and Greenwoods and focus more on helping the likes of Pogba and Sancho in creating said chances in the first place.

We are no longer the team that needs him up top any longer for inspiration, he is needed deeper with Pogba to control games and create chances.
 

Mr Smith

Full Member
Joined
Oct 4, 2015
Messages
4,020
Location
Australia
Bit of a stupid observation (and tweet) really. Bruno’s forward runs had him clean through twice. Once marginally offside and once denied by a poor first touch. Which is better than any other attacking player today. And the reason he’s our top scorer so far this season. He also created our best chance in the first half by coming short to flick the ball through for Greenwood. Bizarre thing to get worked up about.
No it's not. The fact that those runs in behind only happened twice tells you exactly why it's a problem. Most of the time that ball wasn't on because Pogba was pressed and had no out ball. Other players can make that run when Bruno drops deep; if he's the only one doing it then its too easy to defend against.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,689
Location
india

Look at our attacking midfielder during our buildup. It must be a sickness. Wont offer himself for a fecking pass. This has been the case since last season and Ole still wont make any adjustments. Roy keane should be calling this out instead of chatting shite about Fred and Pogba.
Mentioned this in the matchday thread. Football has moved on from the 90s/00s but we haven't. I saw that line of forwards waiting for delivery and it was laughably bad. We need a proper coach.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,689
Location
india
Bit of a stupid observation (and tweet) really. Bruno’s forward runs had him clean through twice. Once marginally offside and once denied by a poor first touch. Which is better than any other attacking player today. And the reason he’s our top scorer so far this season. He also created our best chance in the first half by coming short to flick the ball through for Greenwood. Bizarre thing to get worked up about.
Not really. One or two moments (one was offside, the other didn't even lead to a chance of note) doesn't negate the fact that our shape and setup was awful. You make this 11 play Stoke hoofball and they'll have some moments but that doesn't mean it's the right way to set them up. Bruno's attacking qualities being used is not the issue, the manner in which we do it, completely abandoning any sense of midfield and possesion play, is.
 

AmanNits04

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Oct 27, 2014
Messages
489
Location
India
I cannot believe some people here are calling him a problem. In a one off match he could be off his game, but calling him the problem is just laughable. He has been our best player for the past two seasons bar none, you take him out of our team and then see how shit we become.
 

SAFMUTD

New Member
Joined
Mar 14, 2018
Messages
11,787
Poor game again, still most of the team creativity in on his shoulders, as soon as he's not on his day you can see the team drop overall.
 

Redlyn

Full Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2011
Messages
3,682

Look at our attacking midfielder during our buildup. It must be a sickness. Wont offer himself for a fecking pass. This has been the case since last season and Ole still wont make any adjustments. Roy keane should be calling this out instead of chatting shite about Fred and Pogba.
This happened several times in the match. He plays like it's a 424 where he is part of the forward line instead of being part of the midfield. When the defender heads it out he really should be in position to collect the lose ball.
 

Ivor Ballokov

Full Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2004
Messages
11,758
Location
@arrowsleeper
We finally replaced Nani in the team, when on song absolute world class, capable of moments of absolute magic but comeone the bottom level is attrocious and unlike Pogba or others he's playing in his prefered positions, he should be called out much more or even benched. Noone shoul dbe untouchable. So manc outside of the foot fancy hollywood passes instead of picking up the right option.

If you counted his bad games for us compared to the good ones it would be certainly more than 70% to 30%, often bailed out by statistics and goals from pens. You absolutely expect some goal and assist return form a players who is focal point of Manchester fecking United taking all freekicks, pens and even corners, playing high risk football all game. Quite unfair to players like Pogba whose skillset is much wider so is played out of positions, if he played instead of Bruno or at least at his preffered advanced positions he would have 30 assists per season and 15 goals + then count the possible G+As from freekicks and pentalties..

This is only to open some people's eyes because hee's quite a problematic player and despite being poor for most of the time with us, he's given Cantona status already while underpefroming most of the time.
This is amazing.
 

Winrar

Full Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2012
Messages
12,827
Location
Maryland
I don't know if it was coaching or tactical issue today but this was one of, if not the worst I've seen him so far in a united shirt.

I hope he drops back more once Ronaldo comes into the team because we were completely overrun in the midfield today.
 

Valencia Shin Crosses

Full Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2015
Messages
6,764
Location
"Martial...He's isolated Skrtel here..."
Bruno has great movement going forward but there's no need to make excuses for him, it's quite clear for at least the past 12 months that the games he plays as a second striker essentially kills any sort of build up play we can muster because there's 0 challenge for a CB to have to mark anything off the back line.

I thought Fred was pretty terrible today and Pogba was lackluster but even so I can't deny that they have an impossible job when the shape we are taking up in possession is a 4-2-4, there's nothing any midfielder would be able to do with that. As someone who's been banging the drum that Pogba can still be fine in a double pivot, there's no chance anyone will be good enough in a pivot with that shape, and it comes down to Bruno actually moving back some.
 

darioterios

Full Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2014
Messages
2,746
Bit of a stupid observation (and tweet) really. Bruno’s forward runs had him clean through twice. Once marginally offside and once denied by a poor first touch. Which is better than any other attacking player today. And the reason he’s our top scorer so far this season. He also created our best chance in the first half by coming short to flick the ball through for Greenwood. Bizarre thing to get worked up about.
There are images which shows Fred was in more advanced position than Bruno, Same with Pogba too.

Bruno was all over the place as usual, he drops deep, moves wide, makes the run beating offside traps. His pass map shows that too, that he was involved all over the pitch from middle third to final third.
Agree, been seeing this image circulating since last night. He saw the space and trusted Pogba to deliver the ball in behind, I do not see why that could not be a viable option.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.