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Not his fault for the goal. Made some excellent saves to keep the score down.
A few posts back in the thread I said De Gea was unfortunate rather than poor, but having read your comment and rewatched the goal I think De Gea was a little slow to react. Pogba should do better but De Gea could have reacted quicker and got himself set.He was partly at fault for the goal. Not being 'set' as a keeper isn't unfortunate, it's bad judgement. He probably wasn't expecting the shot from there from Kante, and the way Kante's body shape was didn't look like a shot was coming, but as a keeper it's his job to always anticipate.
Pogba falling to close down Kante and Kante himself not being known for his shooting prowess played it's part.Amazes me how people don't understand goalkeeping errors. Look at the replay before the shot is made and you will see that despite Konte making a run up to take that shot De Gea is not ready, he is simply standing whereas his knees should be bent and ready for a shot. Since he is hopping across the goal and not prepared for a jump he was always going to concede as he was wrong footed.
He did however make two unstable shots so I forgive him for this.
I agree that he wasn't set. Setting aside the fact that Pogba didn't close Kante down, which lead to shot to begin with, when De Gea was called upon in this sequence, he did fail. Not taking anything away from Kante's strike, but I do think that De Gea is one of the best two or three goalkeepers in the world, so I was a bit surprised to see that one go in.He was partly at fault for the goal. Not being 'set' as a keeper isn't unfortunate, it's bad judgement. He probably wasn't expecting the shot from there from Kante, and the way Kante's body shape was didn't look like a shot was coming, but as a keeper it's his job to always anticipate.
He's still been very good this season, made 2 amazing saves in the game on Monday and he is no problem at all in this team right now. He's quality.
My basic understanding is it's thought the mini-spring before main change of direction/save the allows the muscles to exert greater force during the ensuing ballistic movement, and thus cover more ground and reach further. Tennis players do it too as they receive serve; Andy Murray is a great example.I agree that he wasn't set. Setting aside the fact that Pogba didn't close Kante down, which lead to shot to begin with, when De Gea was called upon in this sequence, he did fail. Not taking anything away from Kante's strike, but I do think that De Gea is one of the best two or three goalkeepers in the world, so I was a bit surprised to see that one go in.
But not for those exact reasons you've stated. I wouldn't call it bad judgement, nor would I call it a lack of anticipation, since he anticipated the shot and actually was expecting it, but chose the wrong method in doing so:
De Gea's mistake was what goalkeepers sometimes do unwisely nowadays. I'm talking about the small itty witty vertical jumps/leaps/dashes whilst following the ball sideways. If you're airborne whilst the shot is off, you've already lost precious time in getting there to save it, especially if you've been moving in the opposite direction – which is exactly what happened on that goal. Clearly evident in the replays showing the goal from the cameras mounted in the goal, behind the goalkeepers.
Stop jumping around and keep your feet grounded for a push-off instead, so that when the shot does get released, you're giving yourself the best chance of reaching it. Considering his insane reflexes we've all come to expect from him, which we witnessed yet again previously in this very same match, there is no doubt in my mind that he would've saved that one if not for those tippy-toe-jumps whilst the shot was fired.
Pundits have highlighted these type of goalkeeper jumps in the past, they don't understand it, neither do I.
No doubts, but two wrongs don't make a right.Pogba falling to close down Kante and Kante himself not being known for his shooting prowess played it's part.
Ik but he isn't the only one to blame tho.No doubts, but two wrongs don't make a right.
Not trying to be arrogant, but this is not tennis and therefore goalkeepers' main objective isn't to return balls with as much force as possible, but instead to smother or parry them. Neither is there any external equipment equivalent to tennis players' rackets, to help extend goalkeepers' reach with anyway.My basic understanding is it's thought the mini-spring before main change of direction/save the allows the muscles to exert greater force during the ensuing ballistic movement, and thus cover more ground and reach further. Tennis players do it too as they receive serve; Andy Murray is a great example.
Pogba closing down was poor and Rojo not stepping out was poor. DDG was also a bit slow going down for me although I blame Pogba and Rojo.A few posts back in the thread I said De Gea was unfortunate rather than poor, but having read your comment and rewatched the goal I think De Gea was a little slow to react. Pogba should do better but De Gea could have reacted quicker and got himself set.
That being said from the below angle it looks like a combination of poor closing down by Pogba and Rojo being slightly out of position having been dragged across to Smalling's man gave Kante a huge amount of the goal to De Gea's left to aim at, which could explain why De Gea was moving that way.
He must be used to it by now...Kinda sad he gets robbed off clean sheets cos of brainfarts from our defenders. Can count today, vs Arsenal, vs Everton as obvious ones.
Our defense should be paying for his bonus.Kinda sad he gets robbed off clean sheets cos of brainfarts from our defenders. Can count today, vs Arsenal, vs Everton as obvious ones.
Look at his reaction to Smallings own goal against Bournemouth at Old Trafford last season. Denied him the Golden Glove or whatever its called. Probably drives him batshit crazy.Kinda sad he gets robbed off clean sheets cos of brainfarts from our defenders. Can count today, vs Arsenal, vs Everton as obvious ones.
How the feck is thst an easy goal?Last month, maybe even two, he hardly saves anything, he concedes rather easy goals and makes strange mistakes. He is clearly out of balance. I think it's due to a possible summer transfer. With MU obviously lagging behind in terms of returning to the top level it's only fair that Real move is back on. And Navas as i gather is not exactly popular in Madrid making one mistake after another.
It was right through him, a top keeper should save that. Just look at saves opposition keepers make against MU, a lot of time it's a "half a second" reaction time. That's never mind thew fact, that if the ball is high in a goal area a GK must get the ball or at least punch it.How the feck is thst an easy goal?
He's got about half a second to react and he's completely blindsided by Rojo.
Its literally past him before he's seen it. There's absolutely nothing he can do except hope he gets lucky and it hits him.It was right through him, a top keeper should save that. Just look at saves opposition keepers make against MU, a lot of time it's a "half a second" reaction time. That's never mind thew fact, that if the ball is high in a goal area a GK must get the ball or at least punch it.
This.Its literally past him before he's seen it. There's absolutely nothing he can do except hope he gets lucky and it hits him.
Now whether he should have come and claimed it is another matter, but criticising him for not saving that is silly.