That's not even an answer. Do you even want the surrounding area around Old Trafford to be developped in the same way that those guys in Eastlands have seen the fruits of such project on their own end?
I will answer it. On paper the offer which benefits the local community more is the better offer for the local community. But that particular offer came with a cost to the club’s heritage and reputation, therefore I wouldn’t have supported it. In any case the offer wasn’t high enough to be considered so it’s a moot point now.
I would say we've got the Glazers for another year or two at least.
Why don't you hop onto a plane and show them how its done then? Pull yourself away from your dodgy illegal stream and actually attempt to make a difference.
you just quoted the problem ....youve spent thousands - how on earth do you want to see change when you keep lining the glazers pockets
You do realise the locals that lived around that redeveloped area in the eastlands were priced out of their own homes don't you and aren't exactly happy about it?
We all appreciate your commitment to making a difference by continuing your boycott. Can't imagine how difficult that's been for you. True hero.
The initial re-devolpment of Eastlands was done for the 2002 Commenwealth games. City's Stadium was the built to host it along with the rest of SportCity. That's was all done via goverment grants and mancunian's council tax payments.
But you literally said: ' I have a much bigger issue with the environmental destruction and BREXIT politics of Sir Jim than human rights in the Gulf.' so clearly the environmental success is important to you. So why bring it up as a negative for Ratcliffe when it's a real black mark for Qatar too?
You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't
As @Bert_ pointed out, it is still a shit hole around the stadium I don't know how they have gotten away with the world thinking they turned Eastlands into Covent Garden.
I think some, unlike yourself seemingly, have grown up supporting United as their local team and want to back the players, manager and club as a whole.
This is counter productive though.
Wasting your trying local to some of these e fans they wouldn’t know where Manchester was if you threw out of a plane and they landed slap bang in the middle of the arndale
I cannot comprehend how anyone can look at the dire state of the club now and think that kind of offer is a risk to the club's heritage and reputation - the biggest risk to the heritage of this club is no change at all
Your mistake is thinking the fans have any real power to change the owners - they really dont
IMHO the only power we have is to get games called off.
Are you able to join in such actions? I mean a life time ban from the ground and a court appearance or 2 aren't on people's to do lists. You go first and maybe others will follow?
This is exactly it.
What kind of protests do you think people are advocating for?
Of course we do. We've just lacked critical mass, so far.
Exactly. The fans have lots of power. Question is whether they choose to use it.
I don't feel comfortable criticising people who go to games, though it would be great if more joined on when protests are organised. I'd certainly recommend not spending money on the concourse while there, or on expensive sky sports packages, or buying official merchandise. Spending extra is absolutely supporting the glazers, not United.
The same as got games postponed last time around, as that's the only way it happens.
This is just nonsense and gets the thumbs up? It an insult to everyone that protests and stands up to the establishment even though they love what the establishment is control over. How many protests have thier been againt the Government? Do people say I'm British and I find since my heritage is interwoven with the Government I cannot protest against them. What about the actual protests at Old Trafford. That is hurting the players and the club in some ways but its for the greater good. What about Nurses and doctors proesting and hurting patients. It goes on and on. Not turning up to support the team is not an impossibility. Its a choice. You might tell yourself its in your blood and you just cannot do it. But thats bullshit. You can support the club and protest and not buy stuff. The protesting, not turning up for games, not buying merchandise is supporting the club
Mate, I'm well aware of the consequences.
Even that is incredibly difficult to achieve - it happened once but there were a unique set of circumstances (COVID, no fans in the ground, ESL etc)
You a dreaming if you think this is achievable - the only thing that would happen is mass infighting among our fans which is the worst thing that could happen
That's the point about critical mass. Once sufficient numbers have decided that enough is enough and to either join in or step back, then there would be little need to stop other fans going in. Which is what I assume you mean by infighting.
prob. Just saying that another option for them that they would be smart to look in to would be a midtable epl team. The price difference on buying would be ridiculous, and they could easily go the newcastle route of slowly building it up without the quick pressure and really become a force while still racking in the dough on their investment.
I'm not a legal expert but I think what you mentioned would be breaking the law.
so much for free speech!
