I just started using twitter relatively recently, a year or two max, and I don't really know the ins and outs, don't tweet, don't really know too much about how it works, I just follow a handful of people. However, in a general sense it has served me quite well. I am often shocked at news others find surprising, when it's something that's been floating around twitter for a while. All the, "if Twitter says so" comments are just stupid, it's 2023, twitter is a concentration of information from every type of source, but as with traditional venues of information, it requires the user to have enough common sense to be able to separate reliable info from obvious crap.people just tweet every scenario then delete the ones that are wrong. How are you falling for this in 2023!
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… Keep as is, then?
The glazers simply cannot afford Utd any longer, its the end game, they are completely out of road and will cut and run with their billions.
Imagine a place where everyone posts their opinion like its a fact and they have inside info, then delete their tweets weeks later when it doesn't happen.
I know where these rumours come from and you can disregard them as you would a shit stained tissue.
I said worthwhile, not ‘ I know what’s going on but I’m not telling you’.
There has been no suggestion that Ratcliffe is looking at a leveraged buyout. The debt would be on INEOS, not the club. Big difference. If Malcolm Glazer had bought United like that, their ownership would have been looked a lot more kindly.
Malcom Glazer and Woodward were the brains of the operation, the people who knew the gameplan and how to execute it. Without either of them the remaining Glazers have lost the plot. But let's say you are right, it still doesnt change the fact that during COVID and in the post pandemic era the Glazers knew what was coming and have been looking for that minority investor for a long time, the even reportedly offered the Saudis a stake three years ago.
Jesus relax man, it was such an innocuous tweet.
I wouldn’t be surprised if all the Qatar talk amounted to nothing but the idea Joel and Avram can buy out their siblings and cling on is total nonsense.
This concept is new too me, but it makes total sense, I guess I am just too honest to even think of that. However, my normal method for deducing information has served me well. Although I did step outside my normal methods when I mentioned that tweet, although I would happily take the burn on that one.
I can be one negative bastard but yeah the idea of the 2 Glazers buying out the other 4 is a far fetched
Would basically mean they’d have to turn down £4billion plus bids and sell to their brothers for a fair bit less money
I can bet my life that money is more important than family for the Glazers
The Glazers did loosen the purse strings but that only happened after they neglected the academy/youth, with the football structure that also became dated with Derek Langley (Head of recruitment) reportedly being a pen and paper guy rather than having data bases to tap into which had become the norm at other big clubs. And it was reported that when Moyes arrived at the club he asked where the scouting/recruitment information was stored, the response he got was that everything was stored in Jim Lawlor's head who was the Chief Scout.
Man City bought David Silva, Aguero and Yaya Toure unchallenged because there was 'no value in the market'. Silva and Aguero were both reported to be players Fergie wanted. He never got those players but still carried on competing and winning whilst not being backed by the board imo.
And with David Gill making a swift exit and leaving behind a broken football club from the inside that had been left behind as far as modernisation is concerned, they replaced him with Ed Woodward. And of course you had to spend money and revive the club at all levels on the football side of the club. But when you have a dated football structure and you then bring in managers who are also dated in their beliefs, then the recruitment will reflect those managers whilst our rivals were recruiting for managers who adopted a more dominant, high intensity play style with pressing and counter pressing capabilities.
So yes, the Glazers did allow us to spend our own money. But they only allowed that to happen after they'd overseen the malaise throughout the club via both David Gill and Ed Woodward. And spending money was the only way to get out of the mess the Glazers had created. But their incompetence meant even the money was wasted due to the managers that were hired.
Man City bought David Silva, Aguero and Yaya Toure unchallenged because there was 'no value in the market'. Silva and Aguero were both reported to be players Fergie wanted. He never got those players but still carried on competing and winning whilst not being backed by the board imo.
And with David Gill making a swift exit and leaving behind a broken football club from the inside that had been left behind as far as modernisation is concerned, they replaced him with Ed Woodward. And of course you had to spend money and revive the club at all levels on the football side of the club. But when you have a dated football structure and you then bring in managers who are also dated in their beliefs, then the recruitment will reflect those managers whilst our rivals were recruiting for managers who adopted a more dominant, high intensity play style with pressing and counter pressing capabilities.
