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Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Fofana and Gvardiol as the young CB’s for the long term with Koulibaly taking the place of Thiago Silva as the older leader who plays in the less demanding central CB position.
I apologise for calling your post waffle, you are right it wasn't called for.
You think Chelsea wanted to sell KDB?. Emenalo was pleading with Mourinho to play him but didn't want him and then KDB wanted to leave .What do you want the club to do?. They wanted to loan him out but KDB wasn't having it, he was right too he was too good to be loaned out.
The club didn't want to sell most of these players on that list thats why they put a buyback on Livramento.
First option on Ake when sold to Bournemouth, Guehi first option.
Abraham buyback. Lamptey knew he had RJ infront of him.
The club deserve some criticism sure i agree, too much short term thinking. But when Tomori is like 5th choice CB because of Lampard, Conte didn't rate Ake the best thing to do is to sell.
It looks worse too because of how bad our recruitment has been in the last years, thats why i'm delighted Boehly is trying to get a DOF in.
Has there been a back line assembled so expensively?
When you write this:
And finish the paragraph with this sentence:
Man City with Cancelo (£58M), Laporte (£58M), Dias (£64M), Walker (£47M) totals £227M and it's only a back-4.
Chelsea with Cucurella (£63M), Gvardiol (£77M), Koulibaly (£34M), Fofana (£70M) and James (£0) would only be £17M higher with one more player included. In a back-4 take out Koulibaly and it's less than City's thanks to James costing feck all.
He's going to be a very good player... Boehly isn't fecking around is he
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Cucurella looks so poor a signing for £65m so odd. Feels like a dodgy deal tbh
Chelsea's issue has been generating enough goals. The defensive shape and their work rate off the ball and discipline makes them hard to score against, but when your best playmaker and creator is a right wing back and/or Mount, it kind of limits your potential for scoring goals. Sterling helps a lot, but something is still missing up front. Whether that is Broja getting games or a tweak in formation and tactics with a 3-4-1-2 type.
Best goal output was last season with 76 in the league, with 8 coming from the spot. Highest penalty tally in the league for Chelsea at 8, in the past five seasons.
Best goal output was last season with 76 in the league, with 8 coming from the spot. Highest penalty tally in the league for Chelsea at 8, in the past five seasons.
Get the $ out for Neymar already. If we're spending £70m on an uncapped defender who's barely played in a year, we can swing it.
At least would be fun to watch.
At least would be fun to watch.
So they’ll end up getting Cucurella, Fofana, Koulibaly (and likely Gvardiol + Aubameyang)
Boehly’s making a statement.
Boehly’s making a statement.
Statement of what exactly?
Plus Sterling, that kid from Aston Villa and that kid from Inter (?)
You don’t think him spending 250-300m or how much it is is in his first transfer window is a sign of intent?
Right, forgot about them
Chelsea have often spent a lot of money. None of their signings so far have really made anyone think they’ve gone up a level. Just feel like yeah they’ve spent money but doesn’t really wow you.
Problem is with the amount of outgoings they've had with no money coming in for them they had to spend loads just to stay at the same level
They’ve got a weird mish mash of players. Not looking like a great team at the moment.
Highlights the difference between having a great owner and sporting directors vs a bunch of hacks.
We need to kick ours out.
We need to kick ours out.
Has the feel of our transfer windows under LVG where it just seemed totally random who we'd buy with no plan.
Werner hattrick tonight
I’m not saying I’m wow’ed. Never paid attention to any of them other than Sterling.
Just that it seems like the new owner wants to prove he’s willing to spend a lot of money.
It’ll be bordering on 300m worth of defenders when the window closes!
Their attack is quite poor. Havertz is terrible. Mount is useless. Sterling is not clinical enough to carry them.
The midfield looks so weak today.
They need Ronaldo. They should bid.
What’s wrong with them at the moment? Bad patch or deeper issues with the squad balance?
What happened to Chalobah, he looked decent last season and has Chukwuemeka made an appearance yet?
They are devoid of ideas when other teams match their running.
