Dont believe this journalist, he is one of the worse.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Yeah damn those pesky Westerners forcing people onto boats. The most xenophobic in the land.
Do you know the point of a business? Google will help if your struggling.
They haven’t fecked them up. There has been no improvement at Lausanne, they have pretty much stagnated and at Nice they are constantly trying new things to succeed. It’s taking longer than expected but apparently with the new group DOF things will improve. Both clubs are financially sound and managed responsibly. They seem to be learning from their mistakes.
What makes people think the Qataris will come in and get it right immediately. It’s a risk and they have no experience at all. Of course they could do so and money hides a lot of evils, but the source and amount of money available still isn’t clear. Some of the tweets regarding their “plans” for running the club suggest a potential circus too; club legends, transfer votes from fans etc.
For the people too who think the Qataris are going to come in, drop billions and expect nothing in return you are mad and I have a bridge to sell you. It will be an investment to them and they will expect a return. It’s going to depend what type of return they want as to how palatable they will be, already rumours regarding the land around the stadium etc. Imagine the scenario they want to redevelop the land around old Trafford and the council are difficult with planning approval, will the club then become a bargaining chip to be used as a means to coerce an approval? No friends in business. Strangely enough I think from the two Ineos will be the ones expecting less or no return from the club as I see this as a vanity project for Sir Jim at least, one last big wave of his wrinkly old chap
That's what he appears to be doing, 4 Glazer's want out and 2 don't
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Ineos makes a lot of investments in a lot of areas. Buying Man. United to make money off of it is impossible unless you invest heavily into the club...and even then the potential profits are a drop in the bucket compared to what Ratcliffe's company makes in a year...but I guess you don't WANT to understand it.
You literally wrote a whole post that doesn't adress my question.
If it's a private bid, what is the problem? Since everyone keeps saying that a state bid would just pay the money.
And making up stuff about the way the club would be run when Ratcliffe hasn't even commited on clearing the debt (either through Ineos or altogether) is just peak hypocrisy. The fan vote stuff I'm pretty sure was a rumour and not confirmed at all.
As for the club legends bit, I'm much more expecting Ratcliffe to get some proper British lads than Qatar who will try to do a Bayern and hire competent people that used to be associated with the club. How do I assume that? Well, I'm looking at what he's done in his other ventures.
As it will help with your grammar.
We just can’t seem to flush them out. Nightmare.
Bet there are a few grievances come out.I dont think I have F5'd on a thread hoping for good news as much as this one since the Wesley Sneijder thread few years back..
You a returnee then? Joined 2013. hmmm
No. Both as a transfer 'ITK' and as an analyst of the politics and ethics of club ownership, he's shown himself a (sanctimonious and hypocritical in the latter regard) clown...
If SirJim does end up winning, then I can see him falling out spectacularly with Joel & Avram. This deal sounds doomed to fail with those two still clinging onto power.
Ha ha I know. Me too.
Thanks the the reminder also. I remember getting into a drunken heated argument back then at a friend's house that we should sign Roy Scheider. Obviously getting confused with Wesley Sneijder. Never got over that.
I just stopped constantly checking for transfer after the Sneijder sagaYou a returnee then? Joined 2013. hmmm
.. spent way too much time than I'd care to admit online back thenThe opposite will be true if Delaney is saying this
Oh for goodness sake, give up lad! It’s not happening!
“This one goes up to 11.”
More like a sight for sore eyes.
It’s Jassim who is insisting his bid is 100%. If he wants the club so badly he should just match the valuation. Or he could drop his percentage and give a higher valuation to the shares he does buy.
There’s no double standards about it.
And he could plough his money into crypto schemes or fly a rocket to the moon, but he probably won’t!!
If it's true that two of them want to stay, then the Qatari bid is doomed. If Ratbag is happy to buy his way in and let the Glazers stay on in some capacity, then what is the effect of that on the playing side? Do we get to modernize with the best football people in all key positions, or do we carry on as we are? I have no idea what the answer is.
Maybe not invade their countries and burn it to the ground, just maybe.
They’ve restated their previous bid in rubles.
I can vouch for that the statement “Sheik Jassim could make a higher bid AGAIN” is true.
December 2023: Jassim is considering a 10th and final bid. Sir Jim still leading the race by the narrowest of margins. Glazer’s feel an additional $100,000 should seal the deal but are waiting to see how United come out of the hectic Xmas schedule before committing to the sale.
They probably will imo. They can’t take the embarrassment.
I can honestly see Qatar bending over and giving the Glazers what they want. I think they'd likely see missing out on United to SJR as quite shameful on their country, but thats just my opinion. SJ will get frustrated, offer the Glazers what they want, then the Glazers will just run off into the sunset with their big huge fat bags of cash, like the money greedy leeches they are.
Agreed. These guys don’t finish second. It’ll be like bringing shame on the family. At the same time they don’t want to be seen bending over and letting the Glazers ride them for every $ they can
Yes INEOS would be different.
What the Glazers have done isn't the norm and is a guide on how not to run business, without their father propping them up they'd be fecked.
INEOS wether you like them or not have done well as a business.
Debt plays no part, smart savvy businesses make debt work for them, the Glazers didn't care as it wasn't their debt as soon as they signed the paperwork.
I think it'll be a case of they'll give the Glazers what they want, and then mask it with something like "The commercial oppertunities and the sponsorship opportunities far outweigh the price we paid" etc etc. They'll cover up the fact they bent over for the Glazers in some way or other. Still, as long as the Glazers are gone, thats all that matters. I wouldn't mind SJR buying us, but his plan of keeping the Glazers around is really putting me off
I guess the Glazers have got themselves perfect leverage and will get everything they want and then some.
It is obviously good to see them feck off, but the way they have leached into us for nearly two decades is horrific.
Probably for reasons that go above your head. He's a multi billionaire that runs a company with 60bn revenues so I'm sure he knows what he's doing mate.
Qatar know what they have to do. If they don't go higher they don't win. Simple as that.
It's disgusting and it's the fact they have no shame about it.
They couldn't care less about the club, and you can guarantee that they wouldn't have given two fecks about the loss yesterday. It was just a day trip for them, stir a bit more anger with the fans and more speculation with the press. It's like they thrive on drama, they love being centre of attention, especially Joel and Avi, especially with the takeover speculation, you can guarantee they're absolutely loving all the attention!
I agree, if Qatar want United, they'll get United. They just don't want to be seen as bending over backwards and giving the Glazers what they want, which is why i think they're just increasing the bid slowly but surely. There will come a point where the leeches say 'that'll do... that'll do'.
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