UpWithRivers
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How much money have you got!If ME interest is confirmed then we aren’t being sold to anyone else
How much money have you got!If ME interest is confirmed then we aren’t being sold to anyone else
Indeed. It's been in use for more than a century by the British, and later by the Yanks. Personally, I hate it. It harps back to the days of British Empire. That and and the 'Near East'.It is but in business terms it's normal to use region-specific acronyms as well, ie. EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Africa) and APAC (Asia-Pacific).
Red Army.I'm plenty curious to know who the bidders from Asia are? China? Japan? India?
Yes, it could happen at anytime - what we know is the aim from the start was Q1 and the article makes clear is it’s still the aim and there’s been lots of interest. Posting negative hypotheticals based on nothing outside of what’s in your head about how it could still take a while seems a bit weird to me.What will it take for you people to understand that targets and deadlines are not divine law in sales such as this one? There are almost always hiccups, hurdles, delays. More discussions, more due diligence, more bids... It's common and nothing is going to happen if they miss the given target by a few weeks or a month. If the Glazers believe they can get a better offer they are not going to cut the process short out of some principle, particularly when the club is a hot property with many bidders. Not everything is "negative", it's just what's common and reasonable. Could it happen Q1? Sure. Could it draw well into Q2? Also likely.
My point was targets are approximate and deadlines are soft. Deviation of a few weeks to a month or two is not uncommon when transferring massive properties with lots of paperwork involved. This isn't your local bakery.They are not divine in law, correct. However; in most businesses when people are entertaining bids for such things, there is a deadline for a reason. If Glazers believe they can get a better deal, they could end up waiting years too on that argument, which is why a deadline has to be set, otherwise buyers will not take it seriously.
I get the feeling that they'd love to have a controlling stake with a minority investor financing everything. The problem they have is no one is daft enough to do itWorth noting this line from The Telegraph article:
It is unclear yet whether the Glazers want to completely end their hugely controversial 18-year ownership. United are expected to inform interested parties in the coming days that formal bids will be taken next month for total buyouts as well as minority stakes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ed-takeover-bids-imminent-middle-east-asia-us
Just trying to strengthen their bargaining position hopefully - "we aren't totally sure we want to sell so if you want to buy the whole club you better make a fecking good offer"Worth noting this line from The Telegraph article:
It is unclear yet whether the Glazers want to completely end their hugely controversial 18-year ownership. United are expected to inform interested parties in the coming days that formal bids will be taken next month for total buyouts as well as minority stakes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ed-takeover-bids-imminent-middle-east-asia-us
Some of them will just be trying to make a name for themselves and won't really be serious bidders. For serious bidders, there is little reason to waste time getting the fans onboard, when the Glazers could not care less about the opinion of the fans.The article also says:
" Over the coming weeks, potential investors from around the world will go public with their attempts to buy the sporting giant."
Given that the Glazers don't care what the fans want and aren't arsed about protests, what would be the point?
I too think that this will be the preferred option of at least one or two of them. As you say, it remains to be seen whether they can pull it off. Failing that, they will have no choice but to accept a full takeover as their current business model has finally failed, due to pressure from essential infrastructure investments.I get the feeling that they'd love to have a controlling stake with a minority investor financing everything. The problem they have is no one is daft enough to do it
Zero chance the Glazers sell a minority. It's all or nothing.Worth noting this line from The Telegraph article:
It is unclear yet whether the Glazers want to completely end their hugely controversial 18-year ownership. United are expected to inform interested parties in the coming days that formal bids will be taken next month for total buyouts as well as minority stakes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ed-takeover-bids-imminent-middle-east-asia-us
Red Army.
Ah, ffs. Mid February for bids means no realistic completion (acceptance of bid is not a sale for the purposes of running the club) until April or even May earliest, in my opinion.
Bloody Glazers are going to transfer saga even the sale of this great institution. Hate the rats.
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Really hope we stay with relatively clean ownership somehow, I'd much prefer someone like the Glazers or even prefer them to stay on rather than take ME ownership.
Yeah that is a very good pointI mean pedantics aside I suppose they had to distinguish the Arab owners from the Chinese/Indian ones. 'Asia' is a wildly ambiguous umbrella.
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18 years of these fvcking rats and you post this? UnbelievableReally hope we stay with relatively clean ownership somehow, I'd much prefer someone like the Glazers or even prefer them to stay on rather than take ME ownership.
As long as they look after our club long term and not saddle it with debt I'm happy.I'm so glad you don't get make the decisions
Grass ain't always greener, etc.18 years of these fvcking rats and you post this? Unbelievable
This has come from an article in the Times.This is all speculation. I wouldn't trust a verified football account to give me specifics on billion dollar business purchases.
They might have a point but I would also guess that there's a prospectus pack for all interested parties and once someone is successful, there might be additional DD. The again, rich ME owners might just say, we're paying it.
Still think March looks way too early but happy to be wrong
Stockholm syndrome?Really hope we stay with relatively clean ownership somehow, I'd much prefer someone like the Glazers or even prefer them to stay on rather than take ME ownership.
how could you possibly know this?Asia as in East Asia?
No one in Asia would want to invest in big football club.
Yeah I am praying this isn't an optionWorth noting this line from The Telegraph article:
It is unclear yet whether the Glazers want to completely end their hugely controversial 18-year ownership. United are expected to inform interested parties in the coming days that formal bids will be taken next month for total buyouts as well as minority stakes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ed-takeover-bids-imminent-middle-east-asia-us
As am I. It's time for them to go. In fact, the time is long overdue.Yeah I am praying this isn't an option
Thats actually false. Mukesh Ambani's name has been linked with buying a football club.Asia as in East Asia?
No one in Asia would want to invest in big football club.
Biggest update on situation for a while
I think you need to leave this thread, you’re type is not wanted around here.Really hope we stay with relatively clean ownership somehow, I'd much prefer someone like the Glazers or even prefer them to stay on rather than take ME ownership.
Yeah definitely. And the article says that there will be a lot of news coming in the next few weeks tooBiggest update on situation for a while
I'm sure there's interest the issue is with City and Newcastle and psg being owned by those states, there's potential conflict of interest, so it would need to be one of the states without a team, or private funding from one of the ME countries, the Saudis were always the ones we were linked with but that seems out with Newcastle, though its entirely possible that a state backed but technically private investor would bidME interest was confirmed ages ago, even in the world cup.
Well said.As long as they look after our club long term and not saddle it with debt I'm happy.
Yup if anybody like Kuhn Vichai purchased the club I’d be very happy.Can't another Thai billionaire buy the club? Leicester's owner seems very likeable...
Fecking hell, that’s the worst ever scenario we could get.Really hope we stay with relatively clean ownership somehow, I'd much prefer someone like the Glazers or even prefer them to stay on rather than take ME ownership.
Let's just both hope for the formerYeah definitely. And the article says that there will be a lot of news coming in the next few weeks too
Other than wanting the Glazers out like any sensible person, I don't completely know how to feel about a takeover. But I know I want clarity ASAP so I know what to expect.
Some owners would obviously make us one of the Worlds best, others would send us into a further decline. No idea which we'll get.