That's the nature of cups, and how Chelsea win one every season.
Carabao Cup 2022/23
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
It's just the fact winning at least one trophy in his 1st year will be a great start for ETH and nothing to frown upon.
You guys seriously worry too much about these 'either or' scenarios. We are getting top 4 and we are hopefully winning a cup or three.
It's a shit trophy no point denying it but given our trophyless streak it'll be an exciting achievement. A trophy in the managers first season would lift everyone.
Still have to do our job in despatching Notts and Newcastle mind you.
Still have to do our job in despatching Notts and Newcastle mind you.
If we're in Carabao Cup final, into next round of Fa Cup and are looking fine league wise by Barca game, I wouldn't play strongest 11 against them as we need to be fresh coming into last 3 months of season. Especially considering it's not only Barca as good team in EL, there are also Arsenal, Juve and Sevilla left.
Of course, but if we want to attract the best talents like Enzo, we can't go consecutive years without CL and keep trying to sell a project
The Milk Marketing board was the first ever sponsor of the League cup in the 80's and it was called the Milk Cup
The NI one isn't called the Milk Cup anymore BTW
We beat Newcastle in the FA cup in the treble season.....
could this be a cheap treble Carabou, top 4 and Europa...
could this be a cheap treble Carabou, top 4 and Europa...
Top 4 may be more important from a football is serious business POV but winning a trophy is much more important from a football fan enjoys seeing their team be successful POV. We don't need to be cold, rational bastards all the time, analyzing what will give the club the best chance of "success in the future", football fandom should leave some space for enjoyment too, especially when there is a chance of success in the here and now.
Of course. Ideally we'll do both.
Hear hear
It may only be the Carling Cup but with us being 5 years without a trophy it's vital we go full strength for the remainder of the competition to finally get back to winning silverware
Last domestic cup Man United won was against Southampton, it would be fitting if the next one is won against them on February 26th.
It’s a final though. They’ll go for it surely?
Neh even less incentive, squeak out pens and nick it there.
Different situation in a final. They’ll surely go for it.
True. Never know what type of Newcastle will turn up though. They give it a go against city early on in season.
It's not just about "football is serious business", it's about giving this new emerging team the best platform for next season to grow. I think playing in the CL and finishing as high up the table as possible - with a healthy points tally and goal difference - would be the best indicator of the club's upward trajectory.
We've got two legs against Forest, if we get to the final we will of course have to play our strongest XI. I'm hoping we can put down a marker in the first leg against Forest though.
Given that the final is usually at the end of feb/early march, looks like it will be just before the Liverpool game.
I guess we're debating semantics here -- I already said Top 4 is more important from a business/future success perspective, I merely pointed out that as football fans we don't need to view everything so seriously and can stand to enjoy winning a trophy as well. I would argue that yes, league performance is a better indicator of long term potential, but that's not exactly equivalent to the POV that "top 4 is more important than winning a trophy", and I'd also argue 'league performance' is a more nuanced idea than "CL qualification". As in, we finished in the top 4 under LVG but I wouldn't argue that our league performance was indicative of a bright future for that squad. One could also make the argument that winning a "smaller" trophy has been considered a catalyst in teams reaching their full potential, such as united, Chelsea, City and Arsenal in the past (albeit they also finished top 4 tbf).
Aye, fair enough mate.
Poor man's Wout Weghorst
I don’t necessarily agree that it’s a shite trophy. It seems teams have taken it more seriously in recent times. City have won 6 out of the last 8 league cups so they must consider it worthwhile and Liverpool even had an open top bus parade when they won it last year.
It's least important of 4 trophies team can win, but a good thing about it is probably that you play final in late February/early March so winning it gives you boost of energy and motivation for rest of the season. I loved back when we won it in 2017 and then went on to win Europa as well, though league form worsened but those few months were exciting.
This cup is always the platform to succeed. Winning this will give the players more hunger. ETH is a born winner and creating a winning mentality hopefully this trophy will be the first of many under him.
If we're playing Newcastle in a potential final, it certainly won't feel small time. They're literally our most immediate league competition
Sir alex in his auto biography said the 2006 league cup was very important to give the young players like rooney ronaldo a taste of trophy. League cup or not, a trophy is a trophy.
Absolutely!
We beat Citeh on Saturday and the Quadruple is on. We’re massively in form and Arsenal are of course bottlers
Oh. Highlights on ITV starting shortly. I know most of you folk have watched already, but I haven't
Hope there's a decent amount from last night as well
Hope there's a decent amount from last night as well
Happy to be totally wrong on Southampton
Rule 6.3 on the Carabao Cup website states: “Players registered on a temporary basis will not be eligible to play unless the Club holding his full registration gives its written consent.”
I don't believe you!
Small trophy we all know but god damn its been so long without winning anything, nevermind winning any important competition, that its exciting. All points out to us vs Newcastle final but lets win this one first.
We are in no position to play down any cup given we have been trophyless for the last 5 years. This club needs to win silverware and hence the LC is hugely important.
Anyway it's still a long way to go as we play Forest and if we make it Newcastle in the final who are ahead of us in the league.
Anyway it's still a long way to go as we play Forest and if we make it Newcastle in the final who are ahead of us in the league.
After being irrelevant for most of the past 10 years I still see plenty of fans belittling anything that isn’t CL or EPL.
I say great job guys, don’t let this slip, maybe it is a start of thing to come.
Ferguson won the cup in 90, EC2 in 91 and league cup in 92 and then BOOM
I say great job guys, don’t let this slip, maybe it is a start of thing to come.
Ferguson won the cup in 90, EC2 in 91 and league cup in 92 and then BOOM
Feck 'em!
Great chance for our first trophy in much too long!
Wasn't it Pagliuca