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Sack him and bring back The chosen one.
It's the most annoying thing. I like ETH and want him to stay but we already have people saying "wouldn't be surprised he walks". As if he's somehow above all this and as if he would actually do that in a million years.I hope people stop forming cult like followings around managers
I'm not saying we should sack him. I'm saying that with a proper structure, we can absolutely succeed whilst sacking managers frequently, as every top club does nowadays.But why sack a guy who’s trying to bring that in and is hamstrung by dickheads the previous managers wanted?
Sacking the manager is pointless unless you have someone you think can come in and make both an immediate impact, but also keep the team on an upward trajectory in the long term. EtH did that when he arrived, and it's really hard to judge at the moment because of how many injuries and off field issues there are.I like Ole and I like ETH. But, for me, Ole was terrible, and ETH was pretty decent last season. This season, there are very worrying signs for ETH so let's just see how it plays out.
My issue is with the fan boys who paint Jose and Ole's tenures in a positive light and are fecking relentless about it, too.
Nah you can't blame personnel here. He put Eriksen in a role where he had to cover massive amounts of space, constantly. We all know his limitations, and he put him in a role that highlighted them. It's shit coaching. It's shit tactics. This is what he used to be good at. If he can't do that here, then replace before it's too late.Bolded the problem. Our midfield is still after all these years, shite. We expect Eriksen and McTominay to cover anything, two of the most limited players in the league for various reasons.
Mount was a massive mistake I could see costing Ten Hag his job.
I agree but for the time being we seem to be dependant on managers bringing the structure then sack them when the players don’t like it anymoreI'm not saying we should sack him. I'm saying that with a proper structure, we can absolutely succeed whilst sacking managers frequently, as every top club does nowadays.
Ha ha - Who do we get in after the Naggelsman project?Its so tiring going through this boom bust cycle. Naggelsman 100% if he's game.
Thank god i wasn't the only one to noticeIt's the most annoying thing. I like ETH and want him to stay but we already have people saying "wouldn't be surprised he walks". As if he's somehow above all this and as if he would actually do that in a million years.
People have asked this question about 4 different managers. Do you think all 4 of them have failed to mention to him that he's supposed to look for passes sometimes and put effort in defensively?Rashford… where is the coaching? He is reverting back to the Rashford of 2 years ago. Running too much with the ball and turning hood positions into wasted opportunities. hooting when he should be passing/crossing it low etc.
Second this. Bayern was raving mad to sack him when they did.Sack him and bring in Nagelsmann as long as he is available
Not when we signed him so in that sense de Zerbi is different.De Zerbi has but but ETH hasn't?
No they are not, they are absolutely clueless and cannot depend on one of the best managers of all times to bail them out.Yes. THey were the CLub owners at that time. They're functioning similar to now.
AgreeI hope he sticks this out too, he has just had too much to deal with at United in such a short space of time, and has been deceived like the rest of us over the takever.
If this continues I honestly would be surprised if he walked away.
We are the slayer of too many managers and players for this to not be been casued by other factors going on a the club.
Who has been mediocre so far, yeah great ideaNag Nag Nagelsmann
It's time for the Nagelsmann
I think it's becoming clear that we don't have the financial structure in terms of selling and buying the right players to entertain ideologues. It requires a substantial turnover in players to work and we just don't seem able or willing to do that. What we need are managers who have a reputation for taking the hand they are dealt and making it work, while slowly tweaking it into a better side.Be serious for once: Who else would you hire as a replacement? And would you trust this ownership to do the right thing and find the right man?
We have a family of Dan Snyders at the top of the pyramid. They are the ones who deserve the axe first.
They did enjoy themselves last season. I actually think off field situations and how it is affecting the dressing room and who is loyal to whom is causing issues.I’m not overly worried about where we finish or anything. However, if we don’t start seeing a team enjoying their football and playing for each other then I’d have a hard time keeping Ten Hag.
Every team in the league seems to have more fun than we do. Our wins are undeserved or hard fought. Our defeats veer between chastening and embarrassing.
Maybe all the bad ones post here!1.1 billion fans. All can’t be good.
This De Zerbi stuff is so tedious. He's proven pedigree with taking a good Brighton team with great togetherness, and a great footballing structure above him, and improving them, just like Potter before him, in a relatively low expectation environment. He doesn't have any proven pedigree dealing with the egos he'd run into at United, a huge club with poor (but improving with EtH) standards and a poor footballing structure above him, in one of the highest pressure jobs in the world.De Zerbi has proven his pedigree in the PL so unless ETH turn things around, which I don't believe, we should target him. Too early to sack anyone now, but we have started the season poorly. Stay away from arrogant Dutch coaches (apparently the system worked today). Unless ETH can get his CM to work he will be gone by Christmas.
This. We were good vs Arsenal and Erik spoke about that game for two weeks how we looked good, should have won etc...No idea why we changed the system when we were ok with it against Arsenal. It’s not right for us and we need to go back to what we usually play.
Not sure I agree that he’s a terrible coach. Everybody here was doing cartwheels when we got him.Ten Hag doesn't deserve to be that one. He's a terrible coach.
I get behind the club, not the manager. He's a disposable employee.Not sure I agree that he’s a terrible coach. Everybody here was doing cartwheels when we got him.
Now he’s here and we need to get behind him. We could’ve sacked him at full time today, announced De Zerbi as his replacement and nothing would change. Our issues go beyond who’s sat in the dugout.
Start of the end for him today. Getting beaten by Brighton is no biggie in the current climate, but getting tactically outclassed for 70% of a game at home, by a side that cost the same as Sancho’s dental work is not acceptable.
He has done little to give us hope since the League cup final and I don’t see us getting in the top 8 this season.
In game management is a bad as we’ve had for some time. Very predictable.
In February we were the most in form team in Europe. But nooo. EtH must goNot sure I agree that he’s a terrible coach. Everybody here was doing cartwheels when we got him.
Now he’s here and we need to get behind him. We could’ve sacked him at full time today, announced De Zerbi as his replacement and nothing would change. Our issues go beyond who’s sat in the dugout.