Sir Eric to youCrossed a line? Jesus.
You should see some of the shit in the player performance threads. Anything goes in there apparently but no ones allowed to question the mighty Ten Hag.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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The solution is Sancho, Rashford, McTominey, Shaw, Martial all out on their arse so the new manager can have a clean slate and a chance to work with players who are ready to play for him and won’t cause trouble at the slightest provocation.
That list have been here too long and are senior members of a toxic dressing room. Out they go with their mate Sancho
It feels like a matter of time now before he gets the boot. The ‘leakers’ will get a fresh start and probably hit some good form under a new boss before throwing them under the bus around early 2025. Same shit different day!
Quality control
Guy is a clown, his obsession with De Gea was also weird as feck.
I’m replying to the people who are “sick of these players” and want to “sell them all before sacking the manager”.
Do you realise how much of a mental take that is? Half the squad are Ten Hags signings, the other half have hardly played. How can players that have hardly played stage a revolt? Who’s going to take them seriously?
The manager has caused this scenario by buying absolute rubbish players, running the good players into the ground then having to play the players who aren’t good enough to start week in week out every week, after telling them they were surplus and benching them all last season. And now it’s the players fault? I mean come on, you can handle things better than this if you’re going to be successful.
Oh look, here’s the guy obsessed with De Gea bringing up De Gea again and telling other people they’re obsessed with De Gea. Never change.Booking myself in for the tattoo as we speak!
This sort of thing all comes down to what Keane repeats time and time again about having the right characters at the club. A blind man on a galloping horse can see that United haven’t those characters for a long time.
Essentially it’s put up or shut up time for Ten Hag (and the club!) with a lot of these players. If they aren’t culled in the summer then he’s a dead man walking.
Essentially it’s put up or shut up time for Ten Hag (and the club!) with a lot of these players. If they aren’t culled in the summer then he’s a dead man walking.
Could well be. Something's definitely up.
It isn't the same group of players though, what the feck are you guys on about?
Just because they wear the same red shirt, it's not the same people. How many players since Ole took over from Mou are still here and influential? A couple at most.
If it's an obvious group or the same few then fair enough. Press leaks and dressing room discontent are pretty common when things aren't going well, and it happens to other clubs as well. If the players really wanted to down tools and get rid of them, they could have easily done so at Brentford or Sheffield or numerous other close calls this season before the late comeback. Thats imo.
Unlike under Mourinho and Ole, when Woodward was still active and being nosy, Murtough and Arnold have been more passive and actually empowered ETH.
Yes they couldn't find financial solution to pay off Martial, Maguire contract to push transfer over the line, or incompetent enough by turning down 30mil or so for McTominay... but they clearly follow ETH in every steps from ridding Ronaldo, Henderson, Bailly, DDG... to pay the sizable fee in transfer, and taking scraping the barrel punts on players that unlikely ever being signed during other managers. Prioritizing Onana big money signing when there is no system in place to utilize his true ability; only to neglect an experienced CF signingto back up a very inexperienced player in Hojlund, is ETH responsibility. Signing Mount of all players as our no 8 signing also is another issue. Even us fan see those things coming. How can the manager we train with the team be so blind about these needs?
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"They're running too much. They don't know what they're running for."
When is Old Trafford going to properly turn on this squad? It makes me sick that they used to boo Fellaini simply for being limited. He always gave everything, as should be the minimum. We have players now pottering around the pitch and the fans give them no stick.
When is Old Trafford going to properly turn on this squad? It makes me sick that they used to boo Fellaini simply for being limited. He always gave everything, as should be the minimum. We have players now pottering around the pitch and the fans give them no stick.
Don’t shatter the illusion, they’re angry and they don’t know why.
*Yawn*
Are you saying they aren't in the same squad / dressing room? Do you actually believe the only players that can be a problem are the ones who play for 90 mins twice a week?
Oh, we're at the leaks stage now, I see.
He’s done isn’t he
You aren’t coming back once the players turn. Public spats, shit football and shit signings.
You aren’t coming back once the players turn. Public spats, shit football and shit signings.
While I want ETH gone for the poor tactics and team selections it is extremely worrying to see our players once again complain about intense training sessions. We are bringing some truly pathetic characters to this club who think joining United is some kind of holiday, or a retirement home in the case of our older players.
