Inigo Montoya
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Yes, he’s a cnut!It feels like he's always semi-anonymous in European (or international) games. Anyone got any thoughts why?
Yes, he’s a cnut!It feels like he's always semi-anonymous in European (or international) games. Anyone got any thoughts why?
Because often his side plays without the ball in big matches.It feels like he's always semi-anonymous in European (or international) games. Anyone got any thoughts why?
Definitely a factor but Willian has repeatedly proven in big games that you can do a lot with very little of the ball. Hazard gets more attention but I don't think it excuses so many no-shows.Because often his side plays without the ball in big matches.
I think he's been good. But I find him to be a really weird player, like with the amount of ability he has he can do more if you get what I mean. He seems to make the best decision in terms of finding the open man, but he's more than good enough to just take it on himself - and as their best player he can do more damage than the other guys.It feels like he's always semi-anonymous in European (or international) games. Anyone got any thoughts why?
A player like Willian is going to be more suited for a counter attacking setup than someone like Hazard.Definitely a factor but Willian has repeatedly proven in big games that you can do a lot with very little of the ball. Hazard gets more attention but I don't think it excuses so many no-shows.
He has been the best player for two PL title winning sides and both season's they were heavily reliant on him creating.Hazard is one of the mest overrated players in the game atm.
Good player, but hardly turns up when his team needs their biggest star in Champions League.
Was non-existent against Barca tonight despite playing on his favorite position as a LW after complaining on his dislike for being a F9.
Hardly a 'world class' that everyone makes him out to be, don't think he would cut in at a club of Real Madrid's caliber.
Even Willian, Chelsea's best player by a large margin since 2018, has outperformed Hazard over these 2 legs against Barca.
If you're good enough, then it won't really be a hindrance.The arguments against Hazard are bizarre, what exactly expect him to do when he is always in setups set to counter attack with little of the ball.
And? Hazard has been incredibly underwhelming at the biggest stage in club football way too often.He has been the best player for two PL title winning sides and both season's they were heavily reliant on him creating.
Hyperbole. Atletico's achievements are largely a team effort. No one has been carrying them except possibly Simeone. Also, this Chelsea team simply isn't as good as Atletico were. They definitely have worse midfielders and a worse defence.If you're good enough, then it won't really be a hindrance.
Didn't stop Griezmann to carry Atlético Madrid to final & semi-final in the two last seasons and they've the same approach as Chelsea.
That's what Hazard is expected to do for Chelsea and he's failed miserably at this task.
I think he's been good. But I find him to be a really weird player, like with the amount of ability he has he can do more if you get what I mean. He seems to make the best decision in terms of finding the open man, but he's more than good enough to just take it on himself - and as their best player he can do more damage than the other guys.
Hyperbole. Atletico's achievements are largely a team effort. No one has been carrying them except possibly Simeone. Also, this Chelsea team simply isn't as good as Atletico were. They definitely have worse midfielders and a worse defence.
I think Hazard is below the absolute elite (Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo) but this current Chelsea team does not have a proper goalscorer in their ranks. Hazard is a playmaker and would look a lot better in a more attacking team and at least surrounded by a real goal scorer or two. He does let himself down at times and isn't clinical enough but some of it has to do with the team as well.
And he doesn't need to be to be great, currently he is better than Ronaldo imo, one just happens to play with Kroos Modric Marcelo Isco behind him as opposed to Kante Willian Drinkwater.@Sanche7 He is not Messi or Cristiano because no one is. And he has always been a Ribery type wide playmaker so expecting huge goal totals from him is silly.
He's part of the problem though. He himself makes few runs behind the defence and often will ignore a good run in favour of overdribbling. He's a great player but incredibly overrated at the same timeChelsea just don't take attacking seriously. They have him but no one who can make a run in behind the defence.
He isn't we've seen the best Neymar could do with Mbappe Cavani and Veratti besides him.He definitely is below Neymar.
Still, the biggest flaw Hazard has is determination/drive. He routinely goes through patches of form where he’s ridiculously quiet in terms of outlet and general threat because he’s not come out of second gear. Chelsea having such poverty in creativity can only justify so much (and to be fair it does justify a lot).
