He's saying someone needs to come and take control.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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It totally makes it different in a traditional 2 horse league though, you must see that?
We have to get past 2 teams at their absolute peak, a Chelsea giant, and then teams that may or may not turn it on for the occasional year like the North London chuckle brothers.
Seems even Fergie is admitting it's a rudderless ship. Good.
The likelihood of a large number of signings hitting the ground running in the PL is slim, particularly if they are coming from outside the PL. With our track record of scouting and recruitment, even slimmer.
It's not impossible but we'd have to get summer recruitment spot on.
I wouldn't say we'd be 'happy' with a 5th or 6th finish, but if there are significant good signs with a real reason to believe that things will continue to improve I think we should be ok with it. Klopp's first season is the obvious comparison there, as they finished 8th but everything was pointing to them being on the way up.
Who is the guy in the middle, big Utd fan, keep the faith.
After a certain event 20 years ago, I’d have thought Fergie would have had a disdain of all Irish horse breeders and never wanted to work with them again 
Also I laughed at how the first 15 seconds of that video he’s visibly disgusted that he’s been pushed into doing media stuff. I guess people never change even if retirement. That fecking death stare at 7-8 second mark is great like ‘yer deed to me ye wee bastard’
Also I laughed at how the first 15 seconds of that video he’s visibly disgusted that he’s been pushed into doing media stuff. I guess people never change even if retirement. That fecking death stare at 7-8 second mark is great like ‘yer deed to me ye wee bastard’
Nope and he didnt look very happy talking about it either.
Thought that was a great comment from him actually - I think he’s alluding to the real problems at the club. If ten Hag has got the board to agree that it’s my way or no way then that’s a step in the right direction.
Christ, lads, he’s in his 80s and was put on the spot. It took him about ten seconds to realise who Erik even was. Stop reading too much into it.
I miss him.
Your username and this post goes so well. BUZZKILLINGTON.
If you can’t see what we have done differently since sacking Ole all the way through appointing Ten Hag then I don’t know what to say. I’m not saying it’s going to be great overnight but this negativity won’t help either.
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It sounds good to me. Ferguson will have forgotten more about management than most people learn in a lifetime. He knows it’s all about control. ETH is going to have to exert his authority on this squad, we all know how bad the culture is there currently so we know how difficult that is likely to be but having someone like Sir Alex in the background can only help him gain that authority - I’ve got zero doubt that he will be quick to share his opinion that ETH needs total backing over the players. Any that question his authority should be out
Yeah I'd say neither really qualify from the 5 or 6 Ajax games I've seen. Alvarez shields the defence not unlike a Fabinho/N'Didi type and Gravenberch looks to dribble and create from the left-center of what is often a midfield diamond with Mazraoui coming from RB to a sort of RCM role with Antony super-widest stretching the touchline, and Berghuis as sort of a #10.
Blind and Timber do a lot of passing in the buildup, also in a sort of diamond with Lisandro at the base and Edson at the top of it. Mazraoui has 2 roles basically, RB and RCM and switches between both, sort of like Alexander-Arnold does, but they don't play someone like Henderson to cover him, Timber just sort of also does 2 roles (RCB and RB) depending on the phase of play.
And they move the ball forward quite often by getting it out wide to Antony, who is happy to come deep and beat his man at the half-way line to start attacks against a team sitting deeper.
Why?
Its just a sentence, no point in making huge conclusions from that.
Anyway looking good our Fergie. Not having listening as much as when he was our manager I barely understand him again.
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You can see the words "feck off leave me alone" all over Fergies face at 7 seconds
Didnt want to be asked anything about football clearly. Get the impression he doesn't know too much about ten Hag either.
No shit but who's going to tell that to some of our deluded fans who think our players need proper motivation before they turn into world beaters.
Unpopular opinion, but some here were/are dwelling on the idea that once Pep and Klopp leave the league, it would become okay again to rise to the top and run for titles - that's exactly opposite to what I want. I want Klopp and Pep to have their teams on the absolute top level and I want us with ETH to rise beside them with our own style and beliefs and fecking snatch that title out of their hands.
Not to mention they might be replaced by equally good managers.