“Training like a beast”
Sancho definitely gave that line himselfI repeat my previous question: What the feck are you talking about?
The manager has signed a lot of players. Why would ETH signings be influenced by the discontent of players they are replacing and why would they be playing poorly to "hang out" the manager who signed them? Makes no fecking sense. The team and his signings are playing like shit and a lot of players have a problem with him. This points to Ten Hag.The only influential player from the last 4-5 years here, is Rashford. Otherwise, it's not even the same players. No DDG, Pogba, Lingard etc.
But we keep getting rid of the ‘toxic’ players half this squad are ETH signings
It was Lingard then Pogba, I remember some blaming Shaw, who are these toxic players? If it’s Rashford after just been given a 350k a week contract the club deserve everything shit thing that happens to them.
I'm calling it now ten Hag will be fired after another 7-0 at Anfield. There'll be a caretaker who comes in, but no bounce at all.
New guy in the summer, 2-3 signings made very late in the transfer window after we've already chucked away points in the first few games and looked clueless. Rumours that the players remain unconvinced by new managers tactics and training regime and feel he needs to do x y and z instead.
New guy in the summer, 2-3 signings made very late in the transfer window after we've already chucked away points in the first few games and looked clueless. Rumours that the players remain unconvinced by new managers tactics and training regime and feel he needs to do x y and z instead.
Why is it us that had to turn into such a public farce of a club. Fml.
Whether he was good enough in the first place is up for debate, but I see this being the highest level of Ten Hag’s career. Don’t see him recovering. He’ll peak back at Ajax or some second rate German side or something.
Was a really shortsighted move to force a player out like this. Same for Maguire.
Notice how Eddie Howe still kept Jamaal Lascelles as club captain, despite him losing his place. Lascelles comes back in and is completely onside - no issues caused.
Ten Hag embarrasses Maguire by stripping him of the captaincy, tries to force him out and get cant rid. It is lucky that Maguire is profession enough to carry on regardless, a lot of players wouldn't.
This manager has made a lot of dumb decisions and many have backfired. He doesn't have the credit in the bank, nor the status to start playing disciplinarian.
The universe is collecting for 1993-2013
You're just saying sack ETH then because it is ETH reinstate all these players status at different points in time during his one and half season here.
Nobody picked the XI for ETH. He picked those players to start the game in place of his own signings. He abandoned playing principles that got him this job, to fit these players into the current messy system himself.
There is no excuse right now.
After ten years of this bollox, this sounds about right. The endless loop of misery is perpetual.
If - and it's a big if - the INEOS deal actually gets completed, and we sort out our sporting structure, there might be some hope. Outside of that, it's just more blind hope.
Seems that way.
He has lost 50% and signed the other 50%.
It just a shame that of the 50% he signed, 30% are shite!
It just a shame that of the 50% he signed, 30% are shite!
Whether he was good enough or not, I can’t back the players…ever.
It’s becoming more and more obvious exactly who has been behind the series of leaks going back 7/8 years too. Mr PR himself isn’t getting away with this no matter how good the new manager bounce might be.
As for Ten Hag, he’s doomed. Anfield is the place our managers get sacked traditionally, and it’ll be no different this year. If it wasn’t for the financial incentive, I’d call for him to walk before he’s pushed.
It’s becoming more and more obvious exactly who has been behind the series of leaks going back 7/8 years too. Mr PR himself isn’t getting away with this no matter how good the new manager bounce might be.
As for Ten Hag, he’s doomed. Anfield is the place our managers get sacked traditionally, and it’ll be no different this year. If it wasn’t for the financial incentive, I’d call for him to walk before he’s pushed.
I think the writing is on the wall with these leaks this evening.
It also suggests the squad is somewhat divided over the Sancho situation which may have contributed.
It also suggests the squad is somewhat divided over the Sancho situation which may have contributed.
A lot were aggrieved by the treatment of De Gea too. There were leaks when he initially went about him being a big player favourite and the treatment being terrible
Must be destroying all the U15 in training sessions...“Training like a beast”
It's game over for him, you don't recover after reports like that.
I think the turning point for the players must've been when he fell out with Varane
I think the turning point for the players must've been when he fell out with Varane
“Training like a beast”
That’s an amazing line. Reminds me of my favourite line from the last expose when someone said “the lads think Lingard deserves to start”.The writing was on the wall based on results alone. Dressing room was the only thing holding him up.