Wrong he is a great passer and even in bad seasons his goal scoring contribution are still very good. In Madrid or Barcelonas teams he would be allowed to be the facilitator, that means more assists more key passes and even more goals because of he quality of attacking players around him, you can't just double mark Hazard when Ronaldo Isco and Modric around him.He's part of the problem though. He himself makes few runs behind the defence and often will ignore a good run in favour of overdribbling. He's a great player but incredibly overrated at the same time
And about chelsea's playing style, weird that people claim chelsea's playing style doesn't get the best of him and then follow that by saying how amazing he's been in two title winning campaigns for them...
Imho, chelsea's playstyle absolutely gets the best from him and he wouldn't look as good on a team like city. He is, first and foremost, a dribbler. He's a world class dribbler with great passing accuracy, but good-player-average vision and decision making, poor movement off the ball, poor shooting, and little goalscoring instincts.
Disagree with that. Neymar is definitely better than Hazard IMO.He isn't even below Neymar tbh, put Neymar at Chelsea and they wouldn't go past Barcelona and they would probably win as much as they have with Hazard.
Neymar isn't a miracle worker he plays for a far better attacking team than Chelsea in PSG and couldn't drag them over the line when push came to shove, in fact his performance was derided in some places.
Would like to see what he does with PSG then, esepcially if Hazard goes to Madrid in the summer, the general narrative is that not until you go to those two big Spanish clubs do you get the plaudits you deserve.Disagree with that. Neymar is definitely better than Hazard IMO.
When they were going through their slump?He had a performance as good as it can get against Atletico..
Would stand to reason if other players in his team weren't standing out for sterling performances.And when you don't play for a team that does anything of note in the Champions League how many memorable champions league performances can you put in? Common sense.
So Hazard can put memorable performance only if Chelesa does something in CL? Yeah common sense.And when you don't play for a team that does anything of note in the Champions League how many memorable champions league performances can you put in? Common sense.
Yes it helps...So Hazard can put memorable performance only if Chelesa does something in CL? Yeah common sense.
Lewandowski put one of the best performance against Madrid when he was playing for Dortmund and till then Dortmund didn't do anything in CL, even getting knocked out in group stages.
Bang on the money about goalscoring instincts, he'll probably pass it to a free man when faced with an open goal. But disagree a lot about all the others. His shooting is superb when he does take it on. And I guarantee that if he couldn't dribble he would have made a career from his passing and vision. It's a very underrated part of his game just because his dribbling overshadows it. More often than not he finds the right pass and makes it stick. He really needs another version of himself to shine in our team, one to make the play the other to receive it. The other players can't really be trusted with either role...Willian is the exception right now but only because he's going through the best form of his Chelsea career while the rest of the team has had a slump. Madness to compare him to Hazard on most other days.Imho, chelsea's playstyle absolutely gets the best from him and he wouldn't look as good on a team like city. He is, first and foremost, a dribbler. He's a world class dribbler with great passing accuracy, but good-player-average vision and decision making, poor movement off the ball, poor shooting, and little goalscoring instincts.
Dortmund. They went to CL finals because he played amazing game against Madrid. That's what I'm saying, putting in memorable performance.Yes it helps...
And Context mate, what team was Lewandowski playing for and who was his manager?
Is that the same years they went to CL final?
Willian had one good performance against Barca last week wouldn't exactly call it memorable though.When they were going through their slump?
Would stand to reason if other players in his team weren't standing out for sterling performances.
Yes under Klopp one of the best attacking managers in the world, and a Dortmund team who were in their prime and a fine attacking outfit themselves, that's sort of he point Hazard hasn't played for Klopp or Guardiola, and he hasn't played for teams as expansive and as well oiled as an attacking collective as that same Dortmund team Lewandowski played for.Dortmund. They went to CL finals because he played amazing game against Madrid. That's what I'm saying, putting in memorable performance.
Anyone said he isn't a big game player in PL? People are questioning his CL performance which is correct as Hazard is superb player and his performance in CL isn't as good as it should be.Some laughable comments from people that only watch Hazard play every so often. He's proven time and time again he's a big game player in the PL.
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