Why's caf's favorite Depay not starting?
Day 2: England vs Iran | Senegal vs Netherlands | USA vs Wales
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Senegal vs Holland, now this is a real WC game, this is what we came here for.
The fact he played for England in the first place was nuts.
The 2010 team (and world cup) was proper shit for England.
That was a brilliant display, blew them away and Bellingham and Saka were terrific. Still think the defence will struggle against top players but it's exactly what we needed to start the tournament.
The Dutch v Senegal should be a good one.
The Dutch v Senegal should be a good one.
Is that Gakpo as a 10 or a false 9 or what? What even is this graphic?
The Dutch really love their CBs
I for one am shocked a world class player like Depay isn't playing...
Prayer time or traffic is my guess
Can we borrow some of their CBs? They're really stacked in a position we are severely lacking
Doesn't really work like that does it? Look at the gulf in quality and depth in their CBs to England.
Disappointed El Hadji Diouf is not starting
He is not completely fit yet I imagine. His last match was over 2 months ago.
Normally Memphis would start over Janssen… but even with Memphis its not exactly Robben + RvP
Someone mentioned that he is injured?
How the hell are Ireland ranked 29 places below Iran? 
No Memphis for Holland?
To be fair, if they're gonna put Van Dijk out there, they need a CB on each side of him.
The Dutch really love their CBs
A fit Memphis is the second name on the sheet
Yeah it was, but there have been a few like that. That’s why I don’t want to get carried away. I’m just ready for the heartache and disappointment. I think 02 was the worst one for me. Really thought we could do something. We could have beaten Brazil but then David Seaman….
Yeah, there's a lot to get excited about but that's a tad worrying.
How have Netherlands only have Those 2 up front?
Long fall from strikers of yesteryear.
Long fall from strikers of yesteryear.
One post dispels another unintentionally
Ireland would get destroyed in the asian cupHow the hell are Ireland ranked 29 places below Iran?
In terms of the full squad? I’d say it does. The money pumped into premier league teams has gone to improve not just the first teams, but academies too. When you’ve got 10/15 world class academies all bringing through youth players during the time when money in football is absolutely booming you’ll get a decent squad. Not trying to downplay the Netherlands, but their national team was towards the top of the world when their clubs were too. It was a matter of time for England to “come good” let’s say with the premier league being there.
This is international football.
By 2018 PL was already best league in the world, and France won the WC with only 4-5 players in the PL, Euro 2020 was won by Italy with only Jorginho playing in the PL, and the rest in Serie A which is far behind PL since the early 2010s.
I don't think the league dictates much in international football, otherwise Scotland would have qualified to this WC, but they lost to some teams whose players are in exotic leagues.
Bergwijn Janssen is surely our worst ever attack in a world cup game? I almost miss Dirk Kuyt
Qatar won it in 2019. One year ago Ireland beat Qatar 4-0. Doesn’t mean much, but Ireland certainly would not get destroyed.
We might not have the worst forward line thanks to you guys.Bergwijn Janssen is surely our worst ever attack in a world cup game? I almost miss Dirk Kuyt
Chelsea won the CL with Werner and Havertz. PSG didnt with Neymar, Mbappe and Messi. You dont need to best forward line to win. We have a strong defense.
England got to the semis in 2018, no? That’s 4 years near enough to the top of international game. I’d definitely say the premier league has a huge say in that. Italy also didn’t qualify for 2018 or this World Cup. In either case, I’m talking about England having such a strong squad. They have insane depth of good to great football players, all of them coming from English academies which have benefited from the money and quality that’s come from the premier league.
Ireland also drew 1-1 earlier on that year with Qatar
Yeah, they got destroyed 1-1?
Feck me I'm excited. I apologise in advance for my behaviour should we lose today.
Or win.
Or win.
What's the general consensus on Gakpo? Saw him a bit at PSV, looks pretty promising.
Makaay and Hasselbaink hardly got minutes and now they would be one of the starplayers. Times have changedBergwijn Janssen is surely our worst ever attack in a world cup game? I almost miss Dirk Kuyt
No you are right , that was by Luxembourg
Struggles with end product. heh
What does that have to do with Ireland getting hypothetically "destroyed" at the Asian Cup?
Stadium looks quite empty atm. Too bad.
Real shame Mane isn’t playing a part..
All those empty seats.......that is just sad