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The ecstasy of winning a trophy maybe lasts a day or two. Topping the Deloitte money list will last at least until the next one come out!
To be fair, it's probably the most important league given what football is about these days.
 

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Will Ratcliffe even make a second bid? Its one thing swinging your dick, its another when Qatar put about 5 billion on the table.
 

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Will Ratcliffe even make a second bid? Its one thing swinging your dick, its another when Qatar put about 5 billion on the table.
Wasn't Ratcliffe's first bid bigger than Qatar's given that it was only for a percentage?
 

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Something else he is not doing himself personally…… master of delegation this guy! :wenger:
Jassim buying the club, hiring a really strong CEO and mostly staying out of the picture in public would be a best case scenario imo. Far better than the current Chelsea shit show
 

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Qatar are very likely to win. Wipe the debt off, invest in the infrastructure and make sure that we employ the best-in-class staff. United will generate hell lot of money which the club wil be able to use for themselves. The value of the club will grow sigifnicantly, so I won't be surprised to see us topping the Deloitte list in 2-3 years.
Top of the deloitte list.

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You're arguing semantics. 'Pro Qatari bid' is the same level of cringe when there is so little information about the specifics of either bid or how the club will be run with an either potential owner. Sure, you can favor the bid, but to shill and goad in this thread just because others a) have ethical or sporting reasons against state ownership or b) question the reasons for wanting Qatari ownership is goofball behavior. Your last sentence is an excellent example of what I mean. Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

I honestly don't want to engage with you about this anymore, given your responses in this thread. We can agree to disagree.
We are discussing on the little we know and on the Qatari/ineos football track record. If new info comes out then everyone is free to change opinion. For example I was pro SJR up until Jassim bid came in. If a better option comes in or SJR comes with something better then jassim then I switch. I am pro man utd and I want its best. I can't care less about the owners and quite frankly I never liked our owners in the first place

Some want to add the moral issue to it which is fair enough but it does become tired after reading the same post again and again. I only care about the football side of it.

I don't mind to applaud a person who comes with a valid argument as kinsella did not long ago. As said my loyalty lie with the club, nothing else
 

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We are discussing on the little we know and on the Qatari/ineos football track record. If new info comes out then everyone is free to change opinion. For example I was pro SJR up until Jassim bid came in. If a better option comes in or SJR comes with something better then jassim then I switch. I am pro man utd and I want its best. I can't care less about the owners and quite frankly I never liked our owners in the first place

Some want to add the moral issue to it which is fair enough but it does become tired after reading the same post again and again. I only care about the football side of it.

I don't mind to applaud a person who comes with a valid argument as kinsella did not long ago. As said my loyalty lie with the club, nothing else
Are you wobbling ;)
 

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Ineos don’t own a football club there, but hey, don’t let that stop you :lol:

One thing I will ask you though @devilish, considering you bang pn about ”bike guy” every single day.
Who do you feel would be more suited to the role of INEOS sports sporting director? A role that incorporates cycling, F1, Sailing, Rugby, Football & Running? Would a football guy somehow be better suited :confused:
I don't think anyone is knowledgeable in all those sports. How can you be an expert in both F1 and football? Thus you should have different experts per branch. Hence why bike guy shouldn't be taking football decisions especially considering his chequered reputation. Quite frankly the likes of him and moody shouldn't be in involved in sports as a whole yet somehow they are rated at ineos. I wonder why
 

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Simple question

Does anyone here think, against the consensus, that INEOS could yet outbid Sheikh Jassim's team?
 

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Qatar are very likely to win. Wipe the debt off, invest in the infrastructure and make sure that we employ the best-in-class staff. United will generate hell lot of money which the club wil be able to use for themselves. The value of the club will grow significantly, so I won't be surprised to see us topping the Deloitte list in 2-3 years.
This is basically back to the days when Glazers were not here.

We were debts free, best infrastructures, best in class SAF and top the Deloitte list. Then the rats came.

I think only Qatar bid is able to bring us back to where we should be without the leeches sucking us dry and destroy the club
 
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I don't think anyone is knowledgeable in all those sports. How can you be an expert in both F1 and football? Thus you should have different experts per branch. Hence why bike guy shouldn't be taking football decisions especially considering his chequered reputation
Exactly.

