ghaliboy
Snitches on Tom Hagen
Lol "See Hargreaves and Fletcher cases. I just wanted some perspective.... Anyone?... Perhaps I will go and ask in the commercial sports rights league thread.."
Yes of course it's of interest, certainly since the financial restrictions of the Glazer family. Is it the insurance company that picks up the bill for the wages during any lengthy absence? Does a player have to retire for the club to claim a value for them.Why would anyone give a shit whether or when we can claim insurance?
Is that what the modern fan is interested in?
What irritates me is why he wants to know something like this, when the main priority of the club and I think it should be for the fans too is that he recovers from his operation well. Regardless of if he returns or not, having a better quality of life is the most important thing.fecking retarded question.
Tomorrows hot topic "what are the terms of the Public Liability Insurance on OT."
I'm bloody certain it would be of interest if we didn't qualify for the CL for a couple of seasons and the club was on the brink of doing a Leeds!fecking retarded question.
Tomorrows hot topic "what are the terms of the Public Liability Insurance on OT."
Yeah, the idea behind your logic is fine, but you're missing the point.I'm bloody certain it would be of interest if we didn't qualify for the CL for a couple of seasons and the club was on the brink of doing a Leeds!
Oh Christ! It goes without saying we all want Fletcher to recover from this but is that all we can post!! Without sounding insensitive! Grow a pair!What irritates me is why he wants to know something like this, when the main priority of the club and I think it should be for the fans too is that he recovers from his operation well. Regardless of if he returns or not, having a better quality of life is the most important thing.
Even if he didn't mean to sound insensitive, it still comes across as hugely insenstive considering the fact that Fletcher has a debilitating illness that severeley reduces his quality of life.
Why bother asking about the insurance? That right now simply does not matter, and it is downright insensitive too.
Yeah but that's not the case, so I ask again, why do you give a shit.I'm bloody certain it would be of interest if we didn't qualify for the CL for a couple of seasons and the club was on the brink of doing a Leeds!
I think you're missing the point. It's equally important for the player. Who knows if Fletcher will recover but one things for sure he would have had a good few more contract renewals without this awful illness. I think I'm right in saying he's got 2 kids? The potential loss of earnings for him is enormous. I'm just curious as to what happens in this situation, it's not like we're taking about small change for club or player (window cleaner).Yeah but that's not the case, so I ask again, why do you give a shit.
We'll get whatever/ any insurance when we get it.
How much are we paying the window cleaners? Is it comparable to other clubs or are we over paying? - now there's a burning question. Why not give that some thought until you pass out from the anxiety of the uncertainty.
I felt that way too.Am I the only one who thought that the article sounded quite positive?
Aims to "resolve" the problem and put it "firmly behind" him by having this surgery. IIRC, previous statements mentioned that we hoped to "manage" the problem.
Sounds to me like the club think that this surgery can help Fletcher to actually make a strong comeback.
you really don't get it.... Read what everyone has said to a few times, then respond...I think you're missing the point. It's equally important for the player. Who knows if Fletcher will recover but one things for sure he would have had a good few more contract renewals without this awful illness. I think I'm right in saying he's got 2 kids? The potential loss of earnings for him is enormous. I'm just curious as to what happens in this situation, it's not like we're taking about small change for club or player (window cleaner).
Do you mean we brought him back too early, or the fact we brought him back at all?I think we made a mistake bringing him back, to be honest. Great player at his best but what were the chances he'd ever be anywhere near his best again?
It's just the right course of action. Surgery is always a last resort for any illness if there are other less invasive therapies available first.I haven't a clue at the issue, but just for arguments sake... If surgery can cure him, why did he previously go through the route of trying to 'manage' it?
If he's in any way holding us back from signing other players then I personally think it was a mistake to bring him back at all. I personally thought it was pretty obvious he wouldn't be getting back to his best.Do you mean we brought him back too early, or the fact we brought him back at all?
Don't think thats fair comment to say that he was stopping us from signing new players. The coaches and the doctors would have made an educated judgement on his progress about whether he could return, at that time, to this level. Sure, he looked like someone who was rusty but doesnt any player who comes back from injury.If he's in any way holding us back from signing other players then I personally think it was a mistake to bring him back at all. I personally thought it was pretty obvious he wouldn't be getting back to his best.I love Fletcher and hope he can be completely healthy after this but I think sentiment will be the only reason for keeping him with the first team.
I said "if" though, I have no way of knowing whether he was holding us back from signing new players and I didn't mean to imply that he was. Your point does still stand though, if the doctors and coaching staff thought he would be able to get back to his best then it's a risk worth taking I suppose. I just personally never thought that would happen and this new surgery only makes things worse in my eyes, he'll basically be completely starting over again and he'll be close to 30 by the time he comes back.Don't think thats fair comment to say that he was stopping us from signing new players. The coaches and the doctors would have made an educated judgement on his progress about whether he could return, at that time, to this level. Sure, he looked like someone who was rusty but doesnt any player who comes back from injury.
Whether he gets the all clear after this surgery or not is a different matter, but i'd rather believe that the doctors and coaches have Fletchers best interests at heart, as well as the club. No-one will keep him for sentiments sake.
The latter, obviously.Do you mean we brought him back too early, or the fact we brought him back at all?
Has he looked quality to you this season?Obvious that you wouldn't want a quality player back?
A player who hasn't played football for a year, hadn't played good football for two years, and had a very serious condition which at one point seemed would stop him ever playing again (hence SAF saying he could make him a coach).Obvious that you wouldn't want a quality player back?
Good to hear your view on it!I felt that way too.
Having successfully fully recovered from this condition myself (having gone through exactly the same symptoms and surgeries Fletcher has 6 years ago), I think that if every goes well, Fletcher could be able to get back to full fitness.
The surgery eradicates the problem and should allow for full fitness to be regained. Im also assuming surgery techniques and rehabilitation procedures will have significantly improved since I underwent treatment in 2005.
It's not a ridiculous question. Not specifically in Fletcher's case, but in general, I'd like to know if clubs take out insurance on players and under what circumstances they would be able to make a claim. I'm also curious to know if players also have some sort of employment insurance in case of injury or a long-term illness that would end their career.Yeah but that's not the case, so I ask again, why do you give a shit.
We'll get whatever/ any insurance when we get it.
Not necessarily. There might be provision in the insurance contract to cover the long term loss of a players services due to injury. Does he have to retire?He didn't retire, so of course we didn't!