Spare the rare tweet, there's nothing of interest in this thread beyond the usual arguments.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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the point is women and men have different rights in Qatar, so just because something is normal in a country doesn't mean it's okay
link to other thread if anyone wants to respond
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wou...backed-ownership.474122/page-30#post-30223699
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Qatar aren't portraying themselves or their bid as progressive. Ratcliffe is
Horrible feeling that third option is minority investment and not another full sale like Ballmer
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Because gay people have to be incredibly closeted. Obviously.
The glazers are using the 3rd option to force Sheikh Jassim to really make it their while. Cunning cnuts.
Pay £6m if that's what it takes
I agree. But then pretty much every morning this thread has grown by 4-5 pages and I think maybe there's something worth seeing. Unfortunately it's just the same people saying the same thing.
Think the Glazers would disagree with this...
Not sure that’ll do it.
Sorry swap that m for a b
Not sure his dad being an investor, will just dish out a few hundred million just to please his son. But if they are smart, they will make use of the Manchester United brand for new multiple revenue streams.
No. Your point was that it's illegal for Qatari women to marry men. You got that wrong. No need to keep deflecting.
This is quite a wild thread, politics, religion, morality, and a little bit of football, think we should be just thankful that the glazer era is coming to an end tbh, anyway, I think this gets done for pretty much close to what the glazers are demanding.
You have the 3rd most posts in this entire thread, don't you feel like a bit of an idiot complaining about the contents when you've been knee sliding with glee and scoffing on the shit the entire time? Staggering lack of self awareness
I believe Glazers will sell. I'm quite convinced of it. What happens after this is what intrigues me.
Who will keep their jobs in the hierarchy? Who replaces them? I do not want the new owners to bring in their "own" people. For now, I'd leave Arnold to do his job, and instruct him to go and get the best, in whatever position he sees fit...if needed.
The current upward trajectory should remain. The takeover will cause plenty of upheaval outside the club, that we need some calm and consistency within it.
Who will keep their jobs in the hierarchy? Who replaces them? I do not want the new owners to bring in their "own" people. For now, I'd leave Arnold to do his job, and instruct him to go and get the best, in whatever position he sees fit...if needed.
The current upward trajectory should remain. The takeover will cause plenty of upheaval outside the club, that we need some calm and consistency within it.
Arnold will be the first out of the door, if the club gets sold. No one is going to spend 5bn+ and not appoint their own CEO.
Right. You got me.You have the 3rd most posts in this entire thread, don't you feel like a bit of an idiot complaining about the contents when you've been knee sliding with glee and scoffing on the shit the entire time? Staggering lack of self awareness
Do a breakdown then
Look how far that got us. There is very little you can do when the cat is out the bag.
That’s just silly and misinformed
Of course it would be different. They wouldn’t be taking money out of the club every year for a start!
No thanks. Can’t stand any of them pre scripted Paddock fools.
I only just about like Howson again thanks to Rio.
Hey @Wumminator
Are you still ducking the question as to whether you'd prefer the Glazers to stay (with minority investment from a vulture hedge fund) rather than the Qataris owning us?
In the context of the comment I replied to it shows just what value women have in that society.
“no you got it all wrong mate, I love women. Yeah, that’s why I’ve got 7”
It’s a really delicate and interesting position the women’s team would be put in, and I’m sure some will take a moral objection and leave but thats okay cos we only care about the men’s team, right?
Be pretty foolish imo.
I'm not saying he's the answer, however, things are finally moving in the right direction, and would be silly to change.
Not saying the following is on the same level (due to our success), however, the Glazers kept David Gill on after the takeover.
No not at all, I’d rather the Glazers own us.
I wish some of the bickering would stop in here. Straying way off topic and is more personal than about the club.
Hope you don’t take this the wrong way but you sound like king cnut.
I beg your pardon?
King Cnut, sat on the seashore and tried to command the sea not to touch his feet, obviously the sea ignored him.
Ahh never heard of him. Sounds a very powerful and knowledgeable individual. I understand the comparison now.
Hardly a benchmark that. Not as if they had any idea about football to bring in a CEO anyway, even if we had a good on already in David Gill.
Erm…yeah fair enough
The point being you can’t stop the inevitable no matter how powerful and knowledgeable one might be.
Most metrics seem to put them very much in the middle of the pack.
Bredda. Let the narrative go. Nobody Is sitting round thinking about Qatar and daydreaming thinking we are going to buy all the ‘big stars’.
It’s a lazy narrative ran by the same people who believe in ‘eFans’.
Mbappe ain’t coming just because we get Qatar and if for instance he wanted to come. It’s not the end of the world. We’ve had big stars before.
My point still stands. It would be foolish to get rid of anyone straight away.
However, we aren't privy to inside conversations. We don't know how and what is said between people. Arnold could be a complete bell e*d and not fit in with the vision of the new owners.
But for me, the current set up is working. It could be the fact that EtH is masking the issues behind the scenes, however, I like how Arnold is running the club up to this point. I like what I hear from him and I like what I hear about him (from social media, etc).
Hopefully, the new owners have a 90 days review of things and see what's what. I'd at least give them this summer transfer window.
Ps, my ultimate set up has always been to appoint Edwin as CEO and Paul Mitchell ,or Michael Edwards, as DoF. However, I believe the current set up should be given a chance.
There is very little precedence for a situation like this to make any kind of call. There have been very few clubs of our size taken over in the last 20 years or so. City and PSG aren't good comparisons as their starting point was far away from ours. The only comparable club really is Chelsea after Roman was made to sell, but then the people that were placed in that job (At least Grovanovska or whatever her name was) were personally affiliated with him. Arnold doesn't seem to be a personal Glazer man like Woody was.
Either way, we have a very small sample size to go on so its quit pointless making assumptions about what will and won't happen, especially with such confidence.
And if he happens to get replaced and we end up getting someone better, great. By and large him and Murtough's "good work" has largely been based around getting the most exciting managerial prospect in the world in at the club. Had we gotten Poch in and were floundering in sixth place, then nothing they were doing would have been receiving any praise.
It's a bit like how FSG and the Liverpool hierarchy suddenly all became great at managing a club because they got Klopp in and he got things going in the right direction.
It’s true everyone hating on John like he’s doing anything different to Edwards. The difference is Edwards gets credited for VVD. John gets zero credit for Casemiro. I hope he stays in charge. The last thing we need is ETH reporting to brand new people after just coming in and starting well. Keep the stability is what I say.
Just hire a new negotiating team and a Joel Glazer type to report to.
How did the womens team for Man City and Newcastle react to their owners? Surely there's your answer.
This should be the job of the CEO, Richard Arnold. There have been complaints in the past that United have too many reporting lines, and there for slow, cumbersome decisions are made.
We need to streamline the reporting lines so we can be more agile and nimble in negotiations.
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