Tuchel wont survive this season - I am quite convinced
They've gone quite a lot of little problems adding up to a crap style of play, but it comes largely from allowing Tuchel to dictate transfers. He's a great tactician but anyone who decides to spend £100m on Lukaku after what he showed in the PL for United should not have a say in transfers.
Issues
- The midfield, without Kante in there there's almost no bite and everything falls to Kovacic to do. I can't remember the last time I noticed Mount do something.
- Sterling and Havertz - neither are great finishers or creators, so they fall into this world complex of not only failing to create much, but also not finishing much either.
- Playing Reece James as a CB instead of RWB when he does play.
I think their transfer spending this window has been pretty poor honestly. Koulibaly is a good pickup for the price but
- They're about the last team in the league that needed Cucerella when they already have an excellent wing back in Chillwell. And I rate Cucurella highly. You can say he can fill in at CB but all in all its a collasol miss-spend (not waste) of £60m.
- Sterling - he will get goals but he's been hit and miss for City in his finishing and creation over the last season or two and it won't be any different at Chelsea. In the Southampton game in the second half that he was wasteful with the ball. I really don't think he's any better than Pulisic who at least will take his man on more, and definitely not worth shunting Pulisic out to his weaker side on the RW at a cost of £50m.
- Selling Werner - not sure many will agree as his finishing is garbage, but I think he was very underrated in both his all round play and his ability to run in behind and create space. Certainly a useful option to have.
- Chasing after any defender that would cost £80m+. Obviously with new management and sacking the sporting people they've had to go for bigger names, but ideally they would've looked at some better priced options like Bremer for example and then allocated some of that money to a CM. Tbh I think £80m on a midfielder is a bigger priority for them than for Fofana. I don't know why they didn't just pay one of Rudiger or Christensen. Just some really poor squad building choices from Chelsea.
Issues
- The midfield, without Kante in there there's almost no bite and everything falls to Kovacic to do. I can't remember the last time I noticed Mount do something.
- Sterling and Havertz - neither are great finishers or creators, so they fall into this world complex of not only failing to create much, but also not finishing much either.
- Playing Reece James as a CB instead of RWB when he does play.
I think their transfer spending this window has been pretty poor honestly. Koulibaly is a good pickup for the price but
- They're about the last team in the league that needed Cucerella when they already have an excellent wing back in Chillwell. And I rate Cucurella highly. You can say he can fill in at CB but all in all its a collasol miss-spend (not waste) of £60m.
- Sterling - he will get goals but he's been hit and miss for City in his finishing and creation over the last season or two and it won't be any different at Chelsea. In the Southampton game in the second half that he was wasteful with the ball. I really don't think he's any better than Pulisic who at least will take his man on more, and definitely not worth shunting Pulisic out to his weaker side on the RW at a cost of £50m.
- Selling Werner - not sure many will agree as his finishing is garbage, but I think he was very underrated in both his all round play and his ability to run in behind and create space. Certainly a useful option to have.
- Chasing after any defender that would cost £80m+. Obviously with new management and sacking the sporting people they've had to go for bigger names, but ideally they would've looked at some better priced options like Bremer for example and then allocated some of that money to a CM. Tbh I think £80m on a midfielder is a bigger priority for them than for Fofana. I don't know why they didn't just pay one of Rudiger or Christensen. Just some really poor squad building choices from Chelsea.
Who are their strikers actually supposed to be? Havertz and Broja? Massive problem that.
Busy 2 days coming i would hope.
Come on Chelsea. Maguire + Ronaldo for only 50 million.
Chelsea are struggling away from home, it seems. Barely scraped a win against Everton, got wrecked by Leeds, and now Southampton. The grit they showed against Leicester last week was non-existent today.
We will be playing Europa League together next year.
We will be playing Europa League together next year.
My striker Broja done more in his cameo than Havertz has done in 5 games.
Hope they kept the receipt from Cucurella's £137 million.
I don’t think they’re beyond a panic bid for Ronaldo, that would be fantastic.
Pretty much. They seem to have mashed together a low block counter attacking defence with a high pressing forward line(While also having no good strikers).
Leaves them playing very boring and ineffective football.
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