Which is probably why they employed Florent as Nice Sporting Director and have experts running each branch.

Now can you give the nonsense a rest.
 

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Simple question

Does anyone here think, against the consensus, that INEOS could yet outbid Sheikh Jassim's team?
I think that depends on the backing Jassim has. If it’s genuinely a private bid, funded by family money then there is every chance.
If he is simply a front for a state buyout then it’s hard to see them allowing themselves to be outbid.
 
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Exactly.

Which is probably why they employed Florent as Nice Sporting Director and have experts running each branch.

Now can you give the nonsense a rest.
Bike man was one of the people SJR brought to United and he was quite involved at Nice. SJR seem to like to surround with the wrong type of people or/and cnuts. He also allowed his brother to manage lausanne and he employed a racist as external investor. It really makes you question what sort of man SJR is and how serious he is in football
 

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The timing for Qatar is perfect especially with the TeamViewer situation.

We could get a £150m a year contract with Qatar Airways or something, and that'll ease the FFP trouble we're in the near future. If we get our shit together in the next 2 seasons, the Adidas deal is up for renewal as well and that could also legitimately break £100m a season.
 

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Glazers must have an incredibly tight NDA in place. Would have expected at least a formal interview with the BBC or Times by this stage from both the Qatar and Goldman Sachs bids.
 

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Wasn't Ratcliffe's first bid bigger than Qatar's given that it was only for a percentage?
All that 100% stuff was a bit misleading. Both parties are only bidding for the Glazers 69% controlling interest of the club. Once they own the majority of the club they can then decide if they want to go about purchasing the other 31% of shares.
 

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The timing for Qatar is perfect especially with the TeamViewer situation.

We could get a £150m a year contract with Qatar Airways or something, and that'll ease the FFP trouble we're in the near future. If we get our shit together in the next 2 seasons, the Adidas deal is up for renewal as well and that could also legitimately break £100m a season.
We could cicumvent ffp by paying players a lot more off the books through projects in Qatar, which would make us much more competetive in the transfer market. What's not to like?
 

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Do we even know if Shiekh Jassim actually exists? though does it really matter as it's certainly not him buying the club of he does exist
 

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The timing for Qatar is perfect especially with the TeamViewer situation.

We could get a £150m a year contract with Qatar Airways or something, and that'll ease the FFP trouble we're in the near future. If we get our shit together in the next 2 seasons, the Adidas deal is up for renewal as well and that could also legitimately break £100m a season.
We can get our shit together but it may not results in a consistent flow of silverware. The top-end of league will become even more competitive in the next few years.
We can only hope that we are competing for titles and silverware consistently. So I doubt if we can get like £100mill from Adidas.
 

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We could cicumvent ffp by paying players a lot more off the books through projects in Qatar, which would make us much more competetive in the transfer market. What's not to like?
There's also that option too. Good stuff all around
 

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All that 100% stuff was a bit misleading. Both parties are only bidding for the Glazers 69% controlling interest of the club. Once they own the majority of the club they can then decide if they want to go about purchasing the other 31% of shares.
Fair enough, thanks.
 

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The timing for Qatar is perfect especially with the TeamViewer situation.

We could get a £150m a year contract with Qatar Airways or something, and that'll ease the FFP trouble we're in the near future. If we get our shit together in the next 2 seasons, the Adidas deal is up for renewal as well and that could also legitimately break £100m a season.
:lol: we can cook the books basically
 

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Glazers must have an incredibly tight NDA in place. Would have expected at least a formal interview with the BBC or Times by this stage from both the Qatar and Goldman Sachs bids.
The Glazers can refuse a bid even if it's the most advantageous. Thus it's wise by all parties involved not to irk them
 

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This thread has finally put to bed that it’s just bluemoon with its eccentric posters.
 

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All that 100% stuff was a bit misleading. Both parties are only bidding for the Glazers 69% controlling interest of the club. Once they own the majority of the club they can then decide if they want to go about purchasing the other 31% of shares.
This
 

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Do we even know if Shiekh Jassim actually exists? though does it really matter as it's certainly not him buying the club of he does exist
He is a figment of everyone's imagine. Fake scammer. In fact the Raine Group guys are fake too.
 
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