So yes, the Glazers did allow us to spend our own money. But they only allowed that to happen after they'd overseen the malaise throughout the club via both David Gill and Ed Woodward. And spending money was the only way to get out of the mess the Glazers had created. But their incompetence meant even the money was wasted due to the managers that were hired.
It’s crazy isn’t it. Even that clown IndyKalia still has a large following despite being exposed years ago as an absolute fraud who isn’t well connected and ITK but instead just some no mark who works in KFC getting a kick out of pretending to be some transfer guru.
I feel like people follow Indy now purely because it's a joke account and people enjoy going along with it. It's a bit of an inside joke but I doubt very few take him seriously anymore.It’s crazy isn’t it. Even that clown IndyKalia still has a large following despite being exposed years ago as an absolute fraud who isn’t well connected and ITK but instead just some no mark who works in KFC getting a kick out of pretending to be some transfer guru.
There's plenty of fresh versions that pop up though, there's that Ross matey that's been rustling people all summer long.
Then you get those muppetier guys from Reddit
people just can't help themselves. Being ITK sure is a strange phenomenaAnd Apollo would come in as what? Minority shareholders or lenders? As lenders its close to impossible because the other siblings will want a big payday, at two or three billion they will be looking at at least a £150m interest bill per season. As minority investors who the hell invests two billion on the Glazers after seeing the clusterfeck they have presided over.
It doesn't make sense for any PE to enter into partnership with skint owners like the Glazers especially if the money invested is going out to the other siblings. How then does the team stay competitive without major investments in infrastructure and playing staff? Once Newcastle settle in the top four, Spurs get taken over and Liverpool sort themselves out then United, under the parasites, will slide away into midtable mediocrity.
For example, next summer we cant sign the top striker and midfielder we need with them in charge. This could mean us standing still and others overtaking us again but only difference this time is we no longer have the money claw back up. If I am at Apollo I'd thinking there are probably less stressful ways to spend my money.
Are you trolling or what? Post the bloody source or stop. Or at least post it in the sticky .
I believe Mourinho has already expressed his desire to return on hearing the news of the incoming Qatari ownership
You win some, you lose some?
It’s been discussed in this thread. It’s bullshit. Check his recent posts/reply to myself
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One of Hasan Al-Thawadi or Nasser Al-Khater are the candidate to be the director of the club in the case of Qatar takeover.
Lose lose for some
Honestly, cannot be bothered but it's amazing how people just so casually cause panic like that.
Any news on the United supporter who’s held a Chelsea season ticket for a decade?
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Here we go, hearts and minds
It’s Miguel Delenay’s tweet/ article. Bullshitter.
Keegan's stories have been bizarre throughout this process. I have a funny feeling that his source is going to turn out to be some low-level 'regular Joe' Qatari citizen with a very loose connection to one of the royals, who has just been making it all up for a bit of a laugh.
Seriously... We had pages of calling him out.. I guess I'll just stick to the sticky.
What a cringeworthy propaganda piece. Though does confirm Keegan is basically passing info on behalf of Qatar
It's propaganda to win favour amongst supporters.
'he's their mouthpiece.
Propaganda is just a Manc having a really good look at something.
IF... The Qataris were to own us, I'd think Hassan Al-Thawadi wouldn't be a favoured option, as he seemed to be part of the front of Qatar World Cup and was controverisal at times.
Yep this is all very reasonable and I hope that it works out this way. I assumed they'd be minority shareholders and have some hypothesis on football growth that other people are not seeing given their investments with Barca etc.
I'm not claiming to be ITK or repeat what I've heard or anything like that. But all I will say is that's very good advice for the next few days.
Looking forward to the 10:30 update
That would be a perfect epitome of their ownership. Embracing more managed decline instead of cashing out.
Keegan went early, I don’t think there is one
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