I'm not really ETH in, but unless the next manager is in line with a long-term strategy and is someone who can handle the expectations at a club of this size I don't think it makes sense to hurry things. I cannot imagine any manager on the planet being successful here without at least half this squad being binned and some professionals being brought in. These are old problems.
I don't think Tuchel, Potter or Southgate are any sort of an answer if the question being asked is who can turn this culture around. And if we go with a less experienced but promising manager he'll need all the help available from the hierarchy in purging this squad.
When people say any other manager in the Prem would be preferable to ETH (which is hyperbole of course) it is the same flawed logic used when saying any player would be preferable to play x, y, z. We're not looking for incremental improvement are we? We're looking for someone (goes for players too) good enough to match the supposed newfound ambitions of the club. So a small improvement means feck all.
We are in the grass is always greener over there period whereby people look at players and managers doing well at clubs not really comparable with the conditions at United and imagine that the qualities of these people will transfer to Old Trafford , just cause stuff.
Some think if fans waved a scarf at ETH, the glazers would act, even though they’ve never listened to United fans on a level about anything.
Some think replacing managers faster would yield greater success because it’s worked for better run clubs. Again, presuming that changing one variable (sacking managers sooner) will somehow compensate for all the other dysfunctional issues of the club that includes players in/out and contract extensions.
At this stage I’m apathetic to whether ETH stays or goes. It really is the smaller picture focusing on him. If INEOs does a competent , proper restructuring of the club and has a good long term plan (that may mean a year or two of erratic stuff) then that’s all that matters.
If that means keeping ETH or even hiring Potter or even Southgate (neither of which I want) , with some long term goal (even using them as interims of sorts), then I’d prefer that then some stop gap Tuchel appointment.
We want to get to the point that we can make Tuchel 2 year’s appointments, but I’d be thinking he’s the guy we get after a year or two of purging players and the last remnants of the glazers mess.
Do we have to write off two seasons ? No, we don’t and it may be possible to cobble together something ok, but if we look at Liverpool and arsenal (among others), they didn’t just hire Arteta and Klopp and it all went great. Fans need to accept that there is gonna be mistakes made and maybe even the wrong appointment (whether keeping ETH or replacing him with a bad alternative).
We are here because of the glazers, not SJR. A lot of money needs to be spent and a lot of work needs to be done to undo the damage. So fans shouldn’t judge things over next year or so as “200 million spent and this is what he get”. We aren’t a top club that has a top club record , we have been muck. It’s gonna take time to get us back to the levels where we can fairly he compared with clubs at the top table.
I don't know if you're remembering it wrong, or choosing to because it fits your argument, but those comments from Jose absolutely turned a huge amount of the fanbase against him. He was rightfully up against it afterwards, as it was classic Jose looking after Jose.