It's not going to happen I don't think - not for both teams at least. We'll take our time to improve and by then, I can see them both dropping off a level or three. City can probably sustain being at a really high level given their wealth but I can see Liverpool dropping a fair bit. I mean, they could continue being the best sides around, but by then time we get our act together (whether under ETH or someone else), the landscape will probably be different. Hopefully Liverpool haven't pulled away from us when it comes to PL titles.
Sounds like he’s well aware of the player power issues and acknowledges the need to fix them. Which is surely a good thing?
Who even knows if Klopp and Guardiola might just naturally regress over time or just someone better comes along? I remember thinking back in 2006 that Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea was an unstoppable force and would dominate football, especially when they obtained Shevchenko and Ballack back then.
New ways of playing are introduced. Other teams are hungrier. New players and managers enter the fray, and suddenly Klopp Liverpool and Guardiola City look dated and over the hill. Their players are then the ones who get spanked by the usually younger, hungrier team on the way up. I’ve seen United been both the tired, old warhorse and the energetic, young stallion in those situations.
Cycles in football and all that.
New ways of playing are introduced. Other teams are hungrier. New players and managers enter the fray, and suddenly Klopp Liverpool and Guardiola City look dated and over the hill. Their players are then the ones who get spanked by the usually younger, hungrier team on the way up. I’ve seen United been both the tired, old warhorse and the energetic, young stallion in those situations.
Cycles in football and all that.
Honestly people are overthinkig this, i doubt Fergie follows football that much anymore , especially after his heart attack.
He just gave the most appropriate answer he could think off, get in control (what every manager must do) that's it really.
He just gave the most appropriate answer he could think off, get in control (what every manager must do) that's it really.
Absolutely, that victory would be sweeter, If it takes 2 years, 3 years to arrive at that level, I am willing to wait. We should keep showing continuous progress and then win the title whilst Pep and Klopp being in the league. I want us to rise back up properly this time
We have some players that just need good coaching to get them back to a good level. Sancho, Bruno (if made to stick to a game plan would be a very good player), Rashford (isn’t as shit as he is now, he can again be very good), Shaw (how good he was last season, he can be again), Varane, Fred, VDB.
I want ten Hag to come in and make brave decisions, do whatever it takes to take us back to the top. I want us to win the league while klopp and guardiola are still in the league though. Like fergie knocked Liverpool of there perch, I want ten Hag to come in and storm the premier league, make us compete and begin a new 3 way rivalry… ten Hag vs klopp vs guardiola. That would make a very interesting season.
yeah agree with this
we don’t need them to be world beaters we just need them to return to their previous level
If ETH can get three or four guys currently giving 5/6 out of 10 performances back to 7/8 out of 10, that will be a great result
add in 3/4 new signings, and one or two from the academy, and we’re heading in the right direction
I'd just like to see obvious signs of a move in the right direction next season.
This.
All this we want to win while Klopp or Pep are there is wishful thinking. We have ALOT of slow progress to make to get to an excellent level let alone theirs.
True, if we get on their level we’ll be competing for CLs which is what every United fan wants deep down.
I wonder if we'll force players on him. I'm fairly sure the club won't let the starting youth record slide so we'll need at least one in the team.
None of them are particularly great right now is the issue.
None of them are particularly great right now is the issue.
I dont see this happening.
We are in a new era, so we really cannot compare to how things were from Ferguson to November 2021. New CEO, Director of Football, Head of Analytics, new recruitment head is pending too. Structurally there has been a radical change in every role above the manager (bar Matt Judge I guess, but I don't think he has influence outside of negotiating the deals he's told to work on). So what ETH will / will not be lumbered with by way of obligation for xyz is up in the air.
Given the moves we've made, I strongly doubt there will be a push on him to play certain players.
If we can get 5/6 players in who hit the ground running, and get the others playing well every game. Then I would expect a top 4 finish. Most fans will expect this anyway.
The only thing I'm expecting next season is a defined style of play.
That's the only thing I want to see after 10 years of BS football. Lets develop this one first.
That's the only thing I want to see after 10 years of BS football. Lets develop this one first.
Does anyone know of any books on Mr Hag that I might be able to get my teeth into?
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