Inigo Montoya
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What's he mean, makeweight? Lingard is loved at WHU by all accounts and would love a moveTweet
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Lindgard presumably thinks he can do better than West Ham, if that report is accurate. Lingard would be wrong about that.What's he mean, makeweight? Lingard is loved at WHU by all accounts and would love a move
You could argue that Rennes has been that stepping stone club for him. He's gotten a decent amount of experience in a Top 5 league for a few seasons, and if a big club makes a convincing offer outlining further development and path to regular starts then he doesn't need to stop at yet another stepping stone club.Would be nightmare if Dortmund enter the bid. We almost always lost our top best young targets to them, as they are clearly best stepping stone clubs for turning top young talent players into real star players. They just have plenty of money to spend from Sancho sales too, of course.
We should look at other options because they are both left footed?If he moves straight into the starting XI, then I expect his partner in midfield to be Fred. He is left-footed, and Fred is also left-footed. We should look at other options imo.
It'd be just like him to have that one good season there then revert back to underachieving once he's movedLindgard presumably thinks he can do better than West Ham, if that report is accurate. Lingard would be wrong about that.
ParasitesLook at all this tasty noise. So many journos joining in the party now.
Shaw is left footed and so is Telles, Amad.....that's far too many. They might cause dissention within the dressing room, especially if they're left handed tooWe should look at other options because they are both left footed?
There is no world where owning Fred should stop you from getting a talented player.If he moves straight into the starting XI, then I expect his partner in midfield to be Fred. He is left-footed, and Fred is also left-footed. We should look at other options imo.
I would hope that (long term) he and Fred would compete for the same spot, alongside a proper holding midfielder with decent passing ability.If he moves straight into the starting XI, then I expect his partner in midfield to be Fred. He is left-footed, and Fred is also left-footed. We should look at other options imo.
True, we have to be careful there. Given Ole's, let's say, "conservative" tendencies *, he probably isn't keen on too many lefties.Shaw is left footed and so is Telles, Amad.....that's far too many. They might cause dissention within the dressing room, especially if they're left handed too
Is that a pun. How is that a punI think it is a Big Cama-Day Yes x
Swap Pogba for Grealish and then its a whole summer of kleenex and hand cream.
I saw someone say the Camavinga actually was the holding midfielder but when they signed nzonzi that's when he started playing box to box.No. As you have said, Camavinga is a box-to-box player, not a holding midfielder.
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Wonder if they were laughing at the transfer offer or laughing at the fact that they were contacted by GFFN
What do you mean ”no”?No. As you have said, Camavinga is a box-to-box player, not a holding midfielder.
We don't know that though. A couple of clubs like Bayern just do business in a clandestine manner, whereas others like Chelsea have historically swooped in at the 11th hour with a hijacked bid. We just seem to be amongst the most vocal in our transfer pursuits since we seemingly love a long, drawn out transfer saga. Though I'm hoping those days have come to an end.Seems a bit mental that no other teams seem to be (seriously) in for him. A few 'interested' but nothing as seemingly solid as our pursuit.
True, we have to be careful there. Given Ole's, let's say, "conservative" tendencies *, he probably isn't keen on too many lefties.
* Being diplomatic, of course: the man's a flaming racist, sexist advocate of child hunger.
They knew he'd definitely leave mate. Imo they have already found or are looking for a replacement. It's not like he'd stay anyway.Agreed but they're going to want to get a replacement in and it's not fun doing last minute shopping when no one's selling good players.
That is normally true, but Bouhafsi pretty much admitted that his source was Camavinga's agent. Could very well be the agent trying to spark a bidding war or get PSG to wake the feck up.Bouhafsi is probably one of the most trustworthy journalist out there. There are hardly any French news he has got wrong. Plus Romano is backing this
On Mata, some signings are more than just what the player offers on the pitch. Has a lot to do with off the field.We dont need this guy, nor Rice nor Grealish, we just resigned Juan Mata
We extended Mata's contract at a lower wage and all reports are that we are trying to transition him through to being a member of staff. He is undoubtedly a very good presence around the club and everyone seems to love him. So get out of here with this unrelated negative slant on things.We dont need this guy, nor Rice nor Grealish, we just resigned Juan Mata
The question was "can Camavinga play as a single holding midfielder with Pogba and Bruno in front of him?" He's an 18 year old kid playing as a box-to-box midfielder at a mid-table French side - he is definitely not able to play as the sole holding midfielder in a top team with the kind of demands that would be placed upon him by having to cover defensively for both Pogba AND Bruno, singlehandedly. It is questionable whether there is a player in world football who would be capable of performing that role without the side being overrun.What do you mean ”no”?
Kimmich was converted, Lahm converted, yet an 18 year old actual midfielder who has played there is a ”no”.
Lad has some skillset, can be whatever he wants to be.
According to the caf, no one in the word can play that role.Can Camavinga play as a single holding midfielfer with Pogba and Bruno in front of him? I dont see that as he likes to drive upwards a lot with the ball, leaving space behind him. A typical box to box. A Declan Rise is much more suited with Pogba and Bruno imo. Camavinga would play alongside Fred or Mctominay.
His standout quality is his ability to break up oppositions attacks and start the transition with a pass or dribble. I would say that he is the most naturally suited player for a deep lying playmaker role, it would be a shame to not exploit the one thing that makes him different to most players of his age.The question was "can Camavinga play as a single holding midfielder with Pogba and Bruno in front of him?" He's an 18 year old kid playing as a box-to-box midfielder at a mid-table French side - he is definitely not able to play as the sole holding midfielder in a top team with the kind of demands that would be placed upon him by having to cover defensively for both Pogba AND Bruno, singlehandedly. It is questionable whether there is a player in world football who would be capable of performing that role without the side being overrun.
In terms of the potential to convert him to a holding midfield role at some point in his career - yes, I'm sure it would be possible, but would it be desirable? His standout attribute is his ability to dribble the ball forward from midfield - seems a shame to put that to waste by having him sit deep and break up play behind two attacking midfielders, especially when there are other players who are more naturally suited to such a role.
Statistics are always flawed though. Just because a player does lots of something, it doesn't mean its a good thing. He does look more box to box than holding from what I've seen but he's so young that I think he could be moulded into a variety of roles.You are correct. Everyone refers back to FBref these days, because so much great data is freely available.
Camavinga is in the 42nd percentile among midfielders for progressive passes (ie he doesn't do many of them). He's in the 88th percentile for progressive carries, 95th percentile for completed dribbles, 88th percentile for pressures and 97th percentile for tackles.
I understand the reticence to agree with the question but as far as talents go and his tackling/defensive abilities I think he could possibly be told to sit and protect the back four, not out of the realms of possibility.The question was "can Camavinga play as a single holding midfielder with Pogba and Bruno in front of him?" He's an 18 year old kid playing as a box-to-box midfielder at a mid-table French side - he is definitely not able to play as the sole holding midfielder in a top team with the kind of demands that would be placed upon him by having to cover defensively for both Pogba AND Bruno, singlehandedly. It is questionable whether there is a player in world football who would be capable of performing that role without the side being overrun.
In terms of the potential to convert him to a holding midfield role at some point in his career - yes, I'm sure it would be possible, but would it be desirable? His standout attribute is his ability to dribble the ball forward from midfield - seems a shame to put that to waste by having him sit deep and break up play behind two attacking midfielders, especially when there are other players who are more naturally suited to such a role.
Would feel much more confident if the likes of Whitwell, Ducker & Stone started talking up our interest in him, until then it still feels like Rice is the preferred midfield target even though they are very different types of playersLook at all this tasty noise. So many journos joining in the party now.
We should look at other options because they are both left footed?
YesWe should look at other options because they are both left footed?
We shouldn't just be looking at talented players, we should be looking at talented players that are better than our current options, and would fit into the system.There is no world where owning Fred should stop you from getting a talented player.
I imagine Fred will be dropped anyway, it'll be a Camavinga/McTominay double pivot.I was actually thinking about having a midfield with two left footed players. It’s not ideal. Like the centre backs you’d like it split to be able to play the comfortable ball into the space with the inside of your foot on either side…
Either way Camavinga at those prices makes total sense from a squad building perspective.
Here here!We extended Mata's contract at a lower wage and all reports are that we are trying to transition him through to being a member of staff. He is undoubtedly a very good presence around the club and everyone seems to love him. So get out of here with this unrelated negative slant on things.
Mct doesn’t stack up against the competition apart from goals. Fred does. Maybe Camavinga will eventually phase Fred out of the team but I’d put money on it that Camavinga McT will never be our regular midfield.I imagine Fred will be dropped anyway, it'll be a Camavinga/McTominay